Are Cowboys fan worry about Commanders?

[firehawk350]

I think, what he was mentioning, was there are more Commanders threads in the Cowboys zone here and there aren't any in the Commanders section of ES (not familar with how they set that up there though).

But everyone, take a bow, you were just tricked by an "illiterate Commander fan". Obvious trolling and most of you fell for it.

Either way, the Art of War says this on the subject (not a direct quote, but the best I can remember), "one who knows themselves but not their enemy will suffer a loss for every victory. One who knows themselves and their enemy will never taste defeat." There is value in knowing your rivals as well as yourself (unless of course you disagree with Sun Tzu, in that case, the Army would like a word with you).

 

[firehawk350]

But to answer your question. I am not the least bit worried about the Skins, and here is why:

1. QB - On his best day he is slighly above average and most days he is not at his best.

Par for the course for a Cowboys fan, me and Silverbear already had a huge debate about this. Will leave it alone.

2. RB - Past his prime. Not a big play threat.

Right... He's as fast as Laron Landry (there's a couple of vids they have floating around of those two racing yesterday and it's damn near even. Give him a line that isn't at only 60% last year (where he still outperformed your "pro-bowl RB") and you'll see plenty of plays.

3. WE - Your top statistical performing WR had 3 TD catches. Your best WR is Antwaan Randle El and he had 1 TD catch.

You're ignorant if you think Randle El is the "best WR". There is no debate for this. Either way, we did upgrade this position significantly and statistically speaking, there's a chance that one of our draft picks will catch on.

4. OL - Your OL is ok, but not better than the Dallas OL.

I'll take a healthy Skins OL over a healthy Dallas OL, but honestly, there are strengths to each one.

5. TE - Your Tight End is the best player on your team (that is probably not a good thing), but still not better than Witten.

Cooley isn't even the best player on the offense. Portis is.

6. DL - Is down right bad and everyone knows it...except for Washington.

7. LB - An ok group of guys. But, again Demarcus Ware, Bradie James, Zack Thomas, and Gregg Ellis are better.

8. DB - You lost your best DB. Rogers is a borderline bust. Springs is good, but a little long in the tooth now. Smoot is well Smoot.

Our defense ranked better than yours (#8 vs. #9) yet we're inferior at every position? How is this possible?

9. Coach - Your coach has as much NFL Head Coaching experience as I do.

Man, you sure told us there. Somebody who has never been a head coach can never be any good, gotcha...

 

[superpunk]

There are two threads about the Commanders on the front page. There is also one about the Buccaneers.

My inconclusive study shows that we are roughly twice as worried about the Commanders as we are the Buccaneers. Probably because we play them twice.

That's science.

 

[Doomsday101]

Commanders are but 1 team on our schedule I'm no more concerned with them as any other team we face.

 

[firehawk350]

I'm just relaying what I believe his logic to have been. Not agreeing nor disagreeing. I think it has a lot more to do with the way the mods run the forum; in the offseason, threads that are about a division rival or are especially interesting are usually allowed in the cowboys zone. I'm not sure how it is in ES, but I know at hR, they are very particular about putting something that isn't Commanders related in the right place. There isn't a "best" way to do it I think.

FYI, in the NFL section of hR, there are four or five threads that are cowboys related. Not exactly cowboys obsessed now is it?

 

[TNCowboy]

Par for the course for a Cowboys fan, me and Silverbear already had a huge debate about this. Will leave it alone.

Right... He's as fast as Laron Landry (there's a couple of vids they have floating around of those two racing yesterday and it's damn near even. Give him a line that isn't at only 60% last year (where he still outperformed your "pro-bowl RB") and you'll see plenty of plays.

You're ignorant if you think Randle El is the "best WR". There is no debate for this. Either way, we did upgrade this position significantly and statistically speaking, there's a chance that one of our draft picks will catch on.

I'll take a healthy Skins OL over a healthy Dallas OL, but honestly, there are strengths to each one.

Cooley isn't even the best player on the offense. Portis is.

Our defense ranked better than yours (#8 vs. #9) yet we're inferior at every position? How is this possible?

At the end of last season, the Cowboys had one of the NFL's youngest teams. The Commanders had the oldest team, by far.

Your team was clearly better when a 35 yr old career backup scrub took over for Campbell.

It's only going to get worse for you.

 

[superpunk]

Your team was clearly better when a 35 yr old career backup scrub took over for Campbell.

This is the thing that should make Commanders fans sit up in the middle of the night screaming.

Amazingly, they seem to be okay with it.

 

[Hostile]

I'm just relaying what I believe his logic to have been. Not agreeing nor disagreeing. I think it has a lot more to do with the way the mods run the forum; in the offseason, threads that are about a division rival or are especially interesting are usually allowed in the cowboys zone. I'm not sure how it is in ES, but I know at hR, they are very particular about putting something that isn't Commanders related in the right place. There isn't a "best" way to do it I think.

FYI, in the NFL section of hR, there are four or five threads that are cowboys related. Not exactly cowboys obsessed now is it?

Ding, ding, ding. We've had threads about just about every team this off season. If you combine our total number of Commanders threads and compare it to the total number of Cowboys threads at ES it would be a fraction.

Worried about the Maroon, Yellow, and Black? Hardly.

 

[firehawk350]

Cowboys fans should follow around TO like a whole group of bodyguards, I'm not sure there's any team in the league as dependent on one player as the Cowboys are on TO.

Amazingly, you seem to be okay with it.

 

[gbrittain]

Par for the course for a Cowboys fan, me and Silverbear already had a huge debate about this. Will leave it alone.



Right... He's as fast as Laron Landry (there's a couple of vids they have floating around of those two racing yesterday and it's damn near even. Give him a line that isn't at only 60% last year (where he still outperformed your "pro-bowl RB") and you'll see plenty of plays.



You're ignorant if you think Randle El is the "best WR". There is no debate for this. Either way, we did upgrade this position significantly and statistically speaking, there's a chance that one of our draft picks will catch on.



I'll take a healthy Skins OL over a healthy Dallas OL, but honestly, there are strengths to each one.



Cooley isn't even the best player on the offense. Portis is.



Our defense ranked better than yours (#8 vs. #9) yet we're inferior at every position? How is this possible?



Man, you sure told us there. Somebody who has never been a head coach can never be any good, gotcha...

1. You're QB has rating in the 70s...if you are not aware that it not very good. Maybe he will get better, but that is an unknown. We do know that he is barely average right now.

2. Portis has averaged 4.3, 4.1 and 3.9 YPC in successive years. His longest TD run has also dropped each from 47 yards, 38 yards, and 32 yards. Don't tell me he is still a big play guy. He needs to prove it on the field.

3. So you are banking on rookie WRs that were not even good enough to be drafted in the 1st round. :laugh2: So Santana is your best WR...good then your BEST wr had 10 more catches for a whopping additonal 80 yards. He had a grand total of two more TDs than Antwann! Again...:laugh2:

4. Evidently by your own admission your line was injury prone last year. Didn't you guys lose one of your quality OL guys to FA? Your OL is not as good as Dallas.

5. See my point on Portis again. Cooley is much more valuable and better than Portis. Portis scares no one. He is a solid work horse kind of guy, good, but definitely not great. Cooley is great IMO.

6. I take no joy in this, but your defense lost in a land slide their best player. Your old DL is a year older. You tell me which unit of the Commanders defense is better than the Cowboys...I am all ears and I can't wait to hear your spin.

7. Never said he can't be any good...I did say he has zero experience. Are you telling me now experience means nothing?

 

[Hostile]

Cowboys fans should follow around TO like a whole group of bodyguards, I'm not sure there's any team in the league as dependent on one player as the Cowboys are on TO.

Amazingly, you seem to be okay with it.

Ridiculous.

 

[hardcorebob]

Worried about the Commanders!?!?!? LMAO

 

[firehawk350]

You think this might be because there's a lot more as far as posters there, and therefore, you are more likely to get the "lunatic fringe"? Or maybe they started off with a "questionable" membership and those who didn't agree levitated to other Skins message board (the warpath and hailredskins) and ES picked up the crazier posters...

Generally speaking, the Skins tend to be more "worried" about the Cowboys and the Cowboys tend to be more "worried" about the Skins than any other team. It goes both ways. Otherwise, would this thread be this long?

 

[Doomsday101]

You think this might be because there's a lot more as far as posters there, and therefore, you are more likely to get the "lunatic fringe"? Or maybe they started off with a "questionable" membership and those who didn't agree levitated to other Skins message board (the warpath and hailredskins) and ES picked up the crazier posters...

Generally speaking, the Skins tend to be more "worried" about the Cowboys and the Cowboys tend to be more "worried" about the Skins than any other team. It goes both ways. Otherwise, would this thread be this long?

Maybe because a Commander fan started this crud. Right now the Giants are the SB champs so if there is any team in the east to have some concerns over it it the Giants.

 

[firehawk350]

Ridiculous.

Obviously some hyperbole there, but you can take away any one player from the Commanders and they will be okay. You take away TO, and now Romo is throwing INTs all over the place and you lose two of the last three. The effect was obvious.

 

[tomson75]

Cowboys fans should follow around TO like a whole group of bodyguards, I'm not sure there's any team in the league as dependent on one player as the Cowboys are on TO.

Amazingly, you seem to be okay with it.

Huh? You can't possibly be suggesting....nah, that'd be stupid. I can think of twelve reasons why you'd be wrong.

If you're suggesting that our receiver talent is thin, you'd still be wrong.

...as a matter of fact, the only difference there is that the Commanders don't have one (a receiver) that's good enough to mention in that role. Poor skins.

 

[jterrell]

Obviously some hyperbole there, but you can take away any one player from the Commanders and they will be okay. You take away TO, and now Romo is throwing INTs all over the place and you lose two of the last three. The effect was obvious.

Or it could have been when Romo hit his hand on a helmet....

Sometimes you have to pay attention or else you miss reality.

End of the day the Commanders will be ranked bottom of the NFCE by virtually everyone. Not much to worry about.

Dallas does depend upon T.O.
Our offense actually looks a lot like the Skins offense when T.O. is out. That is what happens when you scare no one. But that's why Jerry is targeting a vet Wr same as little danny was before he blew his wad on this sad draft class.

 

[sonnyboy]

I love these type threads. Reading through it reminded me of a similar thread started last year by that pheonix-talon moron.

Eagles must have won a couple games and had him in a positive mind frame.

So this idiot comes here and starts a thread with this question...............

What does a SB team look like?

Do you guys remember the verbal beat down he received. Classic.

 

[Hostile]

Obviously some hyperbole there, but you can take away any one player from the Commanders and they will be okay. You take away TO, and now Romo is throwing INTs all over the place and you lose two of the last three. The effect was obvious.

So what I gather from this is that you want some kind of accolades for being an "okay" team.

To me that means mediocre. Yeah sure, congrats on being mediocre. Kudos on 3rd place in the Division.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

#1: I agree with Sarge. Toughest division in football and fans would be quite ignorant to think that the Cowboys don't have to worry about any of the teams in their division.

#2: I do agree with Firehawk, to some degree, on the TO issue. TO is the one player, other than Romo, that we absolutely, totally, and completely can not afford to lose for any amount of time. Anyone who doesn't believe that is in complete denial. This is a totally different, and vastly less explosive, offense without TO. If we had to go through the season, for any real stretch, with Crayton and Hurd as our starting WR's then we'd be screwed, plain and simple.