ARTICLE: NFL to fine teams with suspended players

[TheCount]

Goodell to fine teams for player misbehavior

May 20, 7:31 pm EDT


ATLANTA (AP)—The NFL put more teeth in its personal conduct policy on Tuesday when commissioner Roger Goodell announced he would fine teams whose players were suspended for disciplinary reasons.

“We want to continue to emphasize personal conduct and personal responsibility,” he said at the end of a one-day league meeting. “One way to do it is to hold teams responsible for the conduct of their players.
Goodell instituted a tougher policy during the 2006 season, his first as commissioner, after a series of arrests, nine alone affecting the Cincinnati Bengals.

Two Bengals, wide receiver Chris Henry and linebacker Odell Thurman, received lengthy suspensions—Thurman for two years. Both were cut by the team after being reinstated.

Goodell also said he would meet soon with another major offender, cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones, who was suspended for all of last season following a series of run-ins with the law. Jones was traded last month from Tennessee to Dallas and has petitioned for the right to work out with his new team, something he will need permission from the league to do.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

This is ridiculous. It's time for the owners to realize that Goodell has mishandled every big decision he's had to make. Teams can't control what their players do away from the practice fields. I could see the fine possibly dissuading teams from picking up troubled players, but most suspensions are first-time suspensions.

 

[speedkilz88]

This is ridiculous. It's time for the owners to realize that Goodell has mishandled every big decision he's had to make. Teams can't control what their players do away from the practice fields. I could see the fine possibly dissuading teams from picking up troubled players, but most suspensions are first-time suspensions.

Whats funny is that he is the guy reinstating the players.

 

[LowTech]

This is ridiculous. These are grown men. A team cannot be held responsible for an employees action when he is away from work.

 

[big dog cowboy]

A team cannot be held responsible for an employees action when he is away from work.

That is the whole point. Don't draft the trouble makers or you run a risk.

 

[sago1]

Not right to criticize Goodall. The reality is that every player when he signs his NFL contract agrees to certain conditions which include at least 1 paragraph on his behavior which can be tailored specifically for individual players. Most teams/coaching staff don't take action when a player misbehaves & thus things have gotten out of hand -- take Cincy Bengal Thugs.

The NFL is an entertainment business & relies on support from its fans. If a player's off-field activities brings serious embarrassment to his team & the NFL you better believe any NFL team and the Commission can fine him, suspend him, etc. Essentially thugs aren't good for business & too many players have been coddled to believe they can get away with anything including stealing, beating up people, etc.

Since owners/coaching staffs lack the guts to discipline their own players who seriously misbehave, the Commish has been stepping in and you better believe it's with the consent of the owners. Yes, players have their rights just like anybody else but by signing their NFL contracts they have agreed to submit to certain behavior. Commish started holding the players to their contracts; now he's going after teams (like the Bengals, Browns, etc) who continue to draft players who've had some runins with the law already -- even before they were drafted.

Remember that old adage -- driving is a privilege not a right. Same applies to the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right & the Commish by virtue of the authority given him by the NFL owners with legal support from Congress re antitrust laws is the CEO.

BTW: If you were a high profile employee of a big company & were arrested or charged with kiddie porn, just watch how quickly your employer would be all over you. Some of you might be concerned the Commish could come after the Cowboys in some way for trading for Pacman, etc., but I doubt that's what he has in mind. Indeed the Cowboys probably would be a prime example to him of how to turn some players around; suspect Goodall might want to see more teams with a similar dedication to cleaning up their image.

 

[yimyammer]

Not right to criticize Goodall. The reality is that every player when he signs his NFL contract agrees to certain conditions which include at least 1 paragraph on his behavior which can be tailored specifically for individual players. Most teams/coaching staff don't take action when a player misbehaves & thus things have gotten out of hand -- take Cincy Bengal Thugs.

The NFL is an entertainment business & relies on support from its fans. If a player's off-field activities brings serious embarrassment to his team & the NFL you better believe any NFL team and the Commission can fine him, suspend him, etc. Essentially thugs aren't good for business & too many players have been coddled to believe they can get away with anything including stealing, beating up people, etc.

Since owners/coaching staffs lack the guts to discipline their own players who seriously misbehave, the Commish has been stepping in and you better believe it's with the consent of the owners. Yes, players have their rights just like anybody else but by signing their NFL contracts they have agreed to submit to certain behavior. Commish started holding the players to their contracts; now he's going after teams (like the Bengals, Browns, etc) who continue to draft players who've had some runins with the law already -- even before they were drafted.

Remember that old adage -- driving is a privilege not a right. Same applies to the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right & the Commish by virtue of the authority given him by the NFL owners with legal support from Congress re antitrust laws is the CEO.

BTW: If you were a high profile employee of a big company & were arrested or charged with kiddie porn, just watch how quickly your employer would be all over you. Some of you might be concerned the Commish could come after the Cowboys in some way for trading for Pacman, etc., but I doubt that's what he has in mind. Indeed the Cowboys probably would be a prime example to him of how to turn some players around; suspect Goodall might want to see more teams with a similar dedication to cleaning up their image.

Yeah, but that employer wouldn't get thrown in jail for the crimes of his employees.

How is this different from throwing a parent in jail for the crimes of their children?

You can tell your children/employees which way they should go and what you expect from them but you can't make decisions for them. Therefore, IMHO, you shouldn't be punished for their crimes. It's punishment enough to a team to lose the player and any bonus that may have been paid.

I think this policy is over reaching.

 

[VietCowboy]

maybe if they had certain rules in place that required organizations to punish deliquent players. Make it fair, across the board, and everyone knows what the consequences are for each transgression.

I don't like punishing the teams themselves.

 

[BAZ]

So, like, would this count if Roy got done for another horsecollar?

 

[BrassCowboy]

Not right to criticize Goodall. The reality is that every player when he signs his NFL contract agrees to certain conditions which include at least 1 paragraph on his behavior which can be tailored specifically for individual players. Most teams/coaching staff don't take action when a player misbehaves & thus things have gotten out of hand -- take Cincy Bengal Thugs.

The NFL is an entertainment business & relies on support from its fans. If a player's off-field activities brings serious embarrassment to his team & the NFL you better believe any NFL team and the Commission can fine him, suspend him, etc. Essentially thugs aren't good for business & too many players have been coddled to believe they can get away with anything including stealing, beating up people, etc.

Since owners/coaching staffs lack the guts to discipline their own players who seriously misbehave, the Commish has been stepping in and you better believe it's with the consent of the owners. Yes, players have their rights just like anybody else but by signing their NFL contracts they have agreed to submit to certain behavior. Commish started holding the players to their contracts; now he's going after teams (like the Bengals, Browns, etc) who continue to draft players who've had some runins with the law already -- even before they were drafted.

Remember that old adage -- driving is a privilege not a right. Same applies to the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right & the Commish by virtue of the authority given him by the NFL owners with legal support from Congress re antitrust laws is the CEO.

BTW: If you were a high profile employee of a big company & were arrested or charged with kiddie porn, just watch how quickly your employer would be all over you. Some of you might be concerned the Commish could come after the Cowboys in some way for trading for Pacman, etc., but I doubt that's what he has in mind. Indeed the Cowboys probably would be a prime example to him of how to turn some players around; suspect Goodall might want to see more teams with a similar dedication to cleaning up their image.

not sure many would argue with your point, I agree with it and I am sure most here do....

What I think where the difference lies is that most here are saying that how can a team be responsible for a player's actions, not the player themselves.

I can understand a team that has no program in place to help players when in need and just don't care how the players handle themselves MAY be held somewhat liable, but what about teams. like the Cowboys, that has a full blown program to handle troubled players and right there to discipline them as needed. If a player does wrong while working for that team, then what? Does that team still get fined considering they have done all they could? Is there any correct dialogue they can go about with the league on how to handle said player and not worry about fine?

I am sure most owners do not wish their players to get into trouble, so where does the responsibility most lie. I have to say the player. Teams are going to shy away from players who are destined to end up suspended costing them money and roster space, so I am not sure a threat of a fine will do much help. Fine the player more than $5,000 next time. Try $50,000 or more and they will get the picture. The combination of the high fine and the probability of losing out on a chance on a bigger contract due to teams worried about their chances of staying clean will give players second thoughts.

 

[Hostile]

He's got no respect for the

 

[lane]

So, like, would this count if Roy got done for another horsecollar?

i love your sig. pic

lmao!!

 

[Seven]

Goodell to fine teams for player misbehavior

May 20, 7:31 pm EDT


ATLANTA (AP)—The NFL put more teeth in its personal conduct policy on Tuesday when commissioner Roger Goodell announced he would fine teams whose players were suspended for disciplinary reasons.

“We want to continue to emphasize personal conduct and personal responsibility,” he said at the end of a one-day league meeting. “One way to do it is to hold teams responsible for the conduct of their players.
Goodell instituted a tougher policy during the 2006 season, his first as commissioner, after a series of arrests, nine alone affecting the Cincinnati Bengals.

Two Bengals, wide receiver Chris Henry and linebacker Odell Thurman, received lengthy suspensions—Thurman for two years. Both were cut by the team after being reinstated.

Goodell also said he would meet soon with another major offender, cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones, who was suspended for all of last season following a series of run-ins with the law. Jones was traded last month from Tennessee to Dallas and has petitioned for the right to work out with his new team, something he will need permission from the league to do.

HOLY SHAZBOT!!! +178.............I called it.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

as long as all teams are treated fairly--all is good

 

[DallasEast]

Not right to criticize Goodall. The reality is that every player when he signs his NFL contract agrees to certain conditions which include at least 1 paragraph on his behavior which can be tailored specifically for individual players. Most teams/coaching staff don't take action when a player misbehaves & thus things have gotten out of hand -- take Cincy Bengal Thugs.

The NFL is an entertainment business & relies on support from its fans. If a player's off-field activities brings serious embarrassment to his team & the NFL you better believe any NFL team and the Commission can fine him, suspend him, etc. Essentially thugs aren't good for business & too many players have been coddled to believe they can get away with anything including stealing, beating up people, etc.

Since owners/coaching staffs lack the guts to discipline their own players who seriously misbehave, the Commish has been stepping in and you better believe it's with the consent of the owners. Yes, players have their rights just like anybody else but by signing their NFL contracts they have agreed to submit to certain behavior. Commish started holding the players to their contracts; now he's going after teams (like the Bengals, Browns, etc) who continue to draft players who've had some runins with the law already -- even before they were drafted.

Remember that old adage -- driving is a privilege not a right. Same applies to the NFL. Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right & the Commish by virtue of the authority given him by the NFL owners with legal support from Congress re antitrust laws is the CEO.

BTW: If you were a high profile employee of a big company & were arrested or charged with kiddie porn, just watch how quickly your employer would be all over you. Some of you might be concerned the Commish could come after the Cowboys in some way for trading for Pacman, etc., but I doubt that's what he has in mind. Indeed the Cowboys probably would be a prime example to him of how to turn some players around; suspect Goodall might want to see more teams with a similar dedication to cleaning up their image.

I agree 100%. While I haven't had any problems with his any of his player discipline measures thus far, I'm not so keen about his efforts at the coaching level. The stench of Belichick will linger around him for a long time.

 

[Hoofbite]

How is this different from throwing a parent in jail for the crimes of their children?

Im not arguing against you but reading this just reminded me of a video I saw the other day. Some guy got 6 months in jail because his daughter was skipping too much school.

I'd post the link but some of the ads and content on the site might be a little much.

Ill see if I can find something on youtube.

edit: heres a report. Not the same one that I saw but same story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjwMNpgnKk

 

[Seven]

as long as all teams are treated fairly--all is good

The stench of Belichick will linger around him for a long time.

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[lockster]

I don't agree with any of this at all. I don't agree with bad conduct, but I think, what you do on ur own time, is your own business good or bad. If the government finds out you did something, then you should pay your debt to society and not the NFL. You should still be allowed to compete in the NFL. I watch football to watch good football players, not choirboys. Also, a team cannot control what it's players do after hours, and shouldn't. One thing more, just because football players are targets, doesn't mean that the problem is with them, and should be innocent untill proven guilty. Ask Ray Lewis, who everybody unfairly nailed to the wall. I think it may be stupid to go to places like strip clubs and such for professional players, but it's their right just as it is ours. Where did freedom in this country go?!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are a country of hypocrites and power hungry individuals.

 

[VietCowboy]

Im not arguing against you but reading this just reminded me of a video I saw the other day. Some guy got 6 months in jail because his daughter was skipping too much school.

I'd post the link but some of the ads and content on the site might be a little much.

Ill see if I can find something on youtube.

edit: heres a report. Not the same one that I saw but same story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjwMNpgnKk

that is because the child is a juvenile and as such, the parents have a legal responsibility to take care of them. If that child turned 18 and killed someone, unless you can prove that the parent forced/coerced their kid into murder, a parent will never get charged for their kid's crimes.

 

[silverbear]

This is ridiculous. It's time for the owners to realize that Goodell has mishandled every big decision he's had to make.

No, it's time for YOU to realize that Goodell is doing EXACTLY what he was hired to do in the first place... by the owners...