Are we the fans to blame?

[CATCH17]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

 

[Doomsday101]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it's cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

I would always like to see our fans loud but I don't think fans are to blame for any past failures.

 

[visionary]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

I know I blame you every time we miss the playoffs

 

[YosemiteSam]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

We? No. You? Possibly.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

Here's the thing.

Could a raucous crowd have caused a game changing fumble? Yeah sure.... But who knows...

I blame the players.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Here's the thing.

Could a raucous crowd have caused a game changing fumble? Yeah sure.... But who knows...

I blame the player = Romo.

 

[DallasEast]

Are the fans to blame? No.

Could some fans had supported the team more strongly before, during and after the team missed the playoffs? Yes but that has nothing to do with the playoff misses.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

No just you are to blame. You are to blame for thinking in terms of the blame paradigm.

 

[CATCH17]

I know I blame you every time we miss the playoffs

I do too.

I usually think it's my shirt or socks that I put on or something weird.

 

[xwalker]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

When I've been to a game at Jerry World, the fans were putting effort into cheering.

The issues, IMO, are:

1. The sound system is so loud between plays that the fans lose the feel of the game. I've been to college games where you could close you eyes an know what is happening based on the crowd; however, at Jerry World, the fans can't compete with the sound system. The sound system has to be turned off when the offense is in the huddle and during the play. The noise goes from what feels like 200 decibels with the sound system on, to 100 decibels when it is off and it is crowd noise only. When you are cheering and the sound is turned on after the play, you lose the incentive to cheer because you literally can't hear yourself or other fans over the sound system. The natural ebb and tide of the cheering is ruined by the sound system. A 747 could crash in the parking lot and you would not be able to hear it when Jerry's sound system is on.

2. How many opponent fans are in attendance affects the crowd noise issue. Opponent fans want to go to Jerry World for the experience. It's like going to Disney World. I don't know how it could happen, but I would like to sit in a section without any opponent fans, kind of like at High School games.

3. The size and acoustics of the building may limit the fan noise even if other issues were resolved. I think some stadiums have a natural amplification of the crown noise like an amphitheater; however, I think Jerry world may have the opposite effect.

4. Emotionally, by the end of games I'm so drained by Jerry's sound system that the only thing I want is some peace and quiet. It's hard to give max cheering effort because of it. Going to the loudest stadium in terms of fan noise would be like peace and quiet compared to Jerry's sound system. By the end of the game I'm begging for the 120 dB of Seattle home games over Jerry's 200 dB sound system.

5. Crown noise might be overrated in terms of Home Field advantage. Texas Stadium didn't have the greatest crowd noise in the early nineties, but the Cowboys still won 3 Super Bowls in that time frame. Seattle reportedly has the best home field advantage, but they didn't win until they had a good team.

6. I think the Cowboys fans actually appear to be cheering more now than they did in the Landry era at Texas stadium in the days of fur coats and all of that, but the above mentioned issues prevent it from being effective.

Conclusion: It's Jerry's fault, not the fan's fault.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Bored with a random question.

Are we the fans to blame for some of our recent playoff misses.

Some of those years where we missed the playoffs by 1 game do you think having a homefield advantage could have changed the outcomes of those seasons and at least made us 1 game better?

Are we failing our team by how bad of a home field advantage we give the Cowboys to play in to the point that it has cost us Division Titles and Playoff appearances?

No, the players being constant underachievers are to blame for the playoff losses.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

When I've been to a game at Jerry World, the fans were putting effort into cheering.

The issues, IMO, are:

1. The sound system is so loud between plays that the fans lose the feel of the game. I've been to college games where you could close you eyes an know what is happening based on the crowd; however, at Jerry World, the fans can't compete with the sound system. The sound system has to be turned off when the offense is in the huddle and during the play. The noise goes from what feels like 200 decibels with the sound system on, to 100 decibels when it is off and it is crowd noise only. When you are cheering and the sound is turned on after the play, you lose the incentive to cheer because you literally can't hear yourself or other fans over the sound system. The natural ebb and tide of the cheering is ruined by the sound system. A 747 could crash in the parking lot and you would not be able to hear it when Jerry's sound system is on.

2. How many opponent fans are in attendance affects the crowd noise issue. Opponent fans want to go to Jerry World for the experience. It's like going to Disney World. I don't know how it could happen, but I would like to sit in a section without any opponent fans, kind of like at High School games.

3. The size and acoustics of the building may limit the fan noise even if other issues were resolved. I think some stadiums have a natural amplification of the crown noise like an amphitheater; however, I think Jerry world may have the opposite effect.

4. Emotionally, by the end of games I'm so drained by Jerry's sound system that the only thing I want is some peace and quiet. It's hard to give max cheering effort because of it. Going to the loudest stadium in terms of fan noise would be like peace and quiet compared to Jerry's sound system. By the end of the game I'm begging for the 120 dB of Seattle home games over Jerry's 200 dB sound system.

5. Crown noise might be overrated in terms of Home Field advantage. Texas Stadium didn't have the greatest crowd noise in the early nineties, but the Cowboys still won 3 Super Bowls in that time frame. Seattle reportedly has the best home field advantage, but they didn't win until they had a good team.

6. I think the Cowboys fans actually appear to be cheering more now than they did in the Landry era at Texas stadium in the days of fur coats and all of that, but the above mentioned issues prevent it from being effective.

Conclusion: It's Jerry's fault, not the fan's fault.

So would you trade Travis Frederick for a new sound system?

 

[BigStar]

When I've been to a game at Jerry World, the fans were putting effort into cheering.

The issues, IMO, are:

1. The sound system is so loud between plays that the fans lose the feel of the game. I've been to college games where you could close you eyes an know what is happening based on the crowd; however, at Jerry World, the fans can't compete with the sound system. The sound system has to be turned off when the offense is in the huddle and during the play. The noise goes from what feels like 200 decibels with the sound system on, to 100 decibels when it is off and it is crowd noise only. When you are cheering and the sound is turned on after the play, you lose the incentive to cheer because you literally can't hear yourself or other fans over the sound system. The natural ebb and tide of the cheering is ruined by the sound system. A 747 could crash in the parking lot and you would not be able to hear it when Jerry's sound system is on.

2. How many opponent fans are in attendance affects the crowd noise issue. Opponent fans want to go to Jerry World for the experience. It's like going to Disney World. I don't know how it could happen, but I would like to sit in a section without any opponent fans, kind of like at High School games.

3. The size and acoustics of the building may limit the fan noise even if other issues were resolved. I think some stadiums have a natural amplification of the crown noise like an amphitheater; however, I think Jerry world may have the opposite effect.

4. Emotionally, by the end of games I'm so drained by Jerry's sound system that the only thing I want is some peace and quiet. It's hard to give max cheering effort because of it. Going to the loudest stadium in terms of fan noise would be like peace and quiet compared to Jerry's sound system. By the end of the game I'm begging for the 120 dB of Seattle home games over Jerry's 200 dB sound system.

5. Crown noise might be overrated in terms of Home Field advantage. Texas Stadium didn't have the greatest crowd noise in the early nineties, but the Cowboys still won 3 Super Bowls in that time frame. Seattle reportedly has the best home field advantage, but they didn't win until they had a good team.

6. I think the Cowboys fans actually appear to be cheering more now than they did in the Landry era at Texas stadium in the days of fur coats and all of that, but the above mentioned issues prevent it from being effective.

Conclusion: It's Jerry's fault, not the fan's fault.

This is actually spot on and should be forwarded to Charlotte. (constructive criticism instead of usual = fans should be more raucous, etc.)

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I left the playoff game with no voice. Stadium was super loud

 

[birdwells1]

Yeah I went to the Indy game and it was pretty loud.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think there is certainly something to it, that this team doesn't have much success at home compared to other teams, but like with most things I think you have to dig deeper.

I think our lack of homefield success has a lot to do with the parity within the NFC East.

If you look at the Giants, you can see that Eli Manning also doesn't have a much better record at home than he does away. In division where you play much lesser teams consistently teams with above average quarterbacks tend to distance themselves from other teams, especially when playing at home.

I think the defense also plays a huge factor in that. Someone mentioned how difficult it is to beat the Seahawks at home, and that this was really only the case after they got home. I think that's very true. I think you have to look at some numbers there. The Seahawks allowed about the same amount of points on defense when home and away. And if you look at Russell Wilson's career splits, while he has been a bit better at home than away, it doesn't really explain the huge difference in win percentage.

I think there are some interesting things. That we averaged more points per game away than we did at home. I think that is something that has to be looked into, but at the same time, just off the surface you can look at a few games where Romo wasn't healthy and we just happened to be playing at home.

If you look at Romo's career splits his home vs away is nearly identical, but he has thrown 20 more interceptions at home than he has away.

I think this team needs to find its killer instinct going forward, and I think with a dominating defense we will be able to do that.

I think what you have to look at is the fact that Romo has had to be perfect in order for us to win games. We have a losing record with Romo in both December and October despite Romo having a 90+ quarterback rating in both months.

People said Romo doing less allowed us to win last year, and that's misleading. In reality the defense was taken out of the equation to a larger degree because they weren't on the field as much. I think a defense that can win with an aggressive passing offense that we had in the past will allow us to put teams away a lot easier.

I think we're going to be challenged in our first 4 games without Hardy and McClain (assuming Hardy doesn't get his suspension further reduced), but after that I think this defense comes on strong.

I think this team wins the super bowl next year. Easily the most complete team I've seen, and that includes the running backs who I have a lot more faith in than most.

 

[DandyDon52]

When I've been to a game at Jerry World, the fans were putting effort into cheering.

The issues, IMO, are:

1. The sound system is so loud between plays that the fans lose the feel of the game. I've been to college games where you could close you eyes an know what is happening based on the crowd; however, at Jerry World, the fans can't compete with the sound system. The sound system has to be turned off when the offense is in the huddle and during the play. The noise goes from what feels like 200 decibels with the sound system on, to 100 decibels when it is off and it is crowd noise only. When you are cheering and the sound is turned on after the play, you lose the incentive to cheer because you literally can't hear yourself or other fans over the sound system. The natural ebb and tide of the cheering is ruined by the sound system. A 747 could crash in the parking lot and you would not be able to hear it when Jerry's sound system is on.

2. How many opponent fans are in attendance affects the crowd noise issue. Opponent fans want to go to Jerry World for the experience. It's like going to Disney World. I don't know how it could happen, but I would like to sit in a section without any opponent fans, kind of like at High School games.

3. The size and acoustics of the building may limit the fan noise even if other issues were resolved. I think some stadiums have a natural amplification of the crown noise like an amphitheater; however, I think Jerry world may have the opposite effect.

4. Emotionally, by the end of games I'm so drained by Jerry's sound system that the only thing I want is some peace and quiet. It's hard to give max cheering effort because of it. Going to the loudest stadium in terms of fan noise would be like peace and quiet compared to Jerry's sound system. By the end of the game I'm begging for the 120 dB of Seattle home games over Jerry's 200 dB sound system.

5. Crown noise might be overrated in terms of Home Field advantage. Texas Stadium didn't have the greatest crowd noise in the early nineties, but the Cowboys still won 3 Super Bowls in that time frame. Seattle reportedly has the best home field advantage, but they didn't win until they had a good team.

6. I think the Cowboys fans actually appear to be cheering more now than they did in the Landry era at Texas stadium in the days of fur coats and all of that, but the above mentioned issues prevent it from being effective.

Conclusion: It's Jerry's fault, not the fan's fault.

good post, I have never been there, and it is hard to tell on tv.
one thing that also is stupid is the sounds played on turnovers ! lol sounds like safety beeps and sounds on vehicles like back hoes etc.
I would rather have no sound system and no music played , just crowd noise, and maybe local high school bands with the drums,
I dont care to mix music with a football game. and from the way you say it is , makes me not want to go to a game.

But @ OP , I think with the right crowd noise of well trained fans could help win 1-2 games a year.
If they make it loud every play other team has the ball and quiet for cowboys.
Seattle fans are great at that and they do help their team win games,

 

[BAZ]

I'm not but you are.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

fan noise and participation is a direct correlation to the product on the field. You put a quality product on the field and the fan noise and participation will be there.

A few years back, I went to the Eagles game on a very cold, raining, dreary day at the new stadium. It was a win and you're in the playoffs game, as was the atmosphere at the.stadium. It was really loud pre-game and up to the kick off. Philadelphia took the kick off and Vick marched them right down the field for a TD on the opening drive. The crowd noise died. On the Cowboys first drive, our future pro bowl center at the time, (or so some people on here argued he would be), Phil Costa almost got Romo killed on failed blitz pick up, Romo injured his hand and it was the Stephen McGee show for the rest of the game. No amount of crowd noise would have willed McGee to a win. The cowboys went on to lose the lose out and miss the playoffs.

This past year, with a better quality team, the fan noise and participation was much better and more visible. Better fans showing up? No, better product on the field.

 

[cowboy_ron]

No, it's not the fans.
Growing since 1974 when DFW airport opened and then American Airlines moved their corporate headquarters there it began a corporate mecca with other corporations moving there due to no state income tax and many other incentives that have been offered as a drawing card to a rather mild climate compared to other parts of the U.S.

Along with those moves you have many of those corporations not only adding to the local economy but have top level executives uprooting and relocating their families to DFW. When they make moves many times from the home and state that they've lived in for many years and sometimes a lifetime, their allegiance to their favorite sports teams don't change simply because of the move. By doing that you have an influx of what would have been "visiting" teams that by geographic locale are now a "home" team without the true local influence.

So when we watch games where it seems that there is a huge % of visiting fans that have taken over the stadium, there is a good chance that the "visiting" fan happens to live in the area now. It's not somuch that Cowboys fans are not making crowd noise it's just more evened out that most of the other stadiums.

Green Bay wouldn't have this problem because Green Bay is hardly a corporate mecca.