Ken
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AdamJT13 said:Wrong. Art left out the key stats from the 1985 Bears' defense -- sacks, turnovers and points allowed. The 1985 Bears had 64 sacks for 483 yards in losses (compared to the 2004 Skins' 40 sacks for 245 yards in losses). Those losses resulted in a net yardage total of 4,135 yards against the 1985 Bears, compared to 4,281 against the 2004 Commanders. So already, the stats Art used to claim the 2004 Commanders were better than the 1985 Bears can be thrown out the window -- he was using gross passing yards, not net passing yards.
Then there were the 1985 Bears' 54 turnovers forced, compared to only 26 for the 2004 Commanders. And the 1985 Bears' defense allowed only 189 points, compared to 221 for the 2004 Commanders.
Also, the 1985 Bears gave up a lot of meaningless yards -- and even some meaningless points -- because they won 11 games by double-digit margins, including four games by at least 20 points. The 2004 Commanders won only six games TOTAL and only two games by double digits.
Thanks adam, I knew that. I know he knows that too. But he selectively chose the parameters of the arguement, so I thought I would turn it around on him and have a Cowboys defense be better than his elite squad.