Are you a win now or later fan?

[CouchCoach]

I think Lawrence's deal could be an issue down the road but do you know what's down that road? Me neither.

It seems every year, I would point to the following year as the year because I saw them on this incline chart that basically ignored the real issue, the other teams on the chart. While I might see the Cowboys building toward something, so were other teams and maybe on a steeper incline.

I do not want them to address Prescott, Elliott or any other player under contract until they've exhausted all of the resources to make the run now. I am a win now fan. And it's not just because I am older than most here but that "team of the future" isn't working.

The other part of the win now mentality is to hell with the draft in 2020, do whatever is necessary in this draft, the one deep in DL, to get quality not quantity. The Cowboys need a pick to play like Vander Esch or Lord Byron, not a Charleton. They need immediate help because as this team is now, I don't see it. And the odds of immediate help at 58 are a lot worse than on day 1.

This draft is not just about needs but what is missing. If it is necessary to borrow from 2020 to impact 2019, I am all in on that. There are players in this draft that can step in and start but I do not see that at 58.

So, I know the "correct answer" is both but between the two which are you? Want to sink the 8 ball on the break or wait to set it up and take a chance on your opponent doing that?

 

[ShortRound]

Win now, and I think Jerry’s age is a motivation for the Jone’s as well.

 

[GenoT]

Now...every single season.

 

[jazzcat22]

Now and later.

But more so now, because for the past 8 years or longer we been hearing build for the future and a long run. Well I think it has been long enough. so time to win now.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm a win every game while eligible for playoffs and lose every game when mathematically eliminated from the playoffs fan.

So to answer your question....in a word....both.

 

[nightrain]

I think Lawrence's deal could be an issue down the road but do you know what's down that road? Me neither.

It seems every year, I would point to the following year as the year because I saw them on this incline chart that basically ignored the real issue, the other teams on the chart. While I might see the Cowboys building toward something, so were other teams and maybe on a steeper incline.

I do not want them to address Prescott, Elliott or any other player under contract until they've exhausted all of the resources to make the run now. I am a win now fan. And it's not just because I am older than most here but that "team of the future" isn't working.

The other part of the win now mentality is to hell with the draft in 2020, do whatever is necessary in this draft, the one deep in DL, to get quality not quantity. The Cowboys need a pick to play like Vander Esch or Lord Byron, not a Charleton. They need immediate help because as this team is now, I don't see it. And the odds of immediate help at 58 are a lot worse than on day 1.

This draft is not just about needs but what is missing. If it is necessary to borrow from 2020 to impact 2019, I am all in on that. There are players in this draft that can step in and start but I do not see that at 58.

So, I know the "correct answer" is both but between the two which are you? Want to sink the 8 ball on the break or wait to set it up and take a chance on your opponent doing that?

Dang it, Coach, win now! Now is really MUCH later case the Cowboys haven't won anything in almost a 1/4 century.

 

[CowboyStar88]

How do you think his contract will be an issue down the road?

You should always be trying to win now while still building a quality team for the future.

I think it’s interesting that some fans are a bit upset over this contract yet they were willing to give a 30 year old safety 15 million a year.

 

[HungryLion]

If you draft well and develop young talent well, the window never fully closes. Oh and very good coaching too.

The goal should be, to remain competitive every year. With only the occasional down year.

 

[visionary]

Win now, and I think Jerry’s age is a motivation for the Jone’s as well.

It is not
This off season tells us they still have no idea what it will take to win a SB

 

[dwreck27]

Now.

I would be a very happy fan if we could just win one every 10 years lol

 

[Jipper]

Win every single time...

 

[CouchCoach]

How do you think his contract will be an issue down the road?

You should always be trying to win now while still building a quality team for the future.

I think it’s interesting that some fans are a bit upset over this contract yet they were willing to give a 30 year old safety 15 million a year.

Paying that amount of money to a DE can definitely affect the future but if it's jumping 10-12M every season, it is safer.

Honestly, unless someone just digs math and playing with the numbers, why should any fan care about the cap or what they pay any player? Why don't they just super impose the cap hit for that player over their name whenever they have them in a shot?

I saw all of this angst and hand wringing about the cap and wondered 'why in the hell do we care'? There are ways to fix that every year.

 

[SHAMSzy]

i’ll take anything i can get .. win now, later, just anytime except over 20 years ago pls

 

[CouchCoach]

Now.

I would be a very happy fan if we could just win one every 10 years lol

That brings up an interesting question. Maybe a better way to ask the question than in the original post.

Here are your options. A) the team goes to the SB once in 5 years but only make the playoffs 1 other time in those 5 and has I bad season after going to the SB or B) the team gets to the playoffs 3 of those 5 seasons but not to the NFCCG but no losing seasons. On one hand they go but have to eject some talent the next season and it's a bad season and on the other the team is not experiencing any bad seasons. In other words would you settle for a trip to the Big Dance and go through 4 so so seasons?

 

[Cowboys22]

There is no later. That didn’t used to be the case but it is now. If you have a coach and a QB, you can win it all in any year if you go for it and build a team for them. I don’t think it very effective to think in terms of a long term plan or a process. You put a competent coach in charge, find a QB, draft well, and buy the pieces you need every year that your cap space will allow. That’s how I would do it. Every 7-8 years you may need a reset year or two if you need a new coach or QB or need to fix your cap situation but otherwise, I’m going for it every year.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I think Lawrence's deal could be an issue down the road but do you know what's down that road? Me neither.

It seems every year, I would point to the following year as the year because I saw them on this incline chart that basically ignored the real issue, the other teams on the chart. While I might see the Cowboys building toward something, so were other teams and maybe on a steeper incline.

I do not want them to address Prescott, Elliott or any other player under contract until they've exhausted all of the resources to make the run now. I am a win now fan. And it's not just because I am older than most here but that "team of the future" isn't working.

The other part of the win now mentality is to hell with the draft in 2020, do whatever is necessary in this draft, the one deep in DL, to get quality not quantity. The Cowboys need a pick to play like Vander Esch or Lord Byron, not a Charleton. They need immediate help because as this team is now, I don't see it. And the odds of immediate help at 58 are a lot worse than on day 1.

This draft is not just about needs but what is missing. If it is necessary to borrow from 2020 to impact 2019, I am all in on that. There are players in this draft that can step in and start but I do not see that at 58.

So, I know the "correct answer" is both but between the two which are you? Want to sink the 8 ball on the break or wait to set it up and take a chance on your opponent doing that?

The advantage in a league where GMs and HCs all mortgage the future to *win now* is to play the long game.

You can eat one marshmallow now, but if you still haven't eaten your marshmallow in fifteen minutes, I'll give you *another* one and you can eat them both.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Everyone is a win now fan. Every. Single. One.

This thread is silly

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think Lawrence's deal could be an issue down the road but do you know what's down that road? Me neither.

It seems every year, I would point to the following year as the year because I saw them on this incline chart that basically ignored the real issue, the other teams on the chart. While I might see the Cowboys building toward something, so were other teams and maybe on a steeper incline.

I do not want them to address Prescott, Elliott or any other player under contract until they've exhausted all of the resources to make the run now. I am a win now fan. And it's not just because I am older than most here but that "team of the future" isn't working.

The other part of the win now mentality is to hell with the draft in 2020, do whatever is necessary in this draft, the one deep in DL, to get quality not quantity. The Cowboys need a pick to play like Vander Esch or Lord Byron, not a Charleton. They need immediate help because as this team is now, I don't see it. And the odds of immediate help at 58 are a lot worse than on day 1.

This draft is not just about needs but what is missing. If it is necessary to borrow from 2020 to impact 2019, I am all in on that. There are players in this draft that can step in and start but I do not see that at 58.

So, I know the "correct answer" is both but between the two which are you? Want to sink the 8 ball on the break or wait to set it up and take a chance on your opponent doing that?

Long term is always the goal over short term. 90% of the time.

And people seem to think that being smart in the short term means you CANT win now. Which is completely false. What you are basically doing is keeping around your core guys and starting new every year filling in the holes while developing through the draft.

 

[CouchCoach]

Everyone is a win now fan. Every. Single. One.

This thread is silly

I do silly really well and I guess you didn't read all of the responses?

 

[CouchCoach]

Long term is always the goal over short term. 90% of the time.

And people seem to think that being smart in the short term means you CANT win now. Which is completely false. What you are basically doing is keeping around your core guys and starting new every year filling in the holes while developing through the draft.

And which teams do that really well? I can only think of one.