Are we living witnesses of a new era, or a new legend?

[cowboys19]

Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas also.

good oline
very good running backs
great wr's/te
very good defense
very good special teams


Did Montana have the QB skills of Marino?
Does Brady have the QB skills of Manning?

nope, they didn't but the reason why most think Montana, and Brady are above those guys are because of the situation they were in. Teams win super bowls not qb's.

super bowl wins elevate a very good qb to a great qb in the media.

if Brady was picked by the Arizona cardinals, where would Brady be now? He sure as hell won't have a super bowl

It takes more than talent to be a great qb, and it looks like Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas

JMHO

 

[Juke99]

By struggling you mean that you would have liked for him to have suffered more? To have had more bad games? etc?

Also Juke, you never saw that from the other QBs we had like Quincy etc?
I am very impressed on how confident you are with this guy!

Hey, I'd love it if he never struggles. I'm just saying that it would make me feel like I'm not dreaming this IF he struggled.

I really didn't like QC's game from day one.

Even a guy like Hogeboom, who was a flash in the pan, wasn't like this.

It just looks like the game is in slow motion for Romo. AND his accuracy and release are great.

But now, to answer your question, the only thing I've seen like this was Marino's first year...Warner maybe.

But there is just something different about this kid.

 

[Darkhound]

Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas also.

good oline
very good running backs
great wr's/te
very good defense
very good special teams


Did Montana have the QB skills of Marino?
Does Brady have the QB skills of Manning?

nope, they didn't but the reason why most think Montana, and Brady are above those guys are because of the situation they were in. Teams win super bowls not qb's.

super bowl wins elevate a very good qb to a great qb in the media.

if Brady was picked by the Arizona cardinals, where would Brady be now? He sure as hell won't have a super bowl

It takes more than talent to be a great qb, and it looks like Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas

JMHO

Well, but you also need a good a good QB. Just like how Drew Bledsoe had the same tools, and did not perform as good as Romo is.

Juke, I acknowledge that you have ALOT MORE NFL experience than I do. I hope you share some of your Cowboys memories, it would be interesting to read!

I just think, and realized show this franchise, the DALLAS COWBOYS, were born with the star, that very same star that identifies us. We were born to be winners, and I guess Romo will bring back another golden era. What do you think?

Juke, also.... when you saw Warners 1st season, you mentioned you were also impressed right? IIRC he was older , much older than Romo when he started right? And i take it that the injuries finished warner, or was it just that his magic faded away?

 

[LaTunaNostra]

While I'm very pleased with the way Romo has been playing, I won't be fully convinced until he plays at a consistently high level for two or three seasons. It seems these days there are always QBs who have a good season or two only to fade into obscurity or medicority.

Yes, well said, and agreed.

But when you scratch some of those one or two year wonders at QB, you see their initial success was not qualitatively the same as Tony's.

You get amazing years out of very good young qbs like Rothlisberger that somewhat belie their true developmental level because they are driving a Ferrari-engined bus. (and Pitts is the breeding ground for one-year wonders, from Kordell to the resurgent Maddox...I don't think that is anywhere near the case with Roth..but he's not developmentally amazing, not in the least, imo).

And then you get what amount to fantastic fluke seasons out of guys like Bill's old protege Ray Lucas, who benefited from careful management and the 'surprise' factor - once DCs got Ray Ray on enough tape, it was pretty much over.

And a whole lotta young qbs who fall in between Roth and Ray...the Voleks of the league, who are the one-two year Golden Boys.

Tony, however, is comparable to only Tom Brady in the past few years.

In terms of field vision, decision making, speed of reaction, sound and immediate instinct, week-to-week skills integration, game management, leadership.

Imho, Romo is not a lucky qb on a good team, not a bus driver on a great one, not an unknown on a mediocre team benefiting from insufficient scouting - and on a lesser all-around team than the Pats in 2001, he is demonstrating a faster learning curve than even Tom did that year. And I was watching very intently.

I share your concerns- absolutely.

But the WAY TR is winning and developing is putting my fears to rest.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I grew up watching Roger the Dodger,, then White, then a Hogeboom (sp), then Aikman.. the all the flops since.. The worst of the Bunch to me has been QC,, without a doubt.

I am very excited to see Romo performing so well,, but I am still not 100% sold just yet.. 99.9 though The kid seems to really understand the game, the scheme, and what the D is trying to do.. that is more than half the battle, all QB in this league can throw the ball, but knowing where to throw before you snap the ball is what seperates QB's like Manning, Brady from people like QC, and now bledsoe..

I am glad BP had the forsight to bring this kid along slowly and let him develop. All the wasted time with QB's like Vinny and Bledsoe, seems so worth it now.

On his skill set, I don't remember any of the past great QB of the Boys that had this quick of a release. And his pocket awareness seems to rival Roger, and that is saying something. I think his best asset is his brain and being able to understand the D. I will have to see him succeed on a day when he is not having a great game and is getting beat up some.. which will come, maybe not this year.. but it will come.

All in all, I am very excited about the future of the Cowboys as it stands today.. Much more than I was 5 weeks ago.

 

[Darkhound]

Which now brings a bigger question...

Will Romo have a competitive team around him for years to come?
Will Julius remain here?
Will Barber remain?
WILL TO REMAIN?
What about Glenn, and witten, and newman, and roy?

He needs to have a good team~

 

[cowboys19]

Which now brings a bigger question...

Will Romo have a competitive team around him for years to come?
Will Julius remain here?
Will Barber remain?
WILL TO REMAIN?
What about Glenn, and witten, and newman, and roy?

He needs to have a good team~

As long as Bill is coaching this team, we will have plenty of talent. The guy is a master at finding talent

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Which now brings a bigger question...

Will Romo have a competitive team around him for years to come?
Will Julius remain here?
Will Barber remain?
WILL TO REMAIN?
What about Glenn, and witten, and newman, and roy?

He needs to have a good team~

Well, no one has the answer to whether TR will have a competitive team around him for years to come - few get that luxury these days.

He'll be skills-position set for awhile with Witten, Jones and Barber, tho.

It's great he's had two vet receivers this season to help him transition...much easier road to hoe for a young qb with wideouts with Glenn's and Owens' experience.

But I also think it's imperative to draft a stud wideout to groom in tandem with Tony, much as Irvin developed alongside Aikman.

That'll come in time.

 

[Darkhound]

then long live the trandition of Good QBs in our Team.
Seriously guys, how many teams can claim to have had that MANY great QBs?

SF: Montana and Young
Miami: Marino
Colts: Unitas, Manning
Cowboys, White, Staubach, Meredith,Aikman

This should be interesting to watch. I cant wait for the rest of the season to be over!

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I cant wait for the rest of the season to be over!

I can.

Savor each and every second of the rest of this season is my advice. Especially each moment of Tony's development.

Nothing but nothing is guaranteed for the future.

 

[Darkhound]

It will be amazing, one day, on the far future , tobe sharing our mermories here, on this community, on how we have Tony Romo emerge! Let us hope our faith and hopes on this kid are not just a fantasy!

 

[Cbz40]

Whether it be a New Era or Legend.......I think we may be witnessing at the very least a storybook season. The ending hasn't been written yet so we will have to wait and let the ending play itself out.

Having had the honor of seeing all of our great ones....I must say none, that's right none, have ever made such a splash as Mr Romo.

I'll make this prediction....if Tony Romo is indeed the beginning of a new era, and I think he is, he will become a new legend.

 

[Darkhound]

Guys.... all of us cant be wrong. We are all agreeing on something, we all agree that Romo has what it takes. This seems to be real.

I am a relatively new member of this community so I ask you this:

Back in the days of Quincy, or Hutchinson, were opinions divided here for those players, or did everyone hated them?

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Back to one of the original questions, there are quite a few reasons he wasn't drafted. First off, small school. Second off, he doesn't really have intangibles that you can measure at a workout or at the combine. If you can't measure the intangibles and no one has seen him play due to the small school, it's tough to use a pick on him. Also, back when he came out, he sure didn't have this kind of accuracy and his arm strength is about average.

If you add all that together, you get a guy who is projected low in the draft with the potential to go undrafted and that's exactly what happened.

Now, you have him all these years later having been coached from day one and never being thrown to the wolves to learn bad habits and you have what appears to be a winning combination. He could have gone through all these growing pains and each time he had a coach right there with him to coach him through it without ever having to just "wing it". It really turned out to be the perfect situation.

 

[Clove]

God truly is a Cowboys fan. We have been blessed with some awesome quarterbacks through-out history, and the legend continues.

I'm like Juke. I watched Staubach, but I was pre-teen in the 70s. I loved Danny White and was sad that we we came so close in the early 80s, and couldn't get it done. The Aikman Era was wonderful, and I loved Aikmans ice water veins and his accuracy.

But this Romo cat is a different breed. He has this special ability to completely take over a game. That game yesterday was like him playing against peewee defenders. You blitz him, so what.. He runs away from the blitz and nails a guy 40 yards down field.

If you want to go in pure coverage, that's fine with him. Just gives him more time to find Witten or pop it to Barber while trying to scramble, or atleast make you think he's going to scramble.

His antics at the line, yesterday when he turned to his right and said something to Barber, then at the snap, he quickly fired that slant to TO for a touch down. Unbelievable. All along, you have no clue that a slant was coming, the defense is completely defensless.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Guys.... all of us cant be wrong. We are all agreeing on something, we all agree that Romo has what it takes. This seems to be real.

I am a relatively new member of this community so I ask you this:

Back in the days of Quincy, or Hutchinson, were opinions divided here for those players, or did everyone hated them?

I was excited to see Hutchinson start and he had those moments where you'd see his arm strength. That's all he had though. The game never seemed to come to him, it seemed to run over him.

I pulled for Quincy because he was the underdog. I wanted him to succeed just because so many didn't think he could. Quincy had moments where he looked like an NFL quarterback surrounded by moments where he looked like the game was just too much for him.

Neither showed ANYTHING compared to what Romo has shown. Nothing. Not the accuracy, the game management, the peresonality, how the team responds to them, etc. Nothing in comparison.

 

[Angus]

Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas also.

good oline
very good running backs
great wr's/te
very good defense
very good special teams


Did Montana have the QB skills of Marino?
Does Brady have the QB skills of Manning?

nope, they didn't but the reason why most think Montana, and Brady are above those guys are because of the situation they were in. Teams win super bowls not qb's.

super bowl wins elevate a very good qb to a great qb in the media.

if Brady was picked by the Arizona cardinals, where would Brady be now? He sure as hell won't have a super bowl

It takes more than talent to be a great qb, and it looks like Romo is in a great situation here in Dallas

JMHO

Very good observations. But you must credit Romo for seeing the potential when he opted for Dallas even though he could have gone several other places for more money as an undrafted free agent.

 

[Angus]

As long as Bill is coaching this team, we will have plenty of talent. The guy is a master at finding talent

Along with Ireland.

 

[lspain1]

I also saw the advent of Staubach, and White, and on to Aikman. Nothing ever started out like what we are seeing this season. I really do find myself waiting for the bubble to burst. On the road against the mouthy NYFG on Dec. 3 is another test, up against a decent attacking defense. The tools Romo seems to bring strike me as difficult to defend even though he is helped by the skill folks around him. A special...special season if it goes well from here. We'll see.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

The reasons he's been on the bench was because he was very raw coming out of school. He used to spray the ball around the field in camp. Very erratic. During yesterday's broadcast, they said he used to not have to read defenses in college.

Remember his 3-for-11, 2 INT performance in the '04 preseason against Houston?

So that's why he's been on the bench. Simply put, he wasn't developed or instantaneously good coming out of college -- likely the reason he went undrafted. But, as we see now, the tools were there. He can throw. He can run. He can lead. He can win. He wasn't quite the surprise he's being billed as. A lot of draft pundits said to keep an eye on him as a late-round or undrafted player. And Parcells (and Payton) groomed him the last three-and-a-half years. This wasn't an accident.

On the nose, Dale.