Anyway you slice it,the season has been a success

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wileedog said:
If you want to be technical about it, I blame Bill far more for basically standing pat in the 2004 offseason then anything he did or didn't do this season. I think that is what put us a year behind "schedule".
great point, and I agree. besides the draft, we basically added nothing to the team. One more year and we will make it to the playoffs and have a better OL and kicker. If we dont fix OL and KIcker next year we may miss the playoffs again.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Hahahaha

I need to go see who we could have drafted in 2003, which of course anybody you draft is not a sure thing.

Man, I think all of us would be excited having a young QB in his early 20s saddling up for his 4th season in 2006.

Bledsoe has been a great and pleasant surprise...but seriously...can anybody look at themselve in the mirror with a straight face and say they rather miss the playoffs with wiley Vets and win 10 games...as opposed to stockpiling talent, playing a young QB and missing the playoffs...because we are missing them anyway.

Quite simply put, if Bill gets us in the Tourny, he will be God...if not...it's time to break out...

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I think he is building this team for the future as well as trying to win today. I think Bill's rebuilding has centered around the defense and we will see more work done on the offense in this coming offseason. As for playing a vet QB I have no problem with that I would much rather put a young QB on an established team than to throw him out there just for the sake of playing time.
 

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As for playing a vet QB I have no problem with that I would much rather put a young QB on an established team than to throw him out there just for the sake of playing time.

I agree. I think a young QB develops faster and better with solid pieces around him.

4 years later the Texans STILL don't know what they have in Carr.
 

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I agree. I think a young QB develops faster and better with solid pieces around him.

4 years later the Texans STILL don't know what they have in Carr.
what a waste there. They have a solid triplets team going on and they cant really fulfill anything without a good OL.

I still wish we had gotten Leftwich. Bill can make up for it by drafting a young guy this year, and getting Bledsoe to keep his play up until the young guy is ready or until Bledsoe retires. keep henson as 3rd string .
 

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I agree. I think a young QB develops faster and better with solid pieces around him.

4 years later the Texans STILL don't know what they have in Carr.

You got it. What Pitt did with Roethlisberger and to an extent what Cinn did with Palmer was in my opinion a better way to bring up a young QB. Give them a chance by having good players around them.
 

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You got it. What Pitt did with Roethlisberger and to an extent what Cinn did with Palmer was in my opinion a better way to bring up a young QB. Give them a chance by having good players around them.
yep and I think Dallas is the perfect situation for a young QB. good young rb's, good young defense and hopefully some good young OL and wr's to go along with the QB.
 

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Yep. The insistance of whoever it was to go with Hutch and Quincy and heck, I am even going to throw it out there, Romo and Henson is really holding franchise hostage. I really do think Romo and especially Henson are keeping us from drafting a guy that is devoted to football and played it at high level in college with no baseball vacation in-between.

This offseason will tell us what Bill thinks about Henson.

If he's not sold on him we will make a move for a young QB. Bill doesn't carry guys on the roster just for the heck of it, and Bill himself has said he's not settled on the QB situation long-term.

Just a hunch, but I think if Henson gets sent to Europe then he's on the Hutch Express out of town. If not and Bill wants to keep him in town to work with him, then he still feels there is potential there IMO.

Romo is probably a career backup, but those aren't bad things to have either.

"Get your expectations up"...well Big Bill I did, I have seen this team not make the playoffs, that's nothing new...I want to see the old dog do a new trick...make the playoffs and be competitive while doing it.

Mine are up for another solid offseason, some long-term fixes to the O-line, a successor for Glenn at WR, a bookend opposite Ware or an impact MLB, a real FS, and a solid playoff run next year.

All of which I think is doable.
 

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Hiero said:
yep and I think Dallas is the perfect situation for a young QB. good young rb's, good young defense and hopefully some good young OL and wr's to go along with the QB.

I would agree that Dallas should look for a young QB (be it in the draft or trade) and have him in place to take over once Bledsoe hangs them up. To this day I think the biggest mistake the Cowboys made was not having a legit QB behind Aikman to take over when the left the game.
 

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Solid Pieces?

Okay, you have one of the best possesion receivers in football that will do wonders for a QB.

You have one of the best Tight Ends in the NFC on your squad.

You have a nice duo of Running backs, Barber and Jones.

The offensive line is shakey, but hey, if Bledsoe can survive it anyone can.

You have a very strong Defense that can at least help a young QB out when he makes a mistake on offense.

And the biggest reason why Dallas is perfect, is that you have a COMPOTENT head coach who knows how to manage and handle things. Also, Parcells has been playing it close to the vest since he has been in Dallas, this philosophiy is perfect for a young buck.

To me this is a perfect situation.

Im all for Drew Bledsoe. But...if we are going to miss the playoffs, I would rather have a youngin in there.
 

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Solid Pieces?

Okay, you have one of the best possesion receivers in football that will do wonders for a QB.

You have one of the best Tight Ends in the NFC on your squad.

You have a nice duo of Running backs, Barber and Jones.

The offensive line is shakey, but hey, if Bledsoe can survive it anyone can.

You have a very strong Defense that can at least help a young QB out when he makes a mistake on offense.

And the biggest reason why Dallas is perfect, is that you have a COMPOTENT head coach who knows how to manage and handle things. Also, Parcells has been playing it close to the vest since he has been in Dallas, this philosophiy is perfect for a young buck.

To me this is a perfect situation.

Im all for Drew Bledsoe. But...if we are going to miss the playoffs, I would rather have a youngin in there.

I agree I think its pretty good now, provided the line gets fixed.

But I don't think Henson showed in pre-season he was ready to take over.

You're probably right, its time to s*** or get off the pot with Henson this offseason. It will be very interesting given Bill's comments to see which way we go.

Bledsoe earned the job for next year and hopefully we will be primed for a serious run. But in 2007 I'm all aboard the give it to a youngin bandwagon, whoever it is.
 

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I agree I think its pretty good now, provided the line gets fixed.

But I don't think Henson showed in pre-season he was ready to take over.

You're probably right, its time to s*** or get off the pot with Henson this offseason. It will be very interesting given Bill's comments to see which way we go.

Bledsoe earned the job for next year and hopefully we will be primed for a serious run. But in 2007 I'm all aboard the give it to a youngin bandwagon, whoever it is.

Hahaha

Sounds like you got more patience with Henson then I do.

I wont both he and Mr. Romo gone or either it be decided they are only here for backup duty and not have this "franchise QB" aura hanging over everyone's head.

I want to draft a QB bad as heck but it aint happening.

Unfortunately, I think a Linebacker will be picked in the 1st but I think a QB and/or a OT is more pressing...dunno.
 

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The "old" rap on Bledsoe doesn't ring that true to me ... he's not one of those QB's whose game would change alot over time (read: Vick). We see guys like that resurrect careers very often in situations where they're just asked to manage games. The only times I've really seen Bledsoe as a prime reason they've lost games was the late Seattle int. (and I think we should reserve fault for the defense giving up the late drive) and holding the ball entirely too long in the second Washington game (did anyone play well that game?). On the other hand, you've got games where he's been crucial to winning (San Diego, Carolina). All told, I think he's been on the happy side of the expectations ... this isn't the kind of team that needs a young-gun (look how Eli's "growing" has changed NY from a possible top-2 seed to a team that may only take the wild card). IMO Dallas should bring in a young guy to the bench for a year or two (Rivers?), but this team is too much of a contender to trust youth right now.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Solid Pieces?

Okay, you have one of the best possesion receivers in football that will do wonders for a QB.

You have one of the best Tight Ends in the NFC on your squad.

You have a nice duo of Running backs, Barber and Jones.

The offensive line is shakey, but hey, if Bledsoe can survive it anyone can.

You have a very strong Defense that can at least help a young QB out when he makes a mistake on offense.

And the biggest reason why Dallas is perfect, is that you have a COMPOTENT head coach who knows how to manage and handle things. Also, Parcells has been playing it close to the vest since he has been in Dallas, this philosophiy is perfect for a young buck.

To me this is a perfect situation.

Im all for Drew Bledsoe. But...if we are going to miss the playoffs, I would rather have a youngin in there.

I think we still have some major issue on the O-line and I'll never be for tanking a season just so a young QB can get playing time and that is exactly what would have happen to this team had Bledsoe not been the starting QB. Neither of our young QB are ready to take over not by a long shot and honestly I don't know if either will ever be the guy who can lead this team. I still have some hope for Henson but would not be willing to put all my eggs in his basket
 

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AllLoyaltiesAside said:
The "old" rap on Bledsoe doesn't ring that true to me ... he's not one of those QB's whose game would change alot over time (read: Vick). We see guys like that resurrect careers very often in situations where they're just asked to manage games. The only times I've really seen Bledsoe as a prime reason they've lost games was the late Seattle int. (and I think we should reserve fault for the defense giving up the late drive) and holding the ball entirely too long in the second Washington game (did anyone play well that game?). On the other hand, you've got games where he's been crucial to winning (San Diego, Carolina). All told, I think he's been on the happy side of the expectations ... this isn't the kind of team that needs a young-gun (look how Eli's "growing" has changed NY from a possible top-2 seed to a team that may only take the wild card). IMO Dallas should bring in a young guy to the bench for a year or two (Rivers?), but this team is too much of a contender to trust youth right now.

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I wouldnt mind that scenario either. Draft a guy like Vince Young or heck, even Matt Lienhart, let him see how it is suppose to be done and start competing in 2007.

The problem is that aint gonna happen. We wont draft a quality first rounder until it is too late :bang2: .
 

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I think we still have some major issue on the O-line and I'll never be for tanking a season just so a young QB can get playing time and that is exactly what would have happen to this team had Bledsoe not been the starting QB. Neither of our young QB are ready to take over not by a long shot and honestly I don't know if either will ever be the guy who can lead this team. I still have some hope for Henson but would not be willing to put all my eggs in his basket

Okay, I am for the "Lebaron to Meredith", "Staubach to White" approach.

But man, it has been like 16 years since we have drafted a guy in the 1st round like all of our rivals and successful franchises seem to be doing.

OLine is a major problem, but I dont think there is a prosition in football that takes priority over the Field General.

We gotta cut our losses with Henson and Romo or start thinking of them as here for backup purposes.

I could never ever be on board with someone I perceive to be using this as a "2nd career".

Jay Cutler, Young, Jacobs, anybody...somebody...just get him in here before Bledsoe is gone, so they can learn how it can be done. Heck, I would even be open to bringing Vinny back as a consultant to work with them full time on how to handle themselves with class and how to be what Landry use to call "A Pro"
 

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Okay, I am for the "Lebaron to Meredith", "Staubach to White" approach.

But man, it has been like 16 years since we have drafted a guy in the 1st round like all of our rivals and successful franchises seem to be doing.

OLine is a major problem, but I dont think there is a prosition in football that takes priority over the Field General.

We gotta cut our losses with Henson and Romo or start thinking of them as here for backup purposes.

I could never ever be on board with someone I have perceive to be using this as a "2nd career".

Jay Cutler, Young, Jacobs, anybody...somebody...just get him in here before Bledsoe is gone, so they can learn how it can be done. Heck, I would even be open to bringing Vinny back as a consultant to work with them full time on how to handle themselves with class and how to be what Landry use to call "A Pro"

I'm not against drafting a QB and having him backup Bledsoe for a year. I also have not given up on Henson but not willing to put all my eggs in his basket. As mentioned in another thread I would not mind seeing Dallas try and make a trade for Matt Schaub
 

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I am of the opinion that both Drew Henson and T Romo should be released. Neither has shown much of anything. Sure Romo has shown more than DH but how hard is that? BP hasn't addressed the qb position because he's being forced to "find out what he has " in Henson. This comes a year after being forced to find out what he had in QC and Hutch. I think that he already knows what he's got in DH but 'ol Jerrah needs to be convinced as well.

- new Dline and LB corps with revamped secondary learning a new system
- new qb for 2nd straight season
- no O-line depth
- unbelievably wack special teams unit

Going into the season with these factors and ending up 10-6 with a chance to go into playoffs and being a team noone will want to face is a success to me.

IMO

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Are the Giants and Commanders better then us? I dont think so and one has a ticket punched and the other still has it's destiny in his hand.

- Mike G.

Hmm one of these teams you lost to twice this yr and you think the Boys are better than the skins????
 

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I am of the opinion that both Drew Henson and T Romo should be released. Neither has shown much of anything. Sure Romo has shown more than DH but how hard is that? BP hasn't addressed the qb position because he's being forced to "find out what he has " in Henson. This comes a year after being forced to find out what he had in QC and Hutch. I think that he already knows what he's got in DH but 'ol Jerrah needs to be convinced as well.

- new Dline and LB corps with revamped secondary learning a new system
- new qb for 2nd straight season
- no O-line depth
- unbelievably wack special teams unit

Going into the season with these factors and ending up 10-6 with a chance to go into playoffs and being a team noone will want to face is a success to me.

IMO

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IMHO I think this is a growing myth in cowboy nation that Parcells was forced to evaluate Carter and Hutchinson. First off Parcells had all the Leverage when he came to Dallas so nobody was forcing him to do anything. Also we forget Parcells brought Carter back in 04 so he was not forced to keep him, he sure did not have any problem cutting him.

Lets get real and understand Parcells saw something in Carter and wanted him to be the QB for 04 or he would not have brought him back the next year some of you Q haters need to realize this if Q had not run himself out of Dallas he would have started 04 as a QB for the Cowboys.

So your statement that he is being forced to Keep Henson is flat out wrong Parcells knows this is his last go round nobody is forcing him to do anything he does not want to do.
 

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Oh yeah, I guess because we go 10-6 and miss the playoffs its a success because we went 5-11 before. Hey lets keep going 10-6 and missing the playoffs and we can always compare it to the campo years and say well at least we are better than that. mmmmmk. :rolleyes:
You missed the point completely! You want to measure the success of the Cowboys by their record against the Deadskins? Going into the season, I would have traded both Commanders games for a victory over the Iggles. I also didn't write that I would be happy with three consecutive 10-6 seasons with no playoffs. I did write that I am happy with a 10-6 season after a 6-10 record. You can wish for more Campo years, but I am glad that Parcells is our coach.
 
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