ARTICLE: Is the white CB gone for good?

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Mark Kriegel
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A week removed from Donovan McNabb's remarks about black quarterbacks, the nation prepares for another weekend of pro football, a game segregated by position.

For the sake of argument, consider the rule, and not the exception. Kickers and punters are white. Running backs (excluding the "throwback" blocking types) are black. Receivers are mostly black. Quarterbacks, as McNabb noted, remain predominantly white.

Still, a single black quarterback would be one more than the number of starting white cornerbacks.

"I may have been the last," says Jason Sehorn, who retired four years ago.

The last ever, he means. Sehorn, whose nickname among the Giants was "Species," now wonders if white cornerbacks are themselves extinct.

"Like the dinosaur," he says.

Then again, if in fact the white cornerback is a dead species, it wouldn't bother Sehorn too much. It is not, at least in his mind, a civil rights question.

"Being the last doesn't mean anything," he says. "It's not like being the first. It's not like I was a pioneer."

Sehorn, now an analyst for FOX Sports Net, considers black quarterbacks like James Harris and Doug Williams among the game's pioneers. He's more ambivalent on the subject of McNabb, who recently told HBO's James Brown that black quarterbacks "have to do a little extra" and that their white counterparts "don't get criticized as much as we do."

"As a journalist," says Sehorn, "the first thing I thought was, 'It's not the color of your skin. It's the city you play in.'"

Philadelphia, where it is brotherly to loathe, has the most notorious fans in America. Long before booing McNabb, they booed Santa Claus and Mike Schmidt. Sehorn — who notes that black quarterbacks have been drafted with the first pick in two of the last six NFL drafts (should've been three if the Texans had the sense to draft Vince Young) — ventures an educated guess that McNabb's comments are rooted in frustration, the voice of a man telling himself: "You take all this crap, and for what?"

"We played the Eagles twice a year and they never had a great wide receiver," says Sehorn. "But the one year they give him a great wide receiver — even if he was a malcontent — he gets them to the Super Bowl. And then what?"

Then he gets booed.

Still, as former player, there's something in Sehorn that feels obligated to qualify his answer.

"I've never been in McNabb's shoes," he says.
Translation: I've never been a black quarterback.
He has, however, been a white cornerback. And one can't help but wonder why the very idea has become such an anomaly. How many white kids from junior high through college were down-shifted, as it were, from corner to safety and from safety to linebacker in anticipation of a career at the next level?

Like most questions involving race and sports, these may be impossible to answer, but nevertheless worth asking. White cornerbacks lack the same historical baggage black quarterbacks have to carry, but by the same token, is there not a presumption against them? Didn't Jason Sehorn have to do "a little extra" to prove himself?
"No," he says.

His answer comes as something of a surprise. For a guy who grew up dirt poor without a father, Sehorn is devout in his belief that one should make his own breaks. It may sound naïve, but he considers professional football a meritocracy.

"I truly believe the best people play," he says. "No matter what color they are."

Sehorn played safety through his junior year at USC, and was projected as a safety when drafted by the Giants. He played two preseason games at the strong side position. By his own account, he was "awful." He was also bored.
"Sitting around doing nothing," he says. "It was mundane."

Finally, defensive coordinator Mike Nolan asked: "What do you feel most comfortable doing?"

"Playing corner," he said.

He believed he was a cornerback. And that's how he made his career, six years as a starter, the last white corner of any consequence since Atlanta's Scott Case back in the '80s. If a single play could illustrate Sehorn's virtues as an athlete, it would be his interception of McNabb in a playoff game on Jan. 7, 2001.

From Bill Pennington's story in the New York Times: "As McNabb let go of the ball, Sehorn, who had been retreating in coverage, broke forward and dived for the pass a few feet in front of (Torrance) Small. Sehorn got his hands on the ball, but he fell to the ground, rolling onto his back as he bobbled the ball. Lying on the grass and looking up, Sehorn batted the ball in the air, then caught it with two hands even as he was rising to run the other way.
"With the ball tucked under his arm, Sehorn quickly made a move to elude a Philadelphia lineman, then outraced McNabb to the corner of the end zone."

"I've never seen an interception like that," said Jim Fassel, the Giants coach.

"It was instinct," Sehorn said after the game.
Instinct? According to the ever-prevailing stereotypes, such instinct and athleticism is precisely what's lacking in so many white players.

Sehorn doesn't doubt that a form of prejudice, however benign, results in some white high school kids being steered away from positions like cornerback. Then again, part of the problem has to be the kids themselves.
"Some people are like sheep," he says.

You can't be a running back unless you believe you're a running back. Same goes for cornerbacks and quarterbacks.

"You have to believe in yourself," says Sehorn. "You have to believe that you can be the anomaly."
 
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Last I've seen on Big Collegiate level was Dustin Fox of OSU and thatbum from Iowa who wears #13 who is always getting smoked.
 

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I always thought there was a conspiracy to make Sehorn a good QB around 1996 and 1997. Not because of his skin color, but his uniform color. He was a Giant and more importantly not a Cowboy. I felt the same about Aeneas Williams with the Cardinals at that time as well.

Both guys had talent, but they seemed to get away with a lot when they faced Dallas and Michael Irvin. Okay, maybe not a conspiracy, but they certainly could mug Irvin and never get called for anything. Meanwhile, Kevin Smith was called for every little tick tack contact. I remember Darren Woodson saying that Smith was picked on, while Williams and Sehorn were given the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Is it race? Is it talent? Is it stereo types?

Probably a combination of all 3, but I think we have come a lot closer to it being about talent.
 

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I've told the story before, but it was so funny to me way back in some draft in the late 80s when the Skins drafted a white corner named Brian Davis from Nebraska. I think it was Paul Maguire and Theismann doing the commentary for ESPN at that time. Back then they didn't have every detail about every player like they do now, and the two immediately said how the Skins would move him to safety because he couldn't play corner at this level. It wasn't until many minutes later that they put up his 40 time of 4.45 or something, which at that time was excellent, and the two had to backpedal like crazy. :) I'm pretty sure Davis went on to start at CB for one of Washington's Superbowl teams.

In my miniscule, insignificant, low-level, nothing of an athletic career :), I was a fast white guy. It was really amazing how people immediately assumed they could outrun you because you were white... I mean, everyone knows white guys can't be fast.

It's nothing like long ago when black kids were steered away from leadership positions like QB, but still, the bias is definitely there.

And BTW, I hate to tell Sehorn, but he won't be the last one. There will be others for sure.
 

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Sehorn doesn't doubt that a form of prejudice, however benign, results in some white high school kids being steered away from positions like cornerback. Then again, part of the problem has to be the kids themselves.
"Some people are like sheep," he says.


Riiiiiight. My son played football but guess what? The coaches don't want to hear it. You play where they tell you to play or you get lost. If a kid went to the coach and asked to play a different position he was a troublemaker and was punished. My kid was the fastest, surest-tackling LB on the team but guess what? The coaches made him sit on the sideline because at 5'9" he was 'too short'.

Not about being a sheep...it's about being powerless.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1674731 said:
I've told the story before, but it was so funny to me way back in some draft in the late 80s when the Skins drafted a white corner named Brian Davis from Nebraska. I think it was Paul Maguire and Theismann doing the commentary for ESPN at that time. Back then they didn't have every detail about every player like they do now, and the two immediately said how the Skins would move him to safety because he couldn't play corner at this level. It wasn't until many minutes later that they put up his 40 time of 4.45 or something, which at that time was excellent, and the two had to backpedal like crazy. :) I'm pretty sure Davis went on to start at CB for one of Washington's Superbowl teams.

In my miniscule, insignificant, low-level, nothing of an athletic career :), I was a fast white guy. It was really amazing how people immediately assumed they could outrun you because you were white... I mean, everyone knows white guys can't be fast.

It's nothing like long ago when black kids were steered away from leadership positions like QB, but still, the bias is definitely there.

And BTW, I hate to tell Sehorn, but he won't be the last one. There will be others for sure.

God, you sound like "the day of the white cornerback is among us! it is nigh! WE SHALL RISE AGAIN!"
 

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SupermanXx;1674741 said:
God, you sound like "the day of the white cornerback is among us! it is nigh! WE SHALL RISE AGAIN!"

No, but there might be like, one in the next five or ten years. :)

Just kinda sounded like Sehorn was using it as a way to prop himself... "I'm the last one ever!" There'll be some athletic white kid somewhere that will be able to do it.
 

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In my miniscule, insignificant, low-level, nothing of an athletic career , I was a fast white guy. It was really amazing how people immediately assumed they could outrun you because you were white... I mean, everyone knows white guys can't be fast.

I was also the fast white guy and it sounds like we had the same type of career.

But it was funny how often I could use peoples perceptions against them. It actually helped me that people had the perception of how fast could this white kid be.

I was able to use their perceptions against them and often beat them. Unfortunately, it still was not enough to prevent me from having a low level nothing carrer. But it did give me my moments.
 

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I think that there is a lot of sterotyping that goes into it. However it is based on genetics, also. But I think we have had this converstation about 6 months ago or so.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1674731 said:
In my miniscule, insignificant, low-level, nothing of an athletic career :), I was a fast white guy. It was really amazing how people immediately assumed they could outrun you because you were white... I mean, everyone knows white guys can't be fast.

I too was a fast white guy (I'm still white, but not quite as fast). I ran track in high school, I did the 4x100, 4x400, and hurdles. Most of the time when I told someone I ran track they would ask if I did long distance.

There was one time at a track meet when me and the two other varsity hurdlers on my team (who were both black) were warming up before our event. Someone from another team came and warmed up near us and we got to talking with him. He asked the other two guys if they were on the varsity team. Then he turned to me and asked if I was on JV. He was being completely serious too.

I could also see people snickering at me sometimes when we took our positions for the 4x100 relay. My coach called me token because he said it was goo dluck to have a token white guy on a relay team (I know that's not PC, but we were all easy going enough that no offense was meant or taken).
 

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bobtheflob;1674833 said:
My coach called me token because he said it was goo dluck to have a token white guy on a relay team (I know that's not PC, but we were all easy going enough that no offense was meant or taken).

Amazing. Imagine if a white coach said that to the only black kid on the team. Better yet, don't, cause it'd be ugly.
 

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I wish the article would have gone abit deeper and explained WHY there are no more white CB's in the NFL.

What physiological traits are required to excel in the position?

Without going into racial stereotypes, there are differences between the races which accentuate the needs at the different positions.

There's also a reason why there are no players of Oriental descent in the NFL, CFL, XFL, AFL, and 99.99999% of the college football ranks.

I'd love to read an indepth physiological study on the biological and genetic differences in the NFL.
 

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Eddie;1674872 said:
I wish the article would have gone abit deeper and explained WHY there are no more white CB's in the NFL.

What physiological traits are required to excel in the position?

Without going into racial stereotypes, there are differences between the races which accentuate the needs at the different positions.

There's also a reason why there are no players of Oriental descent in the NFL, CFL, XFL, AFL, and 99.99999% of the college football ranks.

I'd love to read an indepth physiological study on the biological and genetic differences in the NFL.

...maybe my son will be able to change all of that. He's (12) years old and ran at this year's University of Saskatchewan football camp 5.26 40 time.

There were (90) kids invited to camp. Nicholas was the 24th fastest. All the kids who were sub 5 seconds were 14 and under and all white.

I was told for kids in that age group Nicholas was doing really well.

I don't know if he will continue in football. The past two seasons he has really had a lot of fun. We'll see...
 

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glad to see so many fast white guys wind up on this board.:bow:

this is the kind of article which people should keep their opinions to themselves. you can easily be called a racist if someone doesn't like what he reads. now, i am assuming the readers are male, which is a stereotype to say the least.
 
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