AOL Blog: Jimmy Johnson's Draft Chart Is Obsolete

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Posted Apr 19th 2007 7:59AM by Michael David Smith
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By now most NFL fans know about the chart teams use to determine whether to trade draft picks. Jimmy Johnson and his staff came up with the chart when he was coach and general manager of the Cowboys, and it was ingenious: It allowed the Cowboys to quantify something that had previously been mostly guesswork.

But times have changed, the league now has a salary cap, and I think the chart is obsolete. That chart, for instance, says the first pick in the draft is worth three times as much as the 16th pick. That might be true if we don't take the salary cap into consideration, but when you remember how much of a drain on the salary cap the first pick is (Mario Williams signed a six-year, $54 million contract), the first pick isn't worth nearly that much.

There are lots of reports that teams near the top want to trade down (especially the Lions), but that those teams can't find trading partners. That's a sign that NFL teams are starting to realize that trading up isn't worth the cost.

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Value of High Draft Picks Can Be Misleading

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By MICHAEL DAVID SMITH
April 19, 2007

When Jimmy Johnson became coach and general manager of the Dallas Cowboys in 1989, he knew he wanted to build his team by trading for as many draft picks as he could acquire. But he lacked a method for assessing whether he was getting a fair deal when he traded draft choices: Is one first-round pick more valuable than two second-round picks?

So Johnson and his staff devised a chart that assigned a point value to each pick, with the first pick worth 3,000 points, the second pick worth 2,600 points and so on, all the way down to seventh-round picks worth just a point or two. With that chart guiding their decisions, the Cowboys would only agree to trades that gave them a positive point total.

The chart worked: The Cowboys usually fleeced opposing teams in trades, and they used the draft to build a team that won three Super Bowls.

The NFL is nothing if not a copycat league, and other teams soon hired Dallas scouts and assistant coaches to try to emulate the Cowboys' success. Soon the entire league used that chart to guide draft decisions. It's been almost 20 years since Johnson took over in Dallas, but when the NFL draft takes place on April 28, general managers will still consult Johnson's chart when considering whether to trade draft picks.

But the chart has a fundamental flaw: It was devised before the NFL had a salary cap. In 1989, NFL teams could pay their players as much as they wanted, but today every team has a maximum payroll of $109 million. And so instead of using the draft just to acquire good players, now teams also have to consider whether the players they draft are worth the salary cap space they'll occupy.

That consideration is especially important because the first few players drafted instantly become among the highest-paid players in the league. When the NFL slices up the salary pie, the portion it gives to highly drafted rookies is huge. As the first pick in last year's draft, Mario Williams received a six-year, $54 million contract with the Houston Texans.

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When bad teams like the Texans devote significant resources to unproven players like Williams, it defeats the whole purpose of having a draft: The draft is supposed to level the playing field by giving the worst teams first dibs on the best players, but the combination of the salary cap and inflated contracts for high draft picks means those high picks drag the worst franchises down even further if they don't choose wisely. Many NFL general managers wish the league would limit rookies to short-term contracts worth significantly less money than the top veterans make, like the NBA does.

The Oakland Raiders own the first pick in this year's draft, and the player they take will get a contract guaranteeing him about $30 million. Johnson's chart says the Raiders' first-round pick should be worth several later picks in a trade, but that's not necessarily true: Teams that are conscious of their salary cap status wouldn't want to trade up to the Raiders' pick and assume the cost of having to pay the salary of the first pick in the draft.

In recent years, when teams have traded draft picks, the team that moved up usually got the worse end of the deal. Look no further than the Giants, who acquired quarterback Eli Manning, the first pick in 2004, in a draft-day trade with the San Diego Chargers. It's too early to say whether Manning will ever become the quarterback the Giants thought he would when they gave up their first- and third-round picks that year and their 2005 first- and fifthround picks to acquire him. But it's not too early to say that the Chargers got the better end of the deal.

San Diego wound up with quarterback Philip Rivers as well as two Pro Bowlers in linebacker Shawne Merriman and kicker Nate Kaeding. They used the last of the picks to trade for Roman Oben, an offensive lineman who started 24 games in San Diego. Rivers looks like he'll be at least as good as Manning over the course of their NFL careers, but even if Manning is better than Rivers, he won't be better than all four of the Chargers' players combined.

But the high cost of rookie salaries isn't the reason the Chargers got the better end of their trade with the Giants. After all, Rivers makes almost as much money as Manning. The Chargers came out ahead in that deal because they made such wise use of the extra picks they received from the Giants. If the Chargers hadn't taken a player as good as Merriman (who led the league with 17 sacks last year), that trade wouldn't look so good for them.

Ultimately, Johnson didn't build the Cowboys into three-time Super Bowl champions because of his draft chart. Johnson made the Cowboys the best team in the league because he made smart decisions to draft Hall of Fame players like Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith. Knowing which players will develop into superstars is the real secret to draft success, and that requires the kind of acumen for evaluating talent that no chart can provide.

Mr. Smith is a writer for FootballOutsiders.com.



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"Jimmy Johnson and his staff came up with the chart when he was coach and general manager of the Cowboys"

Jimmy was never the GM of the Cowboys.
 

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I guess the Jerry butt kissers will give credit to Jerry for the chart.:laugh2:
 

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Johnson's chart is till the standard.

Until a 'genius' like Smith can come up with a better guide anyway.......

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SuperCows5Xs;1460886 said:
I guess the Jerry butt kissers will give credit to Jerry for the chart.

Likely. :laugh2:

It's just too bad that none of them were able to roll up in the thread with Jerry-love before you went on some irrelevent-one-track-mind tangent.
 

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superpunk;1460902 said:
Likely. :laugh2:

It's just too bad that none of them were able to roll up in the thread with Jerry-love before you went on some irrelevent-one-track-mind tangent.


Thankyou!:rolleyes:
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1460886 said:
I guess the Jerry butt kissers will give credit to Jerry for the chart.:laugh2:

No "Jimmy Johnson and his staff came up with the chart" notice the staff part. I hate to tell you but Jimmy was not a 1 man show. As for his drafting ability it was very good but started to slide as he became more distant from the college ranks. Heck he drafted 4 to 5 RB with the Dolphins and still never was able to find a decent RB. I like Jimmy but he did not do it alone.
 

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Doomsday101;1460877 said:
"Jimmy Johnson and his staff came up with the chart when he was coach and general manager of the Cowboys"

Jimmy was never the GM of the Cowboys
.

First thing I noticed.

Why can't these guy get their facts right?

It's really not that hard.
 

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Doomsday101;1460916 said:
No "Jimmy Johnson and his staff came up with the chart" notice the staff part. I hate to tell you but Jimmy was not a 1 man show. As for his drafting ability it was very good but started to slide as he became more distant from the college ranks. Heck he drafted 4 to 5 RB with the Dolphins and still never was able to find a decent RB. I like Jimmy but he did not do it alone.

Oh I know, that comment was just for those who think Jerry is a one man show.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1460930 said:
Oh I know, that comment was just for those who think Jerry is a one man show.
And how is that relevant to this thread? Nobody had even weighed in on Jerry or even Jimmy for that matter when you posted your comment.
 

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Jimmys chart is all about talent. It was never intended to calculate the salary cap.

The draft needs ti hurry up and get here ..... these guys are running out of things to write about.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1460930 said:
Oh I know, that comment was just for those who think Jerry is a one man show.

No team worth darn is a 1 man show. As for Jerry he is and has always been a big part of this organization since he took over the team that includes both the good times and bad times.
 

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Doomsday101;1460950 said:
No team worth darn is a 1 man show. As for Jerry he is and has always been a big part of this organization since he took over the team that includes both the good times and bad times.

:starspin:starspin:starspin:starspin:starspin
 

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WoodysGirl;1460933 said:
And how is that relevant to this thread? Nobody had even weighed in on Jerry or even Jimmy for that matter when you posted your comment.


Their lurkin'. Yeah I guess I jumped the gun alittle.:eek::
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1460930 said:
Oh I know, that comment was just for those who think Jerry is a one man show.
Who are these people? Could you point them out to us, so that we may laugh at them for their idiocy?

Or, is it possible that your every post must involve Jerry JOnes in some way, so you've invented some race of buffoons that you must combat, inside your head and exagerated the whole situation?

I ask, because I hate one track mind agenda postings.
 

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superpunk;1460960 said:
Who are these people? Could you point them out to us, so that we may laugh at them for their idiocy?

Or, is it possible that your every post must involve Jerry JOnes in some way, so you've invented some race of buffoons that you must combat, inside your head and exagerated the whole situation?

I ask, because I hate one track mind agenda postings.

Well that settles it...you are a Jerry one man show believer and will burn in one of the 9 circles of hell.
 

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superpunk;1460960 said:
Who are these people? Could you point them out to us, so that we may laugh at them for their idiocy?

Or, is it possible that your every post must involve Jerry JOnes in some way, so you've invented some race of buffoons that you must combat, inside your head and exagerated the whole situation?

I ask, because I hate one track mind agenda postings.


Race??? Why does everything have to be about race???:laugh1: And how dare you call a race, buffoons. That'd be racist.;)
 
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