Article: Goodell would give indemnification to Walsh for materials from Pats' days

[alancdc]

Please make this miserable for the Patriots. Please!

 

[Hoofbite]

What alternate reality do you live in?

haha. kind of what I was thinking.

I used to like and support the decisions that Goodell made but they are starting to suck more and more. How he could just let a team cheat their way to superbowls (even though before his time) and not even pursue it is a joke. Suspending roiders cause its cheating but slaps on the wrist for the most blatant act of cheating in the game.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"We had and pursued it and found nothing credible," Goodell said.
Asked why the Patriots turned over six tapes, he replied: "That's what they had. My guess is they taped over some of those from time to time ... their notes were reflective of that."

They only turned over six tapes? And Goodell actually believed that was all they had?

 

[tyke1doe]

haha. kind of what I was thinking.

I used to like and support the decisions that Goodell made but they are starting to suck more and more. How he could just let a team cheat their way to superbowls (even though before his time) and not even pursue it is a joke. Suspending roiders cause its cheating but slaps on the wrist for the most blatant act of cheating in the game.

He did pursue it. He simply said based on the tapes that the Patriots gave him there was no evidence to support that claim. He also said he would reopen the case if new evidence came to light.

And let's be serious here: The NFL is not going to strip the Patriots of their Super Bowl wins even if it finds that the Pats taped walk throughs from the Rams, Eagles or the Panthers. Goodell wouldn't do it, and no other commissioner would do it either.

It's simply not going to happen. Now if it does, I will offer a bold apology. But I seriously doubt it does. At most, the Patriots organization and Bill Belichick will face additional fines, elimination of draft picks and possibly a longer suspension for Belichick.

 

[tyke1doe]

They only turned over six tapes? And Goodell actually believed that was all they had?

I don't know the details of the investigation, how many hours were on those six tapes or which teams and what was on them. None of us does.

Furthermore, he ordered the tapes destroyed and put the onus on the Patriots to make sure that there were no more tapes out there. The fact that Walsh surfaces with the tapes - and company property, which is another matter altogether because why would one assume that a former employee would have copies of company property? - and claims to have additional information merely offers another reason to "reopen" the case.

Goodell said as far back as September that this was not a closed case, and any additional information would reopen the case.

So I can't see how he's "hiding" anything. If he were trying to "sweep it under the rug" he would have simply said, "I have issued my punishment. Case closed."

He did not. So as of now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[peplaw06]

Tyke your defense of Goodell is becoming embarrassing.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Tyke your defense of Goodell is becoming embarrassing.

"Is becoming"? :

 

[Rack]

Tyke your defense of Goodell is becoming embarrassing.

Becoming? He passed "embarrassing" a while back.

 

[tyke1doe]

Tyke your defense of Goodell is becoming embarrassing.

Embarrassing to whom?

I'm not embarrassed by it. And I don't think you should be either.

We just have a difference of opinion. And when last I checked, that was okway in a discussion forum.

 

[EPL0c0]

Goodell also said Wednesday he's willing to pursue any believable information in the Spygate case, but he simply doesn't know if any exists.

It doesn't after YOU DESTROYED IT!

mind-bogglin' Goodell's logic is...yes MMM!

 

[khiladi]

Let's play, add a quote to the picture....

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

whatever you destroy i will give you 1 million per tape

 

[trickblue]

tells me he has some interesting news and video

Which means he better be watching for this at his front door...

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

Which means he better be watching for this at his front door...

lol thats what i was thinking too

 

[Rack]

Which means he better be watching for this at his front door...

 

[dogunwo]

I am not satisfied with the fines and the loss of draft pick, but I don't think they will get the SMU death penalty either. Really, I am just happy the lost the Superbowl, did not go undefeated and made Rodney Harrison look like the little piece of crap he is along the way.

 

[VietCowboy]

mind-bogglin' Goodell's logic is...yes MMM!

your sig is hilarious

 

[peplaw06]

I remember him saying this too.
This was never a closed case.
If the new allegations prove to have validity, then the case will continue. If not, it will remain closed but pending until additional information surfaces.

I've never seen an open investigation produce such little amounts of information. We didn't hear anything about this for the better part of 6 months, until the Senate got involved.

And I like how you say, the case "will remain closed but pending..." WTH does that mean? Not to mention what you're saying completely contradicts what Goodell is saying. If it's an open investigation, then it doesn't need re-opening.

If it were a bogus investigation, then his comments about reopening the case never would have been offered either.

It goes both ways, depending on what you want to believe in this matter.

OK, now we're re-opening the case again, you know the one that's been open all along.

And how convenient that he decides to "re-open" the case after ESPN and the Senate find out about Matt Walsh. It's like he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. "Oh ****, they found out about Walsh... Case re-opened."

He did pursue it. He simply said based on the tapes that the Patriots gave him there was no evidence to support that claim. He also said he would reopen the case if new evidence came to light.

OK, so let's get this straight. He pursued this angle before. But since the Pats only provided him tapes from 2006 to 2007, there was no evidence supporting the claim that Walsh had knowledge of their practices? Yeah, I know I always expect the alleged rule breaker to turn over ALL evidence implicating them in said rule breaking.

And now that someone else has found out about Walsh, the case can be reopened? But I thought he already pursued this angle??

And let's be serious here: The NFL is not going to strip the Patriots of their Super Bowl wins even if it finds that the Pats taped walk throughs from the Rams, Eagles or the Panthers. Goodell wouldn't do it, and no other commissioner would do it either.

I don't care if they strip them of their trophies. But I can tell you that in the minds of just about every fan on the face of this planet, those titles won't mean diddley.

At most, the Patriots organization and Bill Belichick will face additional fines, elimination of draft picks and possibly a longer suspension for Belichick.

That's good enough for me. They deserve to be hit hard[er] on this.

I don't know the details of the investigation, how many hours were on those six tapes or which teams and what was on them. None of us does.

Furthermore, he ordered the tapes destroyed and put the onus on the Patriots to make sure that there were no more tapes out there.

lol... again, let's put the onus on the accused to bring forth all evidence that they in fact did it.

The fact that Walsh surfaces with the tapes - and company property, which is another matter altogether because why would one assume that a former employee would have copies of company property? - and claims to have additional information merely offers another reason to "reopen" the case.

I don't think anyone's assuming it without having reason to believe. He's implied that he has proof.

Goodell said as far back as September that this was not a closed case, and any additional information would reopen the case.

Again, if it's not closed, why does it need "re-opening?"

So I can't see how he's "hiding" anything. If he were trying to "sweep it under the rug" he would have simply said, "I have issued my punishment. Case closed."

Well he has issued punishment. That implies some type of closure. You usually don't get different stages of punishment. What are they going through a gradual punishment, or some type of punishment phase in? This year you'll lose $750k and #31, next year who knows? Depends on how I feel about it then.

Then he states that he has always reserved the right to re-open it. That definitely sounds like it's been closed to me. But maybe I'm being too literal there.

I just love that he only states that he has reserved the right to re-open it after outside sources find out about this Walsh character and Senate calls him down to Washington. So believable.

Embarrassing to whom?

I'm not embarrassed by it. And I don't think you should be either.

I'm embarrassed for you.

 

[03EBZ06]

I've defended Goodell in the past, I felt that he dealt with players who broke the league policies were handled pretty well.

However, IMO, Goodell just screwed all up with this spy-gate issue. I don't believe the penalties were adequate, I don't believe there was through investigation, I don't believe destroying the evidence was correct thing to do and I don't believe he provided adequate answers and there is an appearance of covering something up. I lost lot of respect for Goodell.

What will Goodell do IF there is a videotape of Rams walk-through as rumor has it?

 

[CM Duck]

They only turned over six tapes? And Goodell actually believed that was all they had?

well, those were probably the ones they didn't have time to throw into the wood chipper once good old Commish showed up....

I guess we should be surprised they even had that many