anyone notice...lack in d-line penatration?

[joseephuss]

Well, we had been confusing the offense until zimmy went WUSS again...

Our nickle 4 man front played almost the whole 4th 1/4...Thats when pressure stopped, thats when they knew exactly who was coming...Thats when Ware stopped getting near the QB because he was forced to go up against a OT like Samuels...

Thats where we lost the game...

How about Zimmer knew exactly what Washington was going to do and that was throw deep. It was a good scheme for stopping the quick TD. Set your linebackers deeper off the LOS and have them drop to cover the intermediate routes, have corners on the receivers and your safeties playing way back and taking the deep half zones. The players have to go out there and execute and they didn't.

What would people be saying if Dallas blitzed, but didn't get there and Moss was running 5 yards past Glenn in single coverage? This wasn't a complicated situation for Aarron or Roy and neither did their job.

Roy is a safety. He is going to draw tougher assignments in the passing game than just playing a deep half zone. He has to be able to execute. If he can't, then he is a liability. I think he will learn from this. At least I am hoping he can and will.

 

[sago1]

I've noticed that we to consistently generate QB pressure. We only had 2 against the Chargers but did improve to 5 against the Skins. I'm hoping we our LBs became more familiar with the 3-4 and our rookies more comfortable in their roles both at LB and DL our QB pressure will substantially increase. I'm very concerned how we remain venerable against the pass; our LBs and safeties seem to give up too many passes. I didn't hear Fujita's (sp ?) named called against the Skins; did he not play? Hopefully he can add more to our outside rush and run defense. Also concerned about safety performance. RW not good against pass but how far along is Davis or will we need to add a legit FS next year.

 

[dfense]

5 sacks, they pressured pretty good until Dallas went prevent

 

[Alexander]

Who cares who gets the sacks. It doesn't always show up in the numbers who is creating the pressure around the QB which flushes him into getting sacked by other teammates.

We have 7 sacks in 2 games, that tells me we are on the right track so far.

Tell me about it.

We finally have a pass rush, now it is still not good enough.

I don't care where it comes from. But we are getting it.

 

[DC Cowboy]

Someone needs to learn a little about the 3-4: THE DL DOES NOT GET SACKS. THAT IS NOT THEIR PRIMARY JOB-THEY ARE TO OCCUPY THE O LINE TO FREE THE LB's.
Now in the 4-3 it IS the DL main job to get sacks. CLEAR?

THANK YOU :bang2:

 

[Nors]

3-4 Dline not expected to geta lot of sacks.
If Canty, Spears, Ellis can get 5-7 each that is gravy.

Its the LB's and Safeties that will wreak havoc.

Also note that 3 of the 5 sacks last week were 3rd and Long. Defense doing a good job containing run and pushing offense backwards!

 

[Nors]

The 2 Washington TD's were against base 4-3 cover 2 and NO BLITZ.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

What everyone fails to understand is that the days of a 4-man line (4 DL or 3 DL and 1 LB) creating pressure on every single passing down are long-gone. Between rules changes and growth of the west coast offense the ability to create consistent pressure with just 4 players is virtually gone. Outside of the '77 Cowboys or the '85 Bears or the Eagles fine front 4 of the late 80's and early 90's teams can not consistenly apply pressure with just 4.

 

[joseephuss]

The 2 Washington TD's were against base 4-3 cover 2 and NO BLITZ.

No, they were againt the nickel defense with no blitz. With Ware in the game at the time, does it matter if he is considered a RDE or an OLB? I think he is just considered a pass rusher in that situation.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The 2 Washington TD's were against base 4-3 cover 2 and NO BLITZ.

Nors, we weren't running a cover 2 on those two TD's-- just so you know.

 

[junk]

Nors, we weren't running a cover 2 on those two TD's-- just so you know.

Or a 4-3. I don't think he really even understands defenses.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Or a 4-3. I don't think he really even understands defenses.

Yes folks. We have ourselves a winner.

 

[Compacity]

The two touchdowns on the Cowboys was result of two things:

Pressure- it seems like the D-Line just couldn't get in the line to get a pass-rush...

Coverage- Now, Roy Williams came down to cover Santana Moss and that is Aaron Glenn job, not Roy Williams he suppose to make sure that Santana Moss don't get into the end zone...

Cowboys didn't change much in coverage scheme: Bend but don't break...

and The Cowboys lost the game for four reasons...::

Coverage
Coaching
Lack Of Pass-Rush
A whole lot of underthrown balls

 

[joseephuss]

The two touchdowns on the Cowboys was result of two things:

Pressure- it seems like the D-Line just couldn't get in the line to get a pass-rush...

Coverage- Now, Roy Williams came down to cover Santana Moss and that is Aaron Glenn job, not Roy Williams he suppose to make sure that Santana Moss don't get into the end zone...

Cowboys didn't change much in coverage scheme: Bend but don't break...

and The Cowboys lost the game for four reasons...::

Coverage
Coaching
Lack Of Pass-Rush
A whole lot of underthrown balls

I would say they did "break". If the defense did just "bend" in the 4th quarter, the Commanders would not have scored so quickly.

 

[sacase]

The two touchdowns on the Cowboys was result of two things:

Pressure- it seems like the D-Line just couldn't get in the line to get a pass-rush...

Coverage- Now, Roy Williams came down to cover Santana Moss and that is Aaron Glenn job, not Roy Williams he suppose to make sure that Santana Moss don't get into the end zone...

Cowboys didn't change much in coverage scheme: Bend but don't break...

and The Cowboys lost the game for four reasons...::

Coverage
Coaching
Lack Of Pass-Rush
A whole lot of underthrown balls

I only saw two underthrown balls, so that makes a couple.

 

[baj1dallas]

What everyone fails to understand is that the days of a 4-man line (4 DL or 3 DL and 1 LB) creating pressure on every single passing down are long-gone. Between rules changes and growth of the west coast offense the ability to create consistent pressure with just 4 players is virtually gone. Outside of the '77 Cowboys or the '85 Bears or the Eagles fine front 4 of the late 80's and early 90's teams can not consistenly apply pressure with just 4.

If Tampa Bay's statistics bear that out, I'll agree with you.