Archer - 2 Sources have Newman deal close - 5/19/08

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Joe Rod;2087946 said:
$1, plus stock options

depending on the stock options id do it...as much as the nfl and teams make, id see a nice check every month
 

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dcfanatic;2087744 said:
If NFL owners opt out of the current collective bargaining agreement at their spring meeting today in Atlanta, contracts done afterward would have to follow more stringent salary-cap rules set up for 2010 and beyond.
Okay, what does this mean? "More stringent"? We don't even know what a new CBA would look like, so I'm not sure what Archer means.

Also, the no-cap provision is just a poison pill. The deadline also has the no-draft deadline as well, so those are purely incentives to get a new deal done. The union has said that if the cap goes away, they're never going to accept another one. And the owners don't want that. Even if one or two of the highest-revenue teams like Jerry would accept a capless league -- and I doubt even they do -- not enough teams would vote that way for it to pass.
 

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Mickey just said on Talking Cowboys that Newman will sign his deal today at 3 pm.
 

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arync;2087977 said:
Mickey just said on Talking Cowboys that Newman will sign his deal today at 3 pm.

I don't guess he mentioned any numbers, did he? Or comparable contracts?

Today's going to be interesting, watching the usual suspects melt down doomsday-style when they see this. :)
 

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arync;2087977 said:
Mickey just said on Talking Cowboys that Newman will sign his deal today at 3 pm.

if your lying...
 

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the kid 05;2087960 said:
depending on the stock options id do it...as much as the nfl and teams make, id see a nice check every month

How about $1 + 90,000 barrels of oil a year for 5 years? :laugh2:
 

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I don't think he's lying, guys. I turned on Talking Cowboys and they're speculating on possible numbers for the contract right now. (Haven't heard announcement of a press conference yet, though.)
 

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nyc;2087989 said:
How about $1 + 90,000 barrels of oil a year for 5 years? :laugh2:

how big are the barrels? lol
 

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Chocolate Lab;2087971 said:
Okay, what does this mean? "More stringent"? We don't even know what a new CBA would look like, so I'm not sure what Archer means.

Also, the no-cap provision is just a poison pill. The deadline also has the no-draft deadline as well, so those are purely incentives to get a new deal done. The union has said that if the cap goes away, they're never going to accept another one. And the owners don't want that. Even if one or two of the highest-revenue teams like Jerry would accept a capless league -- and I doubt even they do -- not enough teams would vote that way for it to pass.
OPT OUT WILL CREATE HAVOC FOR FRONT OFFICES

Posted by Mike Florio on May 20, 2008, 1:24 p.m.

Earlier in the day, we pointed out a statement from Todd Archer’s article regarding the negotiations between the Cowboys and cornerback Terence Newman.

“If NFL owners opt out of the current collective bargaining agreement at their spring meeting today in Atlanta, contracts done afterward would have to follow more stringent salary-cap rules set up for 2010 and beyond,” Archer writes.

The truth, however, is that there’s no magic to the timing of the opt out. Now that the owners have pulled the plug two years early on the CBA, 2009 will be the last year with a salary cap, and 2010 will have no salary cap, but likewise will have certain specific restrictions applicable to free agency.

And so now all contracts — those negotiated yesterday, today, and tomorrow — will become part of the overall picture that each front office much consider when attempting to comply with the applicable salary cap rules. This includes contracts signed even before the 2006 CBA extension, when no one knew that 2006 might be the last capped year, or that 2009 might be the last capped year, too.

Moving forward, NFL front offices will have to come up with contracts that comply with the 2008 cap rules, the rules of the last capped year in 2009, and the realities of the uncapped year. They’ll also have to account for the presently unknown terms of an extension, if an extension is eventually reached.

In other words, it’s got the potential to be a huge mess for every NFL, and it likely makes the league more willing to head to the uncapped year in 2010 after they wade through the bigger mess, which will be the last capped year.

And it all begins in less than ten months.

Tick. Tock.
 

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WoodysGirl;2088221 said:
OPT OUT WILL CREATE HAVOC FOR FRONT OFFICES

Posted by Mike Florio on May 20, 2008, 1:24 p.m.

Earlier in the day, we pointed out a statement from Todd Archer’s article regarding the negotiations between the Cowboys and cornerback Terence Newman.

“If NFL owners opt out of the current collective bargaining agreement at their spring meeting today in Atlanta, contracts done afterward would have to follow more stringent salary-cap rules set up for 2010 and beyond,” Archer writes.

The truth, however, is that there’s no magic to the timing of the opt out. Now that the owners have pulled the plug two years early on the CBA, 2009 will be the last year with a salary cap, and 2010 will have no salary cap, but likewise will have certain specific restrictions applicable to free agency.

And so now all contracts — those negotiated yesterday, today, and tomorrow — will become part of the overall picture that each front office much consider when attempting to comply with the applicable salary cap rules. This includes contracts signed even before the 2006 CBA extension, when no one knew that 2006 might be the last capped year, or that 2009 might be the last capped year, too.

Moving forward, NFL front offices will have to come up with contracts that comply with the 2008 cap rules, the rules of the last capped year in 2009, and the realities of the uncapped year. They’ll also have to account for the presently unknown terms of an extension, if an extension is eventually reached.

In other words, it’s got the potential to be a huge mess for every NFL, and it likely makes the league more willing to head to the uncapped year in 2010 after they wade through the bigger mess, which will be the last capped year.

And it all begins in less than ten months.

Tick. Tock.

From a fan's perspective this will probably end up sucking-- a lot.

The potential not having a complete NFL season in 2011 is huge.

BUT, from a business perspective and pure theater-- it should be very interesting to watch how both sides play this out.
 

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jswalker1981;2087772 said:
Alright, I think we have to ask the question who will be gone soon? We can't re-sign everyone. Obviously, Ware will be re-signed, as will Owens. Does Canty get a long-term contract? We still have to worry about Hamlin and Barber. Do we try to re-sign Hamlin and let Roy go after this year, and move Henry to safety? There is only so much money to go around.

Henry and his contract expire after 2009, Marc Columbo's contract expires after this year. And we also have Terry Glenn and his money that we will get after either this year or next....

We should be able to keep TO, Barber, Canty, Hamlin and of course Ware.
 
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