Anyone oppose signing JPP in offseason?

SDCowboy · Nov 29, 2016

At this point, I'm not opposed to bringing in anyone who would help our pathetic, non-existent pass rush.

MarionBarberThe4th · Nov 29, 2016

I'd have to look at the contract I wouldn't sign him for more than 7 digits tho

Setackin · Nov 29, 2016

DallasDW00ds0n said:
Dallas needs to draft a DE round 1

Round 1 2 and 3 lol need make sure they hit on something lol

skinsscalper · Nov 29, 2016

Nope. I prefer players on the upswing of their careers, not the downswing.

If it were a reasonable deal, then you have to look but JPP is looking to get paid after playing on the franchise tag.

fishspill · Nov 29, 2016

Maybe. What's the contract? The vets I want to see brought in are AD and DeSean Jackson. I figure they might not break the bank to join this team.

conner01 · Nov 29, 2016

Supercowboy1986 said:
Jpp without a doubt would be an upgrade but I'm not sure the $$$ would be right.

He's shown in the past he will play hardball when it comes to negotiating salary terms.

That worked out short term for him. Made nearly 25 mil over the last two years but don't know that he has helped his long term value. Teams know he played hardball and they know he hasn't been what he was expected to be.

Idgit · Nov 29, 2016

It all depends on the money, but I'd be for taking a look at ol' Ginger Root if he's on the market, sure.

Maxmadden · Nov 29, 2016

5 1/2 of his sacks came from playing two teams, the Browns and Bears.

So he has a whopping 1 1/2 sacks in the other 9 games.

Dale · Nov 29, 2016

Craig said:
A 10 sack pace is not lighting it up? Hes on pace for a pretty great season.

For us? At this point, might as well start building the bust if someone had 10 sacks here.

But realistically speaking, her ranks 17th in the league in sacks at the moment. It's a fine season, and he's a fine player. But wouldn't we have to pay an enormous contract to land him in free agency?

That's the buzzkill for me. It's so difficult for the production to ever match the contract, and it becomes an albatross hanging around your neck for years to come.

Craig · Nov 29, 2016

fishspill said:
Maybe. What's the contract? The vets I want to see brought in are AD and DeSean Jackson. I figure they might not break the bank to join this team.

Dislike.

GoJacks · Nov 29, 2016

MarionBarberThe4th said:
I'd have to look at the contract I wouldn't sign him for more than 7 digits tho

You're on fire! (works)

bb721 · Nov 29, 2016

skinsscalper said:
JPP is looking to get paid after playing on the franchise tag.

He's not playing on the franchise tag. He's got a one year contract with a max value of $10.5M if he reaches his incentives.

xwalker · Nov 29, 2016

juck said:
This guy is at a decent age and has reborn his career. He is a total beast to handle on the outside. Something we sorely miss.

When looking at free agents, there needs to be a reason that their current team will be unlikely to re-sign them; otherwise you'll have to way overpay for them to get them away from their current team. The reason could be lack of cap space, scheme change and/or coaching staff change or some personal issue between the player and team/coach or the team could have stocked up on high draft picks at that position in recent years..

It appears that the Giants still have plenty of cap space for the future years. They do have 2015 third round pick Owa Odighizuwa, but it does not appear they have much quality depth at DE.

The best DE is probably Chandler Jones, but AZ does not appear to have cap problems or a premium young replacement and could franchise him. He is 26, has 8 sacks and 12.5 sacks last season. He is playing as a 3-4 OLB but has plenty of size to play 4-3 DE.

I wonder if Nick Perry (Packers) would be better in a 4-3. The Packers often don't bid to keep their free agents like other teams would. Perry (6-3, 265, age 26) has 8 sacks this season.

The Packers also have Datone Jones who is listed as an OLB but IIRC has played some DE in their 3-4. He is not as accomplished as Perry but also might be better in a 4-3 (6-4, 280); although, he is likely a SDE which the Cowboys don't need nearly as much as they need a WDE. Lawrence could move back to SDE if they had a legit WDE (RDE).

Free Agents:
http://overthecap.com/free-agency/

http://overthecap.com/free-agency/

CanadianCowboysFan · Nov 29, 2016

illhurtya said:
I'd give Jerry a high 3 for a signing like that.

I see what you did there

skinsscalper · Nov 29, 2016

bb721 said:
He's not playing on the franchise tag. He's got a one year contract with a max value of $10.5M if he reaches his incentives.

Was it last year that he played on the tag?

bb721 · Nov 29, 2016

skinsscalper said:
Was it last year that he played on the tag?

Yes. He didn't sign it before the deadline for it to be fully guaranteed for $14.8M so he only received a prorated portion of the salary based upon the number of games played after he came back from the injury.

skinsscalper · Nov 29, 2016

bb721 said:
Yes. He didn't sign it before the deadline for it to be fully guaranteed for $14.8M so he only received a prorated portion of the salary based upon the number of games played after he came back from the injury.

Ah, Gotcha. Thanks for the correction.

YosemiteSam · Nov 29, 2016

DallasDW00ds0n said:
Dallas needs to draft a DE round 1

Free is also getting long in the tooth. I'm not convinced Collins will ever play tackle in the at a high level and Chaz is another question mark.

You're right though. Dallas seriously needs to start addressing the DL.

JohnnyTheFox · Nov 30, 2016

Wonder if we can get him for a 5 finger discount.

haleyrules · Nov 30, 2016

xwalker said:
When looking at free agents, there needs to be a reason that their current team will be unlikely to re-sign them; otherwise you'll have to way overpay for them to get them away from their current team. The reason could be lack of cap space, scheme change and/or coaching staff change or some personal issue between the player and team/coach or the team could have stocked up on high draft picks at that position in recent years..

It appears that the Giants still have plenty of cap space for the future years. They do have 2015 third round pick Owa Odighizuwa, but it does not appear they have much quality depth at DE.

The best DE is probably Chandler Jones, but AZ does not appear to have cap problems or a premium young replacement and could franchise him. He is 26, has 8 sacks and 12.5 sacks last season. He is playing as a 3-4 OLB but has plenty of size to play 4-3 DE.

I wonder if Nick Perry (Packers) would be better in a 4-3. The Packers often don't bid to keep their free agents like other teams would. Perry (6-3, 265, age 26) has 8 sacks this season.

The Packers also have Datone Jones who is listed as an OLB but IIRC has played some DE in their 3-4. He is not as accomplished as Perry but also might be better in a 4-3 (6-4, 280); although, he is likely a SDE which the Cowboys don't need nearly as much as they need a WDE. Lawrence could move back to SDE if they had a legit WDE (RDE).

Free Agents:
http://overthecap.com/free-agency/

http://overthecap.com/free-agency/

Interesting. Nick Perry, young and certainly a possibility considering the way the Packers handle FA's.

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