Are we just assuming the culture is good now?

[ChuckA1]

I don't see how anyone can think the culture surrounding the Cowboys is fixed, or good, or whatever. We'll see

 

[Coogiguy03]

I get where you're coming from but we might be jumping the gun on this one a little bit. The second they signed Eberflus I think it was a given that they were bringing back OSA. Them signing him to a deal instead of negotiating via the tag is a very positive sign that could free up some additional cap space for them to actually play around with free agency. I'm still not sold on the idea that they will do that, but the door seems to be cracked open.

Also I wouldnt rule out a major move like dumping a Parsons either. I dont want to put too much stock in the Titans rumor, but it didnt come from nowhere. Its also possible that moving Parsons could still be an option. That would be a major culture changer, and instantly bring in some fresh blood via the draft. He is the guy that I really struggle to see benefiting from an Eberflus defense, and its the reason i was left scratching my head when he was hired.

I'm all for the Jerry/Stephen bashing until they actually give us reason for optimism, but there is something different in the air right now....like they are feeling the pressure to do something big. Lets see if they really intend to do something big or just shine up a turd for us.

with your comment about Eberflus and Micah, it's like did they actually look at their defensive leader and try to align him with a guy that's all about getting PRESSURE,or did they just go with a guy they were comfortable with and knew. I think it's more important to pair your top player up with a coach that's known for getting the best out of his rushers

 

[thunderpimp91]

with your comment about Eberflus and Micah, it's like did they actually look at their defensive leader and try to align him with a guy that's all about getting PRESSURE,or did they just go with a guy they were comfortable with and knew. I think it's more important to pair your top player up with a coach that's known for getting the best out of his rushers

I dont disagree, and maybe Eberflus has some different plans than what he has shown in the past, we really dont know. Micah just seems like an odd fit in this defense. He was the focal point of DQs defenses here. Zimmer let him roam around the A gap. Eberflus historically doesnt bring many of these exotic looks and while he has had some good defenses he doesnt seem like the choice to maximize Micah at all.

 

[Vtwin]

It took 30 years to build the current culture. Any change in culture has to start with a tanker full of kerosene and a flick of the bic.

 

[Aven8]

The culture is hopefully changing, as it appears they let Schott pick his own staff sans Eberflus. Winning will improve the culture and hopefully the energy of the younger new coaches will help as well.

That’s why I’m adamant about bringing in Nick Bolton. He’s a damn good MLB but has won SB’s. Teach the D how to win. We need more of these types around here.

 

[nate dizzle]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

Look around the forum...they still have enough people fooled to just continue doing what they have been. Wait until @Rockport comes back this spring to tell everyone how to be a real fan. There's unfortunately enough Rockports in the world to keep the money train rolling along for Jerry and Cap'n Dipstick

 

[Proof]

Even if the players sometimes get corrupted, when we're talking culture, it's top down. So if there's any optimism (there isn't from me) it's that there's a new hc w/ a distinct vision (apparently) not that we'll be searching for new players.

 

[Ranching]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

We recently had 3, 12 wins seasons in a row. An unbiased opinion would probably be happy with being that close and OK with this approach. The many injuries this year would also give the same unbiased opinion cause for hope in a bounce back season. The Dak signing and failure to deliver on the All In promise is a humiliating to this fan base as is was on McLovin.....
So, while I am optimistic with this staff and good with bringing back a few players, I don't want Jerry to McLovin us, anymore! Drop a pair and deliver on your all in promise, Jerry!

 

[ICP]

As long as the Jones are around the culture will be questionable at best

 

[plasticman]

The Cowboys culture issues run far deeper than the commitment and attitude of the players. In many cases, I feel, they are just reacting to the environment of the franchise.

The Cowboys have a GM who treats the position like a part-time job. The #2 guy in the organization has a single credential, he is the GM's son.

Observing this, how can any player be convinced that full commitment is required? Accountability is obviously not a priority since they have had the same GM through 30 years of failing to reach a conference championship game. They must feel as though it is obviously not an important goal.

The Head Coach has little authority over who is on the team and even who should be starting. If he issues instructions or decides to sanction a player, then that player always has the option of appealing to the owner for a reversal, which they sometimes receive.

Players can be confused by what is happening within their own organization since they have at least three different individuals communicating with the media. They are not all on the same page.

The Cowboys might have the most talent in the league but it wouldn't matter because there is almost a total lack of cohesion.

Contracts are decided based on position need and not accomplishments. The reason for this is a lack of competition and/or alternatives to the player being negotiated.

The whole organization seems to have the impression that mediocrity is acceptable. A team can't win like that. They can't even understand that they are supposed to dedicate 100% to winning. No example of this commitment appears within the franchise.
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[ElGatoGrande]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

Quite the opposite IMO, nothing has changed. Sure, there's the appearance of motion when you replace the coaching staff but truth is that Jerry sets the tone, undermines the coaches, promotes the circus... the culture of the Dallas Cowboys starts and ends with him.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Are we assuming the culture is fine?

Did I miss a Jerry Jones obituary?

 

[Sheepherder]

I get where you're coming from but we might be jumping the gun on this one a little bit. The second they signed Eberflus I think it was a given that they were bringing back OSA. Them signing him to a deal instead of negotiating via the tag is a very positive sign that could free up some additional cap space for them to actually play around with free agency. I'm still not sold on the idea that they will do that, but the door seems to be cracked open.

Also I wouldnt rule out a major move like dumping a Parsons either. I dont want to put too much stock in the Titans rumor, but it didnt come from nowhere. Its also possible that moving Parsons could still be an option. That would be a major culture changer, and instantly bring in some fresh blood via the draft. He is the guy that I really struggle to see benefiting from an Eberflus defense, and its the reason i was left scratching my head when he was hired.

I'm all for the Jerry/Stephen bashing until they actually give us reason for optimism, but there is something different in the air right now....like they are feeling the pressure to do something big. Lets see if they really intend to do something big or just shine up a turd for us.

I will assume that when the Jones family no longer has anything to do with football ops. Until then.....no.

Or at the very least, hire a real GM and let the man do his job. 30 years and counting.

 

[john van brocklin]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

OK Bob, To admit that we have a problem with our culture would take the front office admitting that "they" have a problem.
This would take a level of self awareness that they have not exhibited to date.
This front office has 2 fatal flaws and both have the last name of Jones.
They dont have the ability to be quality GMs and dont want to face that reality.
Its gonna take a couple of really bad seasons and or for Jerry to no longer be in the picture for this to happen.
Buckle your seatbelts, things could get really ugly before they get better.

 

[75boyz]

My ejuhmucation degrees is in human behavior.

I think you have rightly identified past Jones human behavior Bob, and believe it will continue.

 

[Montanalo]

Culture means different things to different people and organizations.

One way to "measure" culture is end results or actual outcomes. It seems to me that most of the front office is long on talk and short on performance. Sure, they have assembled good teams and players, but their approach or strategy seems flighty, inconsistent and even a bit whimsical.

If there is one thing that defines the Cowboys under Jones is "family". JJ has created a family-like atmosphere with the players. Generally, that's not all bad. Jones, though, is like the rich uncle that shows up at a family picnic flashing a big toothy grin, a Rolex watch, a fancy car and does all the talking. A lot of flash, but not much substance.

 

[Sheepherder]

The culture is hopefully changing, as it appears they let Schott pick his own staff sans Eberflus. Winning will improve the culture and hopefully the energy of the younger new coaches will help as well.

That’s why I’m adamant about bringing in Nick Bolton. He’s a damn good MLB but has won SB’s. Teach the D how to win. We need more of these types around here.

I'm glad you brought that up. I like the guy too. He would be good for this roster.

 

[Kwyn]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

Bob, is this specifically about Osi? Are you of the opinion the Cowboys should not sign him?

If that’s the case, are you also advocating the Cowboys not extend Micah and look to trade him before he has a chance to leave?

I’m just curious which players are being kept that you feel are part of a culture problem.

 

[JoeKing]

I'm assuming nothing except the Cowboys are screwed.

 

[Bobhaze]

They look at big contracts as a reward instead of looking at it as is this player good enough going forward to validate this cap space.

And I would feel better about the players we sign if I knew what kind of team this FO is actually trying to build.

Bob, is this specifically about Osi? Are you of the opinion the Cowboys should not sign him?

If that’s the case, are you also advocating the Cowboys not extend Micah and look to trade him before he has a chance to leave?

I’m just curious which players are being kept that you feel are part of a culture problem.

No I was not necessarily thinking of the probable Osa signing. I think he’s a good (not great) DT at a position where there are gaping holes. I personally like Odighizhua as a player and person.

My question is really more about shouldn’t we look at our culture, recognize there are problems, and bring some new players in that can upgrade a position and the culture.

Would love to see some guys in here that want to win in the playoffs more than anything and losing is just unacceptable. Because I hate to say it, but the fact we have the same people in charge at the top means losing is somewhat acceptable.