Are Romo's pre-snap reads that good? Did Weeden check out of anything?

[TellerMorrow34]

Did anyone seriously believe that Weeden would be making calls at the line anywhere close to what Romo does? I mean there can't really be anyone who actually thought Weeden was the type of QB that Tony is...right?

 

[Gameover]

I still haven't grown accustomed to Romo running the clock down inside of 2 seconds on every single play. He seemingly makes a dozen pre-snap checks at the line.
Thus, it made it very noticeable when Weeden just stepped up to the line and ran the play. Did he check out of anything? Was this the plan going into the game?

I think Weeden needs to be given a little more latitude in making pre-snap adjustments. I'm assuming there is a large trust issue.

I think most of that stuff is just Romo over thinking things.

 

[Oh_Canada]

They scored 28 first half points, problem was the Falcons adjusted amd Weeden/Linehan had no answer.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Weeden is still learning to be a QB in the NFL...even despite his age. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the experience that Kitna, Brad Johnson, or Orton did. We've had a good run at backup QB over the years...now we're getting burned!

 

[Sportsbabe]

I still haven't grown accustomed to Romo running the clock down inside of 2 seconds on every single play. He seemingly makes a dozen pre-snap checks at the line.
Thus, it made it very noticeable when Weeden just stepped up to the line and ran the play. Did he check out of anything? Was this the plan going into the game?

I think Weeden needs to be given a little more latitude in making pre-snap adjustments. I'm assuming there is a large trust issue.

Yes

 

[lqmac1]

By a large margin. A lot of defenses claim Romo knows what they're doing before the play.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Please don't let Weeden change plays........

Based on last game where he made BONE HEAD decisions to throw that INT and sliding to take a sack to kill a drive.....Hell NO! Both plays were the ones he need to throw the ball away. He has really demonstrated little football IQ for me to trust him to change plays.

This is the reason why I would rather have Moore in the game than Weeden. Even Cassell has more brains than he does.

His football IQ is terrible and his timing is bad. His timing is a second too slow or too fast. Thus they don't use Weeden on this timing passes to our TEs. They only use him on slants.

The FO has done some good things. But they should have never brought in Weeden for the sake of being a backup. Now its gone on to bite us.

 

[JoeKing]

Romo's pre snap reads are that good but don't get made at Weeden for not being in Romo's class. Romo has spoiled us, Romo is special. Weeden is a good QB that needs his team mates to have his back. Dropped balls and missed blocks are compounded errors with Romo not around to smooth things out.

 

[Tommy]

I think most of that stuff is just Romo over thinking things.

Really? What makes you think that?

 

[Thatkidbob]

This is the reason why I would rather have Moore in the game than Weeden. Even Cassell has more brains than he does.

His football IQ is terrible and his timing is bad. His timing is a second too slow or too fast. Thus they don't use Weeden on this timing passes to our TEs. They only use him on slants.

The FO has done some good things. But they should have never brought in Weeden for the sake of being a backup. Now its gone on to bite us.

This.

+ Weeden has no feel for *how* to throw the ball. No touch. He just throws bullets on every pass, with no thought to throwing a more catchable ball.

 

[Sportsbabe]

By a large margin. A lot of defenses claim Romo knows what they're doing before the play.

Romo is the real genius in the NFCE.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Really? What makes you think that?

He's overthinking it.

 

[aikemirv]

I still haven't grown accustomed to Romo running the clock down inside of 2 seconds on every single play. He seemingly makes a dozen pre-snap checks at the line.
Thus, it made it very noticeable when Weeden just stepped up to the line and ran the play. Did he check out of anything? Was this the plan going into the game?

I think Weeden needs to be given a little more latitude in making pre-snap adjustments. I'm assuming there is a large trust issue.

If you did not know this by know. Romo is just that good!!!

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The problem isn't the reads so much as letting the play clock run down so much is often counterproductive.

So, Romo can make the right read, but now the defense can use the play clock against us because they no longer have to worry at looking at the snap or going off the QB's cadence. They now know more precisely when to jump.

Another part to it is that you can have the right read, but it can be confusing for the rest of the players on offense. Somebody may not hear the audible or mis-hear the audible or go the wrong way because of the heat of the moment and the changes in the call. So the read can be perfect, but if it hurts the execution then it's a moot point.

There's other parts to it as well. A lot of times the D-Coordinator is only trying to get a feel with where Romo is going to go with the ball. So they'll throw a blitz look and a certain coverage and see where Romo goes with the ball and eventually set him up to give a similar look, but it's really disguised as something else. Haslett was really keen on doing that. He might get burned early on, but later on in the game it may result in a turnover. That's the good thing about a hurry up system...it makes it harder for a defense to set up their blitz and coverage disguises. But with a slow down system, one can get all of the protections right and possibly send somebody in motion and create a mismatch like Dunbar on a linebacker.

I just think it's pertinent for any offense to vary the snaps up. It makes it harder for the defense to get a rhythm and I think the offense as a whole moves better when the clock in Romo's head *pre-snap* is moving faster. With Weeden, I would prefer to simplify and not put the cart before the horse. And again...the offense still scored 28 points yesterday without Dez. The defense was awful and they need to be held accountable for it.





YR

 

[ufcrules1]

It was actually very nice to see the ball hiked at random times and moved right down the field. Sure Weeden sucks but he had no problem moving the ball down the field with dink and dunk passes the first half. I can't even imagine what it would be like with a QB like Rodgers or Brady here. No hiking at zero seconds.. just hike the ball and execute the play.

 

[TwentyOne]

I still haven't grown accustomed to Romo running the clock down inside of 2 seconds on every single play. He seemingly makes a dozen pre-snap checks at the line.
Thus, it made it very noticeable when Weeden just stepped up to the line and ran the play. Did he check out of anything? Was this the plan going into the game?

I think Weeden needs to be given a little more latitude in making pre-snap adjustments. I'm assuming there is a large trust issue.

Weeden checked out of some plays. I would not say that it were more or less then Romos did this or last season.

Romo was taken under control after the disaterous season 2013 where he checked out nearly on every play and 50% of the time it was the wrong decission.

Dont make the mistake to think that Romo is good at presnap reads just because he is taking himself so much time. The oposite is the case. And its one of the reasons Romo is always under preasure with the game clock.

Presnap reading is one thing where he is not good in. Just as an examle: If you have the opportunity have a look at the play he got hurt. Did not read the coverage (DE on his security target Dunbar) well and and didnt ajust to the blitzing side (putting witten in to block).

 

[ufcrules1]

The problem isn't the reads so much as letting the play clock run down so much is often counterproductive.

So, Romo can make the right read, but now the defense can use the play clock against us because they no longer have to worry at looking at the snap or going off the QB's cadence. They now know more precisely when to jump.

Another part to it is that you can have the right read, but it can be confusing for the rest of the players on offense. Somebody may not hear the audible or mis-hear the audible or go the wrong way because of the heat of the moment and the changes in the call. So the read can be perfect, but if it hurts the execution then it's a moot point.

There's other parts to it as well. A lot of times the D-Coordinator is only trying to get a feel with where Romo is going to go with the ball. So they'll throw a blitz look and a certain coverage and see where Romo goes with the ball and eventually set him up to give a similar look, but it's really disguised as something else. Haslett was really keen on doing that. He might get burned early on, but later on in the game it may result in a turnover. That's the good thing about a hurry up system...it makes it harder for a defense to set up their blitz and coverage disguises. But with a slow down system, one can get all of the protections right and possibly send somebody in motion and create a mismatch like Dunbar on a linebacker.

I just think it's pertinent for any offense to vary the snaps up. It makes it harder for the defense to get a rhythm and I think the offense as a whole moves better when the clock in Romo's head *pre-snap* is moving faster. With Weeden, I would prefer to simplify and not put the cart before the horse. And again...the offense still scored 28 points yesterday without Dez. The defense was awful and they need to be held accountable for it.

YR

Excellent thought out post. I feel the same exact way. I get the point that we want to see what a defense is going to do but as you pointed out it can contribute to other problems. Watch the elite QB out there and see if they wait until 00 seconds to hike the ball on most plays. They don't.. it is completely random.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Excellent thought out post. I feel the same exact way. I get the point that we want to see what a defense is going to do but as you pointed out it can contribute to other problems. Watch the elite QB out there and see if they wait until 00 seconds to hike the ball on most plays. They don't.. it is completely random.

Aw, the neutered version of you is just no fun. Now that Romo shut you up forever with his record setting campaign that got him MVP votes, all you can do is throw out lame little digs like this. It's almost sad to see you like this... now, back to the shadows you go.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Weeden doesn't have 1/10th of Romo's ability to read defenses.

But neither do 90 percent of the quarterbacks in the NFL.

Yup, Romo has become a master of reading the defense. I didn't hear Weeden call out the Mike back once