Apparently Rashard Mendenhall Really Is an Idiot

Yeagermeister;3941383 said:
The towers wouldn't have tipped because of the internal support system that ran up through the middle of the buildings. If those supports were not build in to the towers the planes would have cut straight through the buildings.

I was watching a documentary on 9/11 last night and when you see the 2nd plane hit, it looks like it almost cuts straight thru the 2nd tower. How people cannot see that causing the building to collapse by itself boggles my mind.





YR
 
Unfortunately we live in a world where there must be a conspiracy attached to almost everything headline making...

people often do look for colors in places where things are very black and white.

that's what happened with 9/11.
 
Mendenhall posts clarification about Twitter comments

5/4/2011 12:15:27 PM

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall today posted a clarification on his blog about recent Twitter posts dealing with the death of Osama bin Laden.
He said some of the comments have been misconstrued.

"What kind of person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
In his clarification, Mendenhall said, "First, I want people to understand that I am not in support of Bin Laden, or against the USA. I understand how devastating 9/11 was to this country and to the people whose families were affected."

He said the controversial statement "was something I said in response to the amount of joy I saw in the event of a murder. I don't believe that this is an issue of politics or American pride; but one of religion, morality, and human ethics."

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Yeah, that is really going to clarify your point Rashard. Moron.
 
Unfortunately we live in a world where people think "I'm ignorant about science but I think something so I'm going to say it!" is acceptable.

If he had just stopped at "I can't celebrate anybody's death," he would've been alright. It was him not understanding why people hated OBL and saying we've only heard one side that just pushed it over the edge. What a complete idiot.
 
fiveandcounting;3941319 said:
sorry, tipping over sideways seems much more what all of us would have expected to happen in such a case up to 9/10/01

Im not saying Im a truther, just saying you have a little hindsight in your point

The majority of Americans do not have a firm grasp of physics or science in general. I don't really care what most people in the country expected to happen, I care what should have happened. There's no "hindsight" in saying that gravity and the central supports dictated that it fall straight down.
 
Venger;3941174 said:
Heat does not rise. Hot air rises. And that's due to gas laws.

I don't understand what is so hard to get. They flew a fully fueled airliner at top speed into the building. And we can't understand why that caused them to collapse?

I mean what is the alternate hypotheses - that hundreds and hundreds of people participated in a massive conspiracy that was pulled off flawlessly - to what logical end?

You really have to have a serious social disconnect to buy into anything truther ******s are peddling.

Sorry Veng not trying to be dense but what is heat than if it isn't a release of energy...and how is it I can hold a heated steel rod at the bottom and it is not hot and anything above where it is heated is hot....of course the length plays a part but still....maybe I am not explaining it very well ...but anyway I find it much easier to believe that the excess weight crushed the building even though the mass didn't look like it would (again only to my untrained eye) but I can buy into that... and I had no idea till just a few hours ago what the heck a truther was and am still not interested enough into looking for what they may or may not believe...it was my own personal observation but like I stated I have no training in engineering... none... and am only making a very uneducated observation. That is why I asked because I knew someone with more knowledge than I have would chime in and let me know how much I don't know.:)
 
Joshmvii;3941587 said:
Unfortunately we live in a world where people think "I'm ignorant about science but I think something so I'm going to say it!" is acceptable.

If he had just stopped at "I can't celebrate anybody's death," he would've been alright. It was him not understanding why people hated OBL and saying we've only heard one side that just pushed it over the edge. What a complete idiot.

Josh I am ignorant and that is why I asked..I did not ask to be controversial.
 
I'm with him on one point: What kind of person celebrates (in the street much less) a death? IIRC we were pretty pissed when some in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere around the world did the same.

He is also correct that we've only heard one side and we're hardly clean-handed when it comes to the effects of our foreign policy (even well prior to 9/11), but I'm not sure what he is trying to prove there. The whole 9/11 plot was still seven magnitudes of ***ed up no matter how ****ed up our foreign policy happens to be.

The conspiracy theory crap grew tiresome years ago.
 
Cowboysfan570;3941702 said:
I'm with him on one point: What kind of person celebrates (in the street much less) a death? IIRC we were pretty pissed when some in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere around the world did the same.

He is also correct that we've only heard one side and we're hardly clean-handed when it comes to the effects of our foreign policy (even well prior to 9/11), but I'm not sure what he is trying to prove there. The whole 9/11 plot was still seven magnitudes of ***ed up no matter how ****ed up our foreign policy happens to be.

The conspiracy theory crap grew tiresome years ago.

When a death sends a message to people that want to kill me and my friends and family that if they do so I will hunt them down and make them pay, I think it worthy of celebration. It's not vengence that is worthy of celebration, nor the loss of likfe itself, but the message it sends. That message so overwhelms the loss of a violent and evil man who would only continue to be violent and evil that I feel no remorse for celebrating.
 
Stautner;3941802 said:
When a death sends a message to people that want to kill me and my friends and family that if they do so I will hunt them down and make them pay, I think it worthy of celebration. It's not vengence that is worthy of celebration, nor the loss of likfe itself, but the message it sends. That message so overwhelms the loss of a violent and evil man who would only continue to be violent and evil that I feel no remorse for celebrating.

Seems funny to me that all the familes of the victims who were interviewed after we killed bin laden condemned the celebrating. They are the ones who experienced true loss and yet they have a better head on their shoulders about the big picture than most of us.
 
In some way I think he has a point. People aren't very thoughtful about it. To me it's a reason to reflect, not celebrate. To many people had to die to bring bin Laden to justice.
 
RoyTheHammer;3941811 said:
Seems funny to me that all the familes of the victims who were interviewed after we killed bin laden condemned the celebrating. They are the ones who experienced true loss and yet they have a better head on their shoulders about the big picture than most of us.

It seems perfectly natural to me. Wouldn't you expect the families of victims to find this bittersweet - after all they don't have the luxury of celebrating something that may help prevent their families from being the victim of terrorism - it's too late for them. The rest of the country has a differnt perspective. To the rest of the country the death of Bin Laden represents hope that terrorism can be defeated and that they wont have to experience the same thing the victims and the families of victims have had to.
 
baj1dallas;3941828 said:
In some way I think he has a point. It should be hard to believe it happened and it should have never happened. But the people charged with protecting this country were never held responsible, and who was it that trained bin Laden in the first place? Bin Laden is responsible for what he did, but what about the people who's job it is to prevent it from happening, not just in the months before, but years?

I have never understood this thinking. Yes, people are charged with protecting the American people from terrorism, but do yuo really think it's possible to prevent everything? How would you go about it? Close the borders - no tourism or intercultural exchange of resources? Install cameras in every room in every building in the country and employ 25 million people to monitor them all? Increase the size of the CIA, FBI, INS, Border Patrols etc by a thousand times? Install monitoring chips in every citizen and everyone who enters the country?

Who do we blame for Columbine? Who do we blame for Oklahoma City? Who do we blame for the bomb at the Atlanta Olympics?

Do we condemn the police because we can't prevent every robbery or murder or assault? Do we condemn the FBI because they can't uncover every Federal crime before it happens? Do we condemn the Department of Transportation because they can't prevent every truck from transporting prohibited goods accrose state lines? Do we condemn the SEC for not preventing every case of insider trading?

Do you think Utopia is possible through law enforcement?

To point the finger at ANYONE other than who perpetrated the act is a load of crap. So no, this is not a point in the discussion, because there is absolutely no evidence that the attacks were able to happen through any misconduct or negligence on the part of any law enforcement or military body charged with protecting the public.
 
RoyTheHammer;3941811 said:
Seems funny to me that all the familes of the victims who were interviewed after we killed bin laden condemned the celebrating. They are the ones who experienced true loss and yet they have a better head on their shoulders about the big picture than most of us.

That's BS.

I know families who lost loved ones in 9/11. And most of them were celebrating that Bin Laden was brought to justice.

Don't give me this 'ALL of the families' crap. I know from first hand experience that's not true. In fact, it's mostly the opposite.





YR
 
kapolani;3939756 said:
Wait a second?

You mean all the muslims chanting death to Americans in some sandy country is different? How about parading America's fallen through the streets like a piece of meat?

If I had it my way I would have put his head on the end of my spear and mounted it outside the gates of the White House.
Exactly. And what about all the people in islamic countries that where celebrating and dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened? Celebrating the death of a murderer of the innocent >>>>> Celebrating the death of the innocent

RoyTheHammer;3941811 said:
Seems funny to me that all the familes of the victims who were interviewed after we killed bin laden condemned the celebrating. They are the ones who experienced true loss and yet they have a better head on their shoulders about the big picture than most of us.
That's not what I saw. I saw the families of victims saying they where happy OBL was dead and justice was served, but they where still sad because his death will not bring their lost family members back.
 
Yakuza Rich;3941895 said:
That's BS.

I know families who lost loved ones in 9/11. And most of them were celebrating that Bin Laden was brought to justice.

Don't give me this 'ALL of the families' crap. I know from first hand experience that's not true. In fact, it's mostly the opposite.





YR

He did say the families that were interviewed. And I take that to mean the families he happened to see interviewed. It depends on which coverage he was watching. It would be an easy matter for a news group to leave out any families who felt differently in their coverage. Even easier to miss seeing an interview with families reacting differently. There definitely is not a "100% of people feel this way about it" reaction out there.
 
fiveandcounting;3941319 said:
sorry, tipping over sideways seems much more what all of us would have expected to happen in such a case up to 9/10/01

Im not saying Im a truther, just saying you have a little hindsight in your point


Oh you mean you didn't have knowledge of Gravity prior to 9/11?

Well in that case I'm completely sorry. I didn't realise the common knowledge of gravity was only given to some people and not others. In that case I can completely see how people would completely miss how gravity works.
 
I don't think Mendenhall needs to apologize to anyone... when he's not in uniform he can practice his right of free speech whether he's right or wrong...

If you don't like that move to a country where you can't speak freely...

Let's separate the athlete from the person and their right on their private time to express an opinion right or wrong...

If two jets made the twin towers collapse at free fall speed on 9/11 how do you account for a third building, Bldg 7 falling at free fall speed due to small fires...
 

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