Are some of you mad at how we are building the team through the draft?

[CowboyRoy]

Mad we had a dumpster fire of an offseason. I'm fine with primarily going through the draft, Gregory, Cooper, and Collins all ***.

I think we had a great offseason. Did things we needed to do that I didn't think they would do.

 

[Manster_Mash]

Failed?

is that your pathetic angle? At least you admit we signed them.

Lost home WC is a success in your book?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Lost home WC is a success in your book?

Team overall success or failure has little to do with resigning an individual player. As much as some of you try to use that lame angle to form an argument.

So I guess nobody should sign anyone in the NFL but Rams players? Laughable

 

[jnday]

Building through the draft is great when quality FAs are brought in to fill the holes on the roster. Dumb and Dumber are too arrogant and stupid to sign quality FAs and they will never build a top team depending on strictly FAs or draftees. It has to be both. I am not for overpaying FAs, but signing a few reasonably price FAs is a must in building a top team.

 

[tm1119]

Or are you just upset that we aren't using FA to sign a couple high priced guys from other teams that will get us over the top?

I think your view of the NFL is at least 20 years outdated. There are way too many variables between injuries and player movement to think that a slow build to long sustained success is reasonable. The NFL is a year to year league filled with parody. As long as you have a capable qb (I personally think we do), a team should do everything within reason to put the best possible team on the field every year. Will the team eventually hit a roadblock and have to rebuild? Yes of course, but you take your dead cap hits on the chin for a year or 2, collect a couple of high picks, and then rebuild your next 4-5 year championship window.

If you honestly think the Jones’ are slowly building with a big picture in mind, I have some ocean front property to sell you Oklahoma…

 

[Manster_Mash]

Team overall success or failure has little to do with resigning an individual player. As much as some of you try to use that lame angle to form an argument.

So I guess nobody should sign anyone in the NFL but Rams players? Laughable

No you're right. Can't argue with the results. Enjoy the season, dude.

 

[gimmesix]

Like Gallup, Dak, and Shultz?

Three starters does not a championship team make. When you have Connor Williams starting at guard because you won't replace him with an outside FA. When your DTs are either cheap FAs or draft picks who have not shown they can play at a high level. That's when you lose to teams like San Francisco in the playoffs because those draft picks you hit on are not enough to overcome your weaknesses.

Super Bowl teams use the draft and free agency to win. We have one arm tied behind our back. And it's sad because since the Joneses adopted this strategy of no major free agents, we've been one of the better drafting teams. If we actually used FA more than just as a cheap roster filler, maybe our results would be better (although we still would have had to overcome Garrett's coaching).

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think your view of the NFL is at least 20 years outdated. There are way too many variables between injuries and player movement to think that a slow build to long sustained success is reasonable. The NFL is a year to year league filled with parody. As long as you have a capable qb (I personally think we do), a team should do everything within reason to put the best possible team on the field every year. Will the team eventually hit a roadblock and have to rebuild? Yes of course, but you take your dead cap hits on the chin for a year or 2, collect a couple of high picks, and then rebuild your next 4-5 year championship window.

If you honestly think the Jones’ are slowly building with a big picture in mind, I have some ocean front property to sell you Oklahoma…

You must be talking to someone else. You obviously have no clue about my view of the NFL or my opinion on the Cowboys.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Three starters does not a championship team make. When you have Connor Williams starting at guard because you won't replace him with an outside FA. When your DTs are either cheap FAs or draft picks who have not shown they can play at a high level. That's when you lose to teams like San Francisco in the playoffs because those draft picks you hit on are not enough to overcome your weaknesses.

Super Bowl teams use the draft and free agency to win. We have one arm tied behind our back. And it's sad because since the Joneses adopted this strategy of no major free agents, we've been one of the better drafting teams. If we actually used FA more than just as a cheap roster filler, maybe our results would be better (although we still would have had to overcome Garrett's coaching).

Who said anything about 3 starters making a team a championship? You are arguing with someone that agrees with you on using FA.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No you're right. Can't argue with the results. Enjoy the season, dude.

We are talking about resigning players, not overall team success. Clearly you cant distinguish the two. But I think its clear at this point your just a troll trolling.

 

[gimmesix]

Who said anything about 3 starters making a team a championship? You are arguing with someone that agrees with you on using FA.

All right. Not sure why you brought up those three players then.

And it's not really just free agency we need to use. We're reluctant to trade, which is understandable because it costs you draft picks, but sometimes trading can be used to your advantage. Would San Fran have beaten us without Garropolo, whom it traded for? Would the 49ers have beaten us without Trent Williams?

We did trade for Cooper and I applaud that even though he's no longer with the team. For once since we adopted our FA philosophy, we saw a problem area and aggressively addressed it. It helped us win some games, but it wasn't enough because our free agency moves that year were Joe Thomas, Allen Hurns, Deonte Thompson, Cameron Fleming and Marcus Martin. Funny thing is we also traded for Jamize Olawale, so that's two trades so it's not just about making such moves, it's about who you make those moves to acquire.

 

[CowboyRoy]

All right. Not sure why you brought up those three players then.

And it's not really just free agency we need to use. We're reluctant to trade, which is understandable because it costs you draft picks, but sometimes trading can be used to your advantage. Would San Fran have beaten us without Garropolo, whom it traded for? Would the 49ers have beaten us without Trent Williams?

We did trade for Cooper and I applaud that even though he's no longer with the team. For once since we adopted our FA philosophy, we saw a problem area and aggressively addressed it. It helped us win some games, but it wasn't enough because our free agency moves that year were Joe Thomas, Allen Hurns, Deonte Thompson, Cameron Fleming and Marcus Martin. Funny thing is we also traded for Jamize Olawale, so that's two trades so it's not just about making such moves, it's about who you make those moves to acquire.

I mentioned them because someone claimed we never spend big in FA's. Those were 3 recently.

As far as using all facets to improve the team, I think we all agree the Cowboys dont do it.

 

[gimmesix]

I mentioned them because someone claimed we never spend big in FA's. Those were 3 recently.

As far as using all facets to improve the team, I think we all agree the Cowboys dont do it.

OK. Didn't realize you were responding to someone else. The Joneses' philosophy is definitely reward our own, and unlike some others, I really don't have a problem with that. The players get what the market is paying.

It makes me laugh when some of our fans say that the Joneses have gotten cheap. I think the contracts you mentioned, along with some others like Elliott's and Lawrence's, show that isn't the case. They are willing to pay. They are just not willing to pay for high-priced outside free agents, primarily because some like Brandon Carr didn't live up to the price tag. I think that's a very short-sighted philosophy in light of other teams showing that FA can be used to help you win Super Bowls.

 

[coult44]

Or are you just upset that we aren't using FA to sign a couple high priced guys from other teams that will get us over the top?

Keep drafting good and not signing FA’s and you will continue to never be a winning team!!!

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

that’s about as laughable as all your clown threads.

He did make 20 million a year for a reason.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Not a free agent he was traded for after wr by committee didn't work.

Same thing. Same cost. Same result. Expensive cost that didn't pan out.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If you are trying to copy last years champ you will be chasing your tail for a while, KC did not do it by giving up every draft choice they had, they build through the draft and add some mid level FA. I guess what I'm getting at there is not just 1 way to achieve the goal, despite it being a copy cat league many teams have done it different ways.

KC absolutely went out and broke the bank in FA. They picked up some major offensive pieces first, do you remember when they paid an insane 16m$ a year to Sammy Watkins? At the time that was unbelievable WR money. 3/5ths(!) of their Oline that year was originally drafted by the Cleveland Browns.

And then there was the defensive acquisitions. 2018 they flopped in the AFCCG to NE because their defense was awful. So yes they gave up huge draft compensation to get their ring, and it was for Frank Clark, trading a 1 AND a 2 and giving him a record-breaking megadeal that offseason. And then after that they still had money to go out and give another huge contract to Honey Badger, making him one of the highest paid safeties in NFL history at the time. And then they went out and paid Bashaud Breeland a boatload of money to be their #1 CB. They had picked up Anthony Hitchens from you guys the year before, and then signed Alex Okafor to a big deal in 2019 to be the DE opposite Clark. All of their defensive standouts, save Chris Jones, were stars they bought from other teams. Imagine if Treyvon Diggs AND Micah Parsons AND Demarcus Lawrence AND Neville Gallimore AND Michael Gallup AND Tyron Smith AND Zach Martin AND Tyler Biadasz were all major free agent acquisitions. That’s pretty insane.

KC had some great players they drafted as the foundation of that team, no question, but their rise from playoff hopeful to SB champion was 100% bought. It was a big story that offseason how they had a credit card with no limit in their attempt to fix their issues. They Free Agency’d the crap out of that roster, as did just about every SB champion the last decade+

 

[plymkr]

Or are you just upset that we aren't using FA to sign a couple high priced guys from other teams that will get us over the top?

Good question. I get frustrated when Dallas goes a long time without addressing position or needs on the team. For instance a run stuffing DT and a quality safety. It seems like it's been forever since we can stop the run when we need too or have a playmaker at safety. Kearse is the best safety we had in a while and he was a bottom tier FA.

So Kearse is actually a good example of positive momentum from our FA philosophy. If we can bargain shop and get playmakers then great. Or get playmakers and fill needs in the draft. Great. I don't care as long as needs get met. I'm a little frustrated with this particular offseason because we need depth on the offensive and defensive line and help in the secondary; and we got all this cap money available. I don't care if they sign 3-5 bottom tier guys or 1 big FA. Just don't go into the season with position needs and a lot of salary cap that goes unspent. That's frustrating.

 

[RonWashington]

12-5 and division Champs last year is proving something right is working.

I like 12-5 sweeping the division but it doesn’t seem to translate when a battle tested team like the 49ers has to play the Rams & Cardinals twice a year and basically dominate your 12-5 sweep a weak teams division champ in there own Art Gallery .

They basically marched down the field opening drive like it was exibiton season then the Cowboys came out went three & out . I like building through the draft expensive free agency sometimes gets you stuck with cap problems. The Rams however got a Bobby Wagner the Bills a Von Miller ….Dallas ? Got rid of its top receiver .

 

[RonWashington]

The Eagles & Giants improving actually helps Dallas get a better reading on how building through the draft is doing . And Washington should help Dak and the offense plus Fowler adds to the defense , those are two nice veteran FA pick ups, not splashy but definitely players who have performed .