Are we just assuming the culture is good now?

[zrinkill]

Im not sure who believes our culture is fine?

I mean there are several in this thread ....... along with whats left of Rockports crew.

 

[Diehardblues]

I mean there are several in this thread ....... along with whats left of Rockports crew.

I’m not sure I give much credence to a handful of homers. Lol

 

[InPhiltraitor]

And there have been others who don't see it as an issue. I think it is one of those words that is thrown out when a team loses and fans/players are looking for a reason. Instead of acknowledging the real culprit (the Joneses' poor use of free agency), we apply culture or lack of leadership or something else that is less tangible to it.

Here's Dak after that Green Bay playoff loss:
“Yeah, the culture is high honestly, and the culture is great from my standpoint. . . . My point is that’s something I’ve bragged on and took pride in,” Prescott said. “So if there’s questions of that or concerns on that, I feel attacked. I’m sure some guys in the locker room do, but at the end of the day, it’s a business, and the way that this business plays out, people don’t get exactly what they want. There’s always sourness I guess you could say somewhere. I don’t want to make anything bigger than that.”

Here's Tyler Smith:

“I mean that’s who we are,’’ left guard Tyler Smith said after a 30-14 win over Carolina. “We’re never going to quit. We’re never going to lay down for anybody. That speaks to who we are, not only as individuals, but as men and as players.

“That’s our culture. Whether other people believe it or not, we’re going to come in there and fight all day, every day, anywhere, any place, any time.’’

With respect, you’re citing perspectives from the ultimate company man, Dak Prescott, and a young player who has no frame of reference in regard to NFL locker rooms. For that matter, Dak’s only reference has been from within the Cowboy locker room as well.

What about the verbiage from two recent departures - Schultz & Hendershot. Similarities in their comments are telling.

Shultz - “The focus (in Houston) is just football, you know what I mean?”. In Dallas “…It’s literally a zoo, dude”.

Hendershot - “I just feel like when I came to Kansas City... my first experience in the NFL was the Cowboys so that's all I knew... I just feel like here it is strictly football and winning. Nothing else but just football and winning. And I feel like with the Cowboys it's a little bit more like the public image.” He went on to use to use the term “extracurriculars” in regard to activities at camp Cowboy.

Question is how much does the Cowboy environment, culture heavily influenced by Mr. Jones, affect each player and to what degree?

I contend that you have to be in the proper head space to thrive in this environment, and there are those that do, but it takes a unique character. Guys like Schultz and Hendershot may have inhibited themselves to a degree due to their inability to handle what’s going on around them. Seriously, Schultz commented about people tapping on the glass as they worked out. This clearly bothered him. Ask yourself, why do variables such as fans tapping on the glass in the workplace even exist? They shouldn’t.

So how did the early 90’s Cowboys handle it? To one of your previous points, gimmesix, they had talent. Damn talented and led by a coach that knew how to excel in the Cowboys environment. That combination was too rare to expect it to EVER be established again in Dallas.

I’d suggest that talent acquisition and culture change has to meet somewhere in the middle. Do the Cowboys need to procure better players - yes. Do they need a paradigm shift in how to cultivate a winning culture - yes.

So, to the question of, “can you assume the culture is good now?” Why would you? Until these guys shut their mouths and close the doors to let this coaching staff do what they need to do, this is still just ‘The Jerry Show’ starring Booger & Bozo.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

With respect, you’re citing perspectives from the ultimate company man, Dak Prescott, and a young player who has no frame of reference in regard to NFL locker rooms. For that matter, Dak’s only reference has been from within the Cowboy locker room as well.

What about the verbiage from two recent departures - Schultz & Hendershot. Similarities in their comments are telling.

Shultz - “The focus (in Houston) is just football, you know what I mean?”. In Dallas “…It’s literally a zoo, dude”.

Hendershot - “I just feel like when I came to Kansas City... my first experience in the NFL was the Cowboys so that's all I knew... I just feel like here it is strictly football and winning. Nothing else but just football and winning. And I feel like with the Cowboys it's a little bit more like the public image.” He went on to use to use the term “extracurriculars” in regard to activities at camp Cowboy.

Question is how much does the Cowboy environment, culture heavily influenced by Mr. Jones, affect each player and to what degree?

I contend that you have to be in the proper head space to thrive in this environment, and there are those that do, but it takes a unique character. Guys like Schultz and Hendershot may have inhibited themselves to a degree due to their inability to handle what’s going on around them. Seriously, Schultz commented about people tapping on the glass as they worked out. This clearly bothered him. Ask yourself, why do variables such as fans tapping on the glass in the workplace even exist? They shouldn’t.

So how did the early 90’s Cowboys handle it? To one of your previous points, gimmesix, they had talent. Damn talented and led by a coach that knew how to excel in the Cowboys environment. That combination was too rare to expect it to EVER be established again in Dallas.

I’d suggest that talent acquisition and culture change has to meet somewhere in the middle. Do the Cowboys need to procure better players - yes. Do they need a paradigm shift in how to cultivate a winning culture - yes.

So, to the question of, “can you assume the culture is good now?” Why would you? Until these guys shut their mouths and close the doors to let this coaching staff do what they need to do, this is still just ‘The Jerry Show’ starring Booger & Bozo.

Beautifully written.....

 

[Bobhaze]

With respect, you’re citing perspectives from the ultimate company man, Dak Prescott, and a young player who has no frame of reference in regard to NFL locker rooms. For that matter, Dak’s only reference has been from within the Cowboy locker room as well.

What about the verbiage from two recent departures - Schultz & Hendershot. Similarities in their comments are telling.

Shultz - “The focus (in Houston) is just football, you know what I mean?”. In Dallas “…It’s literally a zoo, dude”.

Hendershot - “I just feel like when I came to Kansas City... my first experience in the NFL was the Cowboys so that's all I knew... I just feel like here it is strictly football and winning. Nothing else but just football and winning. And I feel like with the Cowboys it's a little bit more like the public image.” He went on to use to use the term “extracurriculars” in regard to activities at camp Cowboy.

Question is how much does the Cowboy environment, culture heavily influenced by Mr. Jones, affect each player and to what degree?

I contend that you have to be in the proper head space to thrive in this environment, and there are those that do, but it takes a unique character. Guys like Schultz and Hendershot may have inhibited themselves to a degree due to their inability to handle what’s going on around them. Seriously, Schultz commented about people tapping on the glass as they worked out. This clearly bothered him. Ask yourself, why do variables such as fans tapping on the glass in the workplace even exist? They shouldn’t.

So how did the early 90’s Cowboys handle it? To one of your previous points, gimmesix, they had talent. Damn talented and led by a coach that knew how to excel in the Cowboys environment. That combination was too rare to expect it to EVER be established again in Dallas.

I’d suggest that talent acquisition and culture change has to meet somewhere in the middle. Do the Cowboys need to procure better players - yes. Do they need a paradigm shift in how to cultivate a winning culture - yes.

So, to the question of, “can you assume the culture is good now?” Why would you? Until these guys shut their mouths and close the doors to let this coaching staff do what they need to do, this is still just ‘The Jerry Show’ starring Booger & Bozo.

Outstanding post. Very well said.

 

[beware_d-ware]

The culture is literally just the same old Jerry complacency. Your two playcallers, Schotty and Eberflus, were 100% Jerry comfort hires. One of Schotty's stated goals is to keep everything smooth for Dak.

Taken on its own, I don't mind paying Osa. He's a good player, But the bigger picture is that this team is doing more of what has continually failed.

 

[Hadenough]

Yeah I'm a massive Parsons fan (at least when he isnt podcasting) but he is the one guy you can actually move on from and get enough pieces back overhaul your organization. Getting his projected money off the books also helps if the Cowboys change their stance on free agency.

It's funny because I think if there is one guy that could change the culture by standing up to Jerry and being a voice it's Parsons.

 

[thunderpimp91]

It's funny because I think if there is one guy that could change the culture by standing up to Jerry and being a voice it's Parsons.

I don’t have a huge issue with that thought process either. Moving parsons or not has very valid arguments on both sides. To me it just depends on how many 1st rounders some team is willing to put up.

 

[Wildcat711]

It's funny because I think if there is one guy that could change the culture by standing up to Jerry and being a voice it's Parsons.

Parsons did speak about culture and intimated its not good with his tweet to Dez.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I don’t have a huge issue with that thought process either. Moving parsons or not has very valid arguments on both sides. To me it just depends on how many 1st rounders some team is willing to put up.

This is what I struggle with. If Dallas gets two 1sts for Parsons, they will have to use one of them to draft his replacement. There is no guarantee the replacement will be Parsons 2.0. So then you just keep throwing out darts in the draft trying to replace an elite pass rusher when you can just pay Parsons and build the defense around him.

If this team was doing a total rebuild-something they aren't doing given the money they've already given Dak, Lamb, and now Osa- I could see a Parsons trade. But I still think this team wants to win now and aren't willing to blow it up (yet).

 

[DandyDon52]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really an complished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

They have to sign some of their guys, and that should be done before FA starts, like what
they are doing now.
It SEEMS like they are gearing up to do some shopping in FA ! Restructuring dak and lambs contracts etc.

This could be a interesting FA period, more so than any in recent memory, as phil and wash,
have $ and will be shopping, and now dallas has $ and will be shopping.
I dont think this year has that many good FA though, that is maybe the only down side.

I do think dallas should draft a young RB, not get a FA who is half wore out.

As for the culture that takes time, and part of it is if the cowboys do shop in FA, and
will let the players know hey we are trying, then a good draft, then it is up to shot to carry
on with that and tell team we are in win now mode, not a year from now.

But surprisingly jerry is looking like he will do his part, so if he does, then maybe shot can get the culure changed enough to make a difference around TC and start of season.

 

[kskboys]

No, we are not.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don’t have a huge issue with that thought process either. Moving parsons or not has very valid arguments on both sides. To me it just depends on how many 1st rounders some team is willing to put up.

That would be zero.

 

[shabazz]

If our favorite team was coming off a nice run of playoff wins over the last decade, I would be glad to see our front office and coaching staff craft our roster around keeping some key players that have been most influential in a bunch of playoff wins.

Problem is we have 2 wild card wins the last decade and a culture that has been questioned by those both inside and outside of this organization as being soft and not focused fully on winning football games.

Serious question- So why would this organization- almost yearly - decide the most important free agents to sign are “our guys”? Our guys who haven’t really accomplished that much. Are we trying to keep the same culture and performance from “our guys” why would expect the results it to get any better?

Put another way, are we assuming “our culture is fine”? Is our FO really just convinced that this three decade playoff drought is just bad luck?

Because if there’s no learning or understanding about what’s wrong with this organization, how are we supposed to “believe” we have righted the ship in the right direction?

I’m hoping we have a great draft and sign some impactful FAs. But what about this team’s culture? Doesn’t it need addressing too?

One of two things will have to happen to for real culture change.

1. The FO relinquishes control and hires a proven outsider as a GM that can hire and fire

Or

2. The next HC has TOTAL autonomy when it comes to running this franchise as he sees fit with no interference.

 

[Bobhaze]

One of two things will have to happen to for real culture change.

1. The FO relinquishes control and hires a proven outsider as a GM that can hire and fire

Or

2. The next HC has TOTAL autonomy when it comes to running this franchise as he sees fit with no interference.

100%!

 

[CCBoy]

I’m not sure I give much credence to a handful of homers. Lol

They talk reason but with trust in loyalty and support. You are lazy here and claim being smarter as well. Homer is an insult that you have an abundance of as well.

 

[CCBoy]

Outstanding post. Very well said.

A leader has to have confidence and is a positional character strength beyond complaining.

 

[bottleKids]

It all starts with the head coach in terms of culture. Lions and Dan Campbell come to mind.

 

[CCBoy]

It all starts with the head coach in terms of culture. Lions and Dan Campbell come to mind.

The first two, Odighizuwa and Lamb, have already freed up about $20 million, and more money is coming, which can be used to fill out the roster.

 

[CCBoy]

The thing for a fan is objectivity.
How is objectivity in a current observation with a 30 year set point...mention communist now.