Are we using Vaughn too early?

[Coogiguy03]

5th round rookie playing early snaps in the season, there's nothing wrong with it. How do you feel he's playing so far, does he need to be used more/less in a different manner? We all want him to do well in the end, so if this leads to you bashing him, this isn't a bash thread. Please give your thoughts

 

[CCBoy]

RUNNING BACK
Tony Pollard/Rico Dowdle/Deuce Vaughn
vs.
James Conner/Keaontay Ingram

It was a grind-it-out kind of day for the Cowboys running backs last week. Pollard was fantastic in the role he played and ended the day with 109 total yards of offense with a superb catch that went for 19 yards to end the third quarter. His explosive plays really looked to demoralize the Jets defense. Rico Dowdle had some very important plays that helped the team secure first downs. Surprisingly, the player with the best yards-per-carry on the night was Deuce Vaughn with 5.3. This Cowboys backfield is talented for sure, but so far is showing to be a little lacking in consistency to be classed as completely dominant.

The best offensive weapon the Cardinals have is their starting running back, James Conner. He had a 100-yard rush game last week against the Giants and scored a touchdown. But his biggest downfall at the moment is touches, he’s getting overloaded. He now has 37 rush attempts and five receptions in the first two games, so you have to wonder how quickly he’ll burn out as this week’s game and season progresses. Behind Conner is rookie running back Keaontay Ingram, who has seven rush attempts for an average of 0.3 yards per carry. Keep an eye on Conner on the team’s practice reports, he was injured last week but was given the nod at the last minute to play. He maybe still nursing any lingering issues.

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Conclusion:
The Cowboys running back group is way deeper than the Cardinals by a mile. As far as both teams fair in running efficiency, they aren’t that far apart. The difference is the Cardinals have all their eggs in one basket with nothing behind their starter to support him. He’s also the main offensive playmaker, meaning if he goes down or fails to produce, so goes down the offense. As for the Cowboys, they have both talent and depth that are facing a below average run defense this week.
Win: Cowboys


https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...k-prescott-joshua-dobbs-ceedee-lamb-zach-ertz

 

[Crown Royal]

No. Vaughn is probably never going to be a bell cow. His ceiling is probably 10 touches per game and 15-18 snaps in the right situation. No reason to wait and all the reason to put as diverse film out there as possible so teams don't know exactly what you are doing.

 

[rambo2]

5th round rookie playing early snaps in the season, there's nothing wrong with it. How do you feel he's playing so far, does he need to be used more/less in a different manner? We all want him to do well in the end, so if this leads to you bashing him, this isn't a bash thread. Please give your thoughts

6th round, and no. They can use him at any time. Anytime that they want.

 

[Creeper]

I think the need to get Vaughn in space. Running him on sweeps like they do with Turpin is going to be a 50-50 deal. But I think they ran him early against the Jets because when they ran him against the Giants it was late in a blowout and the Giants were expecting the run. They should have been handing off to Luepke at that point. But I think they wanted to see what Vaughn could do.

I don't think the blocking was especially good on the plays where he got the ball against the Giants and Jets, with the exception of the 13 yard run around the right side which was wide open for him.

 

[The Quest for Six]

This is what I like about McCarthy, trust in his players....he has certain packages to keep his players ready and involved in the game, which also confuses defenses, not sitting on the sidelines waiting for an injury or a late game blowout to get some reps...

 

[Jumbo075]

5th round rookie playing early snaps in the season, there's nothing wrong with it. How do you feel he's playing so far, does he need to be used more/less in a different manner? We all want him to do well in the end, so if this leads to you bashing him, this isn't a bash thread. Please give your thoughts

No, he's not being used too early.

Why are you trying so hard to find something wrong with the team. Are you congenitally required to complain? Will you fall down and die if you aren't b*tching about something?

 

[big dog cowboy]

6th round, and no. They can use him at any time. Anytime that they want.

This all day!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

At the start of the season in the prediction thread I went out on a limb and said he will win OROTY. They haven't used him enough for that to happen. But those who know, KNOW, we haven't played all our cards yet. No need to at this point with the way our defense is playing. We're running a conservative offense and we're STILL at the top of the league in points. Which is why I'm very skeptical of some of our so-called fans who say that our offense needs to pick it up. Obviously they have an agenda saying things like that.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I believe you will see Mac get him into the passing game. One of those plays where he hesitates then wiggles between a couple of guys as the receivers run the defense off. Then he gets the ball and his speed and elusiveness takes over.

However, is this game coming up the one to showcase more wrinkles in this offense? I don't believe you can take any team lightly, but if there is one, these cards should be the ones.

And if Mac plays it save and conservative, using the running game to win the day, will there be multiple threads bemoaning the lack of a big time passing game? You know the talking heads will suggest that is the case.

 

[OmerV]

5th round rookie playing early snaps in the season, there's nothing wrong with it. How do you feel he's playing so far, does he need to be used more/less in a different manner? We all want him to do well in the end, so if this leads to you bashing him, this isn't a bash thread. Please give your thoughts

I've seen this come up several times, but it was one game. No reason to treat it as a pattern. We don't know if the Cowboys will use him that early again, or if they do if he will be more effective. For now I just don't see that it's worth discussion

 

[CowboysRule]

I think they can and should use him at any point in the game. They need to do more to try and get him to the outside and out in space though. He's too small to continually try and run him up the middle. He's not going to move that pile.

 

[HungryLion]

Vaughn had 6 touches against the jets. That’s a pretty good number. I think some guys it coild
Jump up a bit higher to 10 or so.

But 6 touches was good. Vaughn made a couple plays with those touches and kept the chains moving.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

There are young players that the team would really like to get production out of this year, whether it's more weapons or depth they can benefit by getting these guys up to speed, and the sooner the better! Some really tough stretches of games coming up quick.

 

[DallasEast]

Too early is always better than too late IF a player is considered an offensive weapon. I believe the McCarthy & Co. see Deuce Vaughn as an offensive weapon to be taken full advantage of in certain situations. If that is true, I completely agree with their assessment. Also, I *think* Vaughn is mentally mature at this early stage and will not repeat past rookie jitter mistakes, like not looking in a pass thrown in the flat and trying to run before properly securing the ball.

 

[JohnBoy]

That was my thought, yeah. Even more surprised to see him used as much as they did in the Giants game. Surprised to see him used as much as they did in the Jets game when only up a couple possessions.

Presume the coaches know more than me, that's for sure...

 

[Toro9]

Not early enough imo. Dude is electric

 

[DUO_CORE]

No: 5:27 EST is fine.

 

[conner01]

I think the need to get Vaughn in space. Running him on sweeps like they do with Turpin is going to be a 50-50 deal. But I think they ran him early against the Jets because when they ran him against the Giants it was late in a blowout and the Giants were expecting the run. They should have been handing off to Luepke at that point. But I think they wanted to see what Vaughn could do.

I don't think the blocking was especially good on the plays where he got the ball against the Giants and Jets, with the exception of the 13 yard run around the right side which was wide open for him.

Sometimes it’s about seeing what the player can but sometimes it’s about putting something on the tape for other teams to think about
His strength is gonna be in space but you have to also mix in things to keep the D honest

 

[RonnieT24]

I don't think there needs to be some magic timeframe to use Vaughan.. Ideally what you would want to see is him out there when the defense is a little tired so that you can take advantage of his explosion to the outside and his maneuverability in space. Yes that could be in the middle of the second quarter but could also be on the 15th play of a drive in the first quarter when the defense is suckin wind. I trust McCarthy to get it right.. way more than I trusted the other guy..