Apparently Rashard Mendenhall Really Is an Idiot

[Yakuza Rich]

Forgive me all for this question and I do not believe in a conspiracy theory but something has never sat quite right with me on how come the buildings went down and I have not seen it or read it to know so forgive my ignorance... but the little I know of physics says that heat rises and at the level at which the twin towers were struck it doesn't seem to (the eye) have enough mass to collapse the entire building...I would have thought at worse the top floors might burn away (sorta like holding a match up right after the fuel is spent it goes out without consuming the stick) so I never understood how they collapsed ... but I go through life not understanding lots of things I guess... any engineers out there that might have the answer and enlighten the ignorant would be much appreciated.

I can't remember the exact floors the first plane hit. I think it was floors 93-99. The steel becomes comprised because of the heat. But also remember, you have all of the weight on the floors above floor 99 (IIRC, that was the highest floor hit). So those floors collapse on top of the floors hit and everything else falls down with it.

There are many reasons why I think Truthers are wrong on this one...but what gets me is this. Let's say it did happen the way Truthers claim...it would be a gigantic endeavor taking lots of people to get together, coordinate and pull it off.

Yet, not ONE person has ever muttered a word talking about how they were apart of it and how it was done.

That just doesn't happen. Somebody would say something to somebody.






YR

 

[Zaxor]

I can't remember the exact floors the first plane hit. I think it was floors 93-99. The steel becomes comprised because of the heat. But also remember, you have all of the weight on the floors above floor 99 (IIRC, that was the highest floor hit). So those floors collapse on top of the floors hit and everything else falls down with it.

There are many reasons why I think Truthers are wrong on this one...but what gets me is this. Let's say it did happen the way Truthers claim...it would be a gigantic endeavor taking lots of people to get together, coordinate and pull it off.

Yet, not ONE person has ever muttered a word talking about how they were apart of it and how it was done.

That just doesn't happen. Somebody would say something to somebody.






YR

Sorry Rich but first off what is a Truthers

 

[joseephuss]

Once the structure on the floor where the plane hit gave way all the floors above fell and impacted the floor immediately below. That amount of impact loading was more than enough to collapse that floor. It was like dominoes after that. Each successive floor below had to endure the impact of all the floors above crashing into them.

 

[Zaxor]

Sorry Rich but first off what is a Truthers

:doh: Truth...ers...sorry Rich I read truthers as something else.. is that a group of "truth seekers" so to speak and do they have some kind of theory on this or something.

 

[Zaxor]

Once the structure on the floor where the plane hit gave way all the floors above fell and impacted the floor immediately below. That amount of impact loading was more than enough to collapse that floor. It was like dominoes after that. Each successive floor below had to endure the impact of all the floors above crashing into them.

That is the only way I could see it happening man...that is what I was saying to the naked eye it didn't look like enough mass was above to bring down the building but what the heck do I know...I have no idea really and leave it to those who know much more about it than I do.

 

[Ren]

Forgive me all for this question and I do not believe in a conspiracy theory but something has never sat quite right with me on how come the buildings went down and I have not seen it or read it to know so forgive my ignorance... but the little I know of physics says that heat rises and at the level at which the twin towers were struck it doesn't seem to (the eye) have enough mass to collapse the entire building...I would have thought at worse the top floors might burn away (sorta like holding a match up right after the fuel is spent it goes out without consuming the stick) so I never understood how they collapsed ... but I go through life not understanding lots of things I guess... any engineers out there that might have the answer and enlighten the ignorant would be much appreciated.

The steel structure distributed the weight of those floors evenly down the height of the building, that's how they are able to build that high.
No floors in them selves where designed to support all the floors above, this would be impossible. Once the steel gave out the weight of those floors above pushed down on the floors below which could not support that much weight and they gave out one by one. The steel structure that holds everything up is not designed for all that weight on 1 spot so that too gives out

 

[big dog cowboy]

Considering the amount of damage the planes themselves did in addition to all that fuel burning and heat, I'm surprised it took as long as it did for the those towers to collapse.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Sorry Rich but first off what is a Truthers

The people that claim 9/11 was an conspiracy. That's what they call themselves.





YR

 

[Venger]

Forgive me all for this question and I do not believe in a conspiracy theory but something has never sat quite right with me on how come the buildings went down and I have not seen it or read it to know so forgive my ignorance... but the little I know of physics says that heat rises and at the level at which the twin towers were struck it doesn't seem to (the eye) have enough mass to collapse the entire building...I would have thought at worse the top floors might burn away (sorta like holding a match up right after the fuel is spent it goes out without consuming the stick) so I never understood how they collapsed ... but I go through life not understanding lots of things I guess... any engineers out there that might have the answer and enlighten the ignorant would be much appreciated.

Heat does not rise. Hot air rises. And that's due to gas laws.

I don't understand what is so hard to get. They flew a fully fueled airliner at top speed into the building. And we can't understand why that caused them to collapse?

I mean what is the alternate hypotheses - that hundreds and hundreds of people participated in a massive conspiracy that was pulled off flawlessly - to what logical end?

You really have to have a serious social disconnect to buy into anything truther ******s are peddling.

 

[trickblue]

He's an idiot for not being a good sheep and following along with the official story of 9/11? Not at all.

Only an idiot would take something at face value as "fact".

Edit: ...and before you delete my post for the reason of this not being the "Political Zone". Fine..I'll give you that. ....but this whole damn board is the politically correct zone. Oh no! Don't question anything the good ol gooberment says, just bury your head in the sand!

You'll notice your post isn't deleted... because you are 100% wrong. This board is family friendly, not politically correct. There is a distinct difference that you obviously fail to grasp...

No one is forcing you to read or post here... there are plenty of other boards out there that aren't family friendly that would welcome titty pics and f-bombs. This one won't...

Stick around if you want, but I can't understand why you would torture yourself when it's so awful around here...

Carry on...

 

[WV Cowboy]

there are plenty of other boards out there that aren't family friendly that would welcome titty pics

Where are these sites, so I can make sure I don't stumble upon them?

 

[joseephuss]

Where are these sites, so I can make sure I don't stumble upon them?

I agree. Please protect me from myself TB.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

...he's now defending Bin Laden.

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2...Gigya_Steelers_Running_Back_Defends_Bin_Laden

Rashard Mendenhall, the 23-year-old native of Illinois didn't like the way Americans were celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden on Monday, and he let out his frustrations on Twitter.

"What kind of person celebrates death?" Mendenhall, who last made national headlines for fumbling in the Super Bowl and "celebrating" a little too hard with Ben Roethlisberger in the playoffs, wrote. "It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side ..."

That wasn't all, though, as Mendenhall expressed doubt that airplanes could have demolished the World Trade Center.

"We'll never know what really happened," Mendenhall wrote. "I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."

 

[Manwiththeplan]

...he's now defending Bin Laden.

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2...Gigya_Steelers_Running_Back_Defends_Bin_Laden

Rashard Mendenhall, the 23-year-old native of Illinois didn't like the way Americans were celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden on Monday, and he let out his frustrations on Twitter.

"What kind of person celebrates death?" Mendenhall, who last made national headlines for fumbling in the Super Bowl and "celebrating" a little too hard with Ben Roethlisberger in the playoffs, wrote. "It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side ..."

That wasn't all, though, as Mendenhall expressed doubt that airplanes could have demolished the World Trade Center.

"We'll never know what really happened," Mendenhall wrote. "I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style."

there's a thread on this in the nfl zone

 

[RoyTheHammer]

This is old news.. and i wouldn't say he's defending Bin Laden.

 

[superpunk]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter?

 

[Established1971]

My question is what all of these "truthers" expected to happen? They claim that the buildings went down "demolition style", but I'm not sure what they think should have happened to them. Were they supposed to spontaneously vaporize? Tip over sideways? Gravity is a constant force in a single direction, and absent any other forces something heavy enough to essentially nullify the effect of air resistance should fall straight down. It went down exactly as the laws of physics dictate it shoud have.

sorry, tipping over sideways seems much more what all of us would have expected to happen in such a case up to 9/10/01

Im not saying Im a truther, just saying you have a little hindsight in your point

 

[DallasGirl50]

Rosie O'Donnell, who claimed it was not possible for fire to melt steel.

Well, ahem, how do you think they were making it 3000 years ago Rosie? Fire absolutely melts steel - they weren't melting it with frickin' laser beams shooting from the eyes of sharks...

Rosie is one "celebrity" that will say most anything to get herself in the news. She's mentally challenged.

 

[joseephuss]

sorry, tipping over sideways seems much more what all of us would have expected to happen in such a case up to 9/10/01

Im not saying Im a truther, just saying you have a little hindsight in your point

Who is all of us?

Why would it tip over sideways? And to what extent? In some sense there was some slight tipping that occurred by small portions of each tower; however, the vast majority of the collapse was straight down. And why shouldn't it be? It wasn't as if one complete side of supports was taken out or that the initial plane impacts occurred very low on the building to really change the center of gravity.

As far as hindsight and foresight, there is some foresight that goes into designing such skyscrapers. They try to imagine what happens if the building is faced with catastrophic failure. Designing a building to minimize the chances of any massive tipping over sideways was probably part of that foresight because that would have been the absolute worst case scenario.

 

[Yeagermeister]

The towers wouldn't have tipped because of the internal support system that ran up through the middle of the buildings. If those supports were not build in to the towers the planes would have cut straight through the buildings.