ARTICLE: NFL to fine teams with suspended players

[silverbear]

He's got no respect for the

Uhhh, you mis-spelled "respeck"...

 

[RainMan]

I think it's a slippery slope here. Are you going to fine Indianapolis if Marvin Harrison -- a guy Indy had no reason to suspect would ever be caught up in the middle of something -- gets suspended a few games for the gun incident?

I can understand the intent -- try to make teams take a more serious approacch to taking on problem players. But at the end of the day, I'm not sure this is the approach to take.

 

[DallasEast]

I love those Royal Bank of Scotland commercials, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWt5xt72DRE

Sometimes, you have to just shut up and do something. While some continue to repeat the litany of oh nos such as, "Oh noes! The poor millionaire players!" or "Oh noes! The poor owners of multimillion dollar valued franchises!", etc...

...at least Goodell is doing something. He's human, so he's going to make mistakes. He should be blamed IF there are negative aftereffects of his actions--instead of getting into the same sing-a-long of oh noes! Still, he should be thanked for doing something instead of nothing.

There is a fundamental difference between purposeful and accidental. As adults, we are confronted daily with either the choice of what we intend to do and what happens to us which is beyond our control.

Every single NFL player is a grown man. If a player gets caught up in something which occured randomly and unforeseen, he should be dealt with or not dealt with in a manner fitting the circumstance. Yet, if a player has intentionly acted upon his own motivation to do something negative, that's his choice.

He should live with the consequences of that choice as it pertains to his employment in the National Football League. Now, Goodell's instituting the consequences, which we as fans aren't always going to agree with him, and he ain't gonna be right all the time, but he wouldn't have to do squat IF idiotic millionaire players would simply (linky) act like grown men.

Just my two cents. Goodell.

 

[Hostile]

Uhhh, you mis-spelled "respeck"...

I did. To my utter shame.

 

[Doomsday101]

That is the whole point. Don't draft the trouble makers or you run a risk.

Exactly. The issue of fining teams was brought up by the league office last year and teams who are taking risk on problem players need to think about what they are doing before they sign that player. In a league where sponsorship deals are big it is important for the league to clean up an image that could cost them sponsorship dollars

 

[DaBoys4Life]

That is the whole point. Don't draft the trouble makers or you run a risk.

that makes zero sense.

 

[silverbear]

I did. To my utter shame.

That's OK, kid; stick with me, and I'll have you edumacated in no time at all... it's not enough to master grammar, you've gotta master slang, jargon, patois and general BS...

Trust me when I say I can teach you everything you'll ever need to know about the latter... :grin2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

that makes zero sense.

Thank you.

 

[DABOYZ]

Goodell=Moron.

Does this guy just ever put any thought into his decision making? I can understand penalizing a team such as the Bengals for having several repeat offenders. But what about teams who have no problems and all of a sudden one individual gets into trouble and suspended? As the commissioner he must come up with a fair plan when penalizing teams. He can not continue to shoot from the hip when it comes to issuing fines and suspensions. The rules and penalties must clearly be stated to all players and owners.

If Goodell wants to clean up the NFL why aren't these suspended players required to attend some sort of counseling or diversionary program? These players can then be evaluated by a professional and either cleared to come back or remain on suspension. I am not talking about a 3-day program, I am speaking more along the lines of weeks to months depending on the offense.

Fining a team is not the right thing to do in my opinion. These players sign contracts with different teams and each team has their own set of rules which fall in line with the policies and rules in the NFL. Goodell is overpaid if this is the best he can come up with.

Everyone has a different way of looking at this. Here is my example: A student gets suspended from school. Should the principal then make the decision to punish the teacher/parent who is responsible for that student?

Yes, I know it is a privilage to play in the NFL but keep in mind it is also a privilege to serve as the commissioner. Goodell's decision's have been nothing more than elementary. This guy really needs to consult with someone who can give him better ideas. He makes Bud Selig look like a genius.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

That is the whole point. Don't draft the trouble makers or you run a risk.

So what happens if a player never had any character issues gets a DUI, then the team provides him with the proper support and he gets another DUI? Those are suspension worthy crimes and something that happens all of the time in the real world.

Another dumb idea by a guy who is clearly out of his league as a commissioner.



YAKUZA
www.impeachgoodell.com

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Exactly. The issue of fining teams was brought up by the league office last year and teams who are taking risk on problem players need to think about what they are doing before they sign that player. In a league where sponsorship deals are big it is important for the league to clean up an image that could cost them sponsorship dollars

This league has been through a murderer (Carruth) of a pregnant woman, an accused murderers in Ray Lewis and OJ Simpson (and probably others), all sorts of players involved in fraud, drugs, rape, assault, and just about any law you can throw at 'em. And yet the league has never had a problem with sponsorship dollars.





YAKUZA

 

[Doomsday101]

This league has been through a murderer (Carruth) of a pregnant woman, an accused murderers in Ray Lewis and OJ Simpson (and probably others), all sorts of players involved in fraud, drugs, rape, assault, and just about any law you can throw at 'em. And yet the league has never had a problem with sponsorship dollars.





YAKUZA

These are the things that are adding up as you said many things have happened and the money is getting bigger that the sponsors are putting in so image does matter.

Bottom line Goodell is going to do what he can to clean this league up and he has the backing of many players including our own Jason Witten who along with some other players went to the commissioner office about cleaning things up.

Some players are sick and tired of being lumped in with the thugs in the league and this league should not have to tolerate it any longer. It is not a right to play in the NFL and the players can control their own action and if they can't then they do not belong.

 

[adamknite]

This league has been through a murderer (Carruth) of a pregnant woman, an accused murderers in Ray Lewis and OJ Simpson (and probably others), all sorts of players involved in fraud, drugs, rape, assault, and just about any law you can throw at 'em. And yet the league has never had a problem with sponsorship dollars.





YAKUZA

Leonard Little....

 

[zeromaster]

In a way, this is no surprise: under Tagliabue, not much was done, IIRC. Now Goodell will probably end up doing too much. The pendulum swing is what's painful to watch. In the end, the compromise is somewhere in the middle.

Mr. Goodell had better hope that nothing goes wrong in the league office or with his family, then the scheisen will really hit the fannen.

 

[Hostile]

This league has been through a murderer (Carruth) of a pregnant woman, an accused murderers in Ray Lewis and OJ Simpson (and probably others), all sorts of players involved in fraud, drugs, rape, assault, and just about any law you can throw at 'em. And yet the league has never had a problem with sponsorship dollars.


YAKUZA

Don't forget dog fighting, manslaughter (Leonard Little and now Charles Grant), illegal weapons charges, and a hitman who understand "whatever" means kill someone for a stranger.

 

[DallasEast]

This league has been through a murderer (Carruth) of a pregnant woman, an accused murderers in Ray Lewis and OJ Simpson (and probably others), all sorts of players involved in fraud, drugs, rape, assault, and just about any law you can throw at 'em. And yet the league has never had a problem with sponsorship dollars.





YAKUZA

 

[Angus]

Yeah, but that employer wouldn't get thrown in jail for the crimes of his employees.

How is this different from throwing a parent in jail for the crimes of their children?

You can tell your children/employees which way they should go and what you expect from them but you can't make decisions for them. Therefore, IMHO, you shouldn't be punished for their crimes. It's punishment enough to a team to lose the player and any bonus that may have been paid.

I think this policy is over reaching.

First, companies can choose their employees. Parents must take what they get.

Secondly, in some jurisdictions parents are punished for their children's transgressions if they have agreed to stop them and don't.

The policy may be overreaching but it is not illogical or unprecedented.

 

[VietCowboy]

slippery slope my friends. next thing you know, they will be responsible for their fans.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Robespierre strikes again

 

[Jack-Reacher]

Yeah, but that employer wouldn't get thrown in jail for the crimes of his employees.

They may not get thrown in jail for misconduct of their employees but they can be liable. Take an employee that is involved in an accident while intoxicated in a company vehicle. The company is one of the first to be named in the lawsuit.

Companies can be liable even when it isn't an actual employee, if a company sponsors a race team or vehicle and an accident happens where someone is injured they get sued.

The fine a team would pay is equivalent to this, rather than the analogy of jail time.