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AdamJT13 said:
Wrong. Art left out the key stats from the 1985 Bears' defense -- sacks, turnovers and points allowed. The 1985 Bears had 64 sacks for 483 yards in losses (compared to the 2004 Skins' 40 sacks for 245 yards in losses). Those losses resulted in a net yardage total of 4,135 yards against the 1985 Bears, compared to 4,281 against the 2004 Commanders. So already, the stats Art used to claim the 2004 Commanders were better than the 1985 Bears can be thrown out the window -- he was using gross passing yards, not net passing yards.

Then there were the 1985 Bears' 54 turnovers forced, compared to only 26 for the 2004 Commanders. And the 1985 Bears' defense allowed only 189 points, compared to 221 for the 2004 Commanders.

Also, the 1985 Bears gave up a lot of meaningless yards -- and even some meaningless points -- because they won 11 games by double-digit margins, including four games by at least 20 points. The 2004 Commanders won only six games TOTAL and only two games by double digits.


Thanks adam, I knew that. I know he knows that too. But he selectively chose the parameters of the arguement, so I thought I would turn it around on him and have a Cowboys defense be better than his elite squad.

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CowboyBlog said:
Oh yea, that has to be the same guy.

I made a few posts over there with facts. One was the ESPN rankings with them and the bears in the bottom 5 of the league.

I was killing them in the arguement that the bears almost scored on them two more times in the 2nd half and he banned me for calling someone an idiot.

All of my threads are gone.


He even sent me an email saying he was going to be on the sideline of the game Monday Night. Any truth to that?

They are affiliated with the Commanders so it may be true, which is nice - what better photo opportunity than Crayton scoring a td with Art in the background screaming "Not again!!!" :D
 

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CowboyBlog said:
LOL. --- I'm hidden. I've been around the internet for a while and dealt with a lot smarter rejects than skins fans.


I think this is the guy that banned me for calling someone an idiot. If he thinks the Commanders defense is better than the bears SB defense, then he really is a big idiot.

That was him Blog, I read the thread you're referring to and saw your posts before they were taken off. He said "that's ten" w/ a smiley face when he banned you.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Wrong. Art left out the key stats from the 1985 Bears' defense -- sacks, turnovers and points allowed. The 1985 Bears had 64 sacks for 483 yards in losses (compared to the 2004 Skins' 40 sacks for 245 yards in losses). Those losses resulted in a net yardage total of 4,135 yards against the 1985 Bears, compared to 4,281 against the 2004 Commanders. So already, the stats Art used to claim the 2004 Commanders were better than the 1985 Bears can be thrown out the window -- he was using gross passing yards, not net passing yards.

Then there were the 1985 Bears' 54 turnovers forced, compared to only 26 for the 2004 Commanders. And the 1985 Bears' defense allowed only 189 points, compared to 221 for the 2004 Commanders.

Also, the 1985 Bears gave up a lot of meaningless yards -- and even some meaningless points -- because they won 11 games by double-digit margins, including four games by at least 20 points. The 2004 Commanders won only six games TOTAL and only two games by double digits.

In all seriousness, it has long been a dream of mine for you to go on that board Adam, and debate Art statistically, since he tries to use numbers every so often to buttress his arguments. I get the feeling that it wouldn't be your style however.
 

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No, he wasn't. Art is the biggest homer on the planet. He's also completely delusonal. He thinks he is some great writer and can best anyone with his reparte.

And when he's getting "bested", he's quick to ban you... then he'll tell himself how he "won"...

Let's just say that Art has learned better than to try to match wits with somebody who actually has some game... he stays in his own little ball park, where he can manipulate the rules as he needs...
 

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CowboyBlog said:
Oh yea, that has to be the same guy.

I made a few posts over there with facts. One was the ESPN rankings with them and the bears in the bottom 5 of the league.

I was killing them in the arguement that the bears almost scored on them two more times in the 2nd half and he banned me for calling someone an idiot.

All of my threads are gone.


He even sent me an email saying he was going to be on the sideline of the game Monday Night. Any truth to that?

Perhaps, since the Commanders actually bought the extremeskins site a couple-three weeks back... IIRC, their mods were claiming that they'd be granted some impressive access as a result of that...

It's my opinion that Danny Boy bought extremeskins precisely because it's run by a sycophant like Art, who ruthlessly squashes dissenting opinions... I mean, one of the first benefits of the buyout of extremeskins was a "chat" with Danny Boy, in which he repeatedly whined about how the media distorted things about him... this is the kind of guy who would approve of the type of censorship practiced on that board...

Edit-- rereading this, I'd like to make it clear that the other mods I've met from over there are nowhere NEAR as bad as Art, in fact they're some pretty good guys IMO... but it sure seems like Art is the one on the trigger most of the time when a ban is issued... he's the corrupt sheriff of that small town, LOL...
 

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jcblanco22 said:
In all seriousness, it has long been a dream of mine for you to go on that board Adam, and debate Art statistically, since he tries to use numbers every so often to buttress his arguments. I get the feeling that it wouldn't be your style however.

Art would quickly ban Adam, even if he conducted himself like the gentleman he always does... Art can't STAND being made to look foolish...
 

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silverbear said:
Art would quickly ban Adam, even if he conducted himself like the gentleman he always does... Art can't STAND being made to look foolish...

I drift over there occasionally, and I have yet to be banned. Art just locks the thread instead.

On this latest one, he was using the GROSS passing yardage against the 1985 Bears but using the NET passing yardage against the 2004 Commanders when trying to compare the two.

We'll see if he closes the thread out of sheer embarrassment.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
I drift over there occasionally, and I have yet to be banned. Art just locks the thread instead.

On this latest one, he was using the GROSS passing yardage against the 1985 Bears but using the NET passing yardage against the 2004 Commanders when trying to compare the two.

We'll see if he closes the thread out of sheer embarrassment.

I doubt he knows what gross and net mean.
The poor guy really doesn't seem to grasp many simple concepts as well as the blatantly obvious.

He reminds of the guy sin the commercials trying to steal jerseys. I can see him hiding in a Commanders hamper full of worn jocks to grab a Portis jersey then get home and realize he didn't read the name correctly and got the fabulous Rich Parson instead. The saddest part is he'd wear that jersey around with pride announcing PArson is going to be a pro bowler ... as soon as Gibbs starts activating him for games.
 
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