Astros punished for sign stealing

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[CalPolyTechnique]

Firing of the HC, firing of the GM. $5 million fine and the loss of their first- and second-round draft picks in both 2020 and '21. What did the Pats pay in punishment?

Sorry, you forgot to mention they keep the WS title they cheated to win.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The Astros' cheating thing seems like eons ago.

 

[kskboys]

So that we are clear in terms of why I ask, how do you know, here is why. Beltran has been in the league for 20 years. He has played for like 9 different teams and lets all remember that when you suggest that he learned this from the Yankees, lets remember that he was with Houston long before he ever went to the Yankees. He could have, and probably did, learn this long before he ever went to the Yankees but the bottom line is we don't know. Betran in NY, was a disaster both times.

In his first stint, he hit .233 with 15 dingers and .276 with 19 homers. You would think that if he were stealing signs, he would have done a lot better when with the Yanks, at the time. The Yankees themselves were 20th in the league in hitting in 2014 and 2nd in the league in 2015 so I'm not sure that we can draw any conclusion on where Beltran learned how to steal signs the way the Astros did. He might have, I don't know but if he did, you would have thought that he, himself would have enjoyed a much better season in 2014 and that the Yankees would have been much better as well. In 2015, the Yankees were much better but Beltran himself was not much better. Still a down year and in a park that he should have lit up.

To me it's really hard to point to the Yankees and suggest that it was the Yankees who started this. Now, could they have been doing it? Yes, that's possible but there is no conclusive evidence to suggest this IMO. That is, unless somebody has provided proof that they were stealing signs as well.

Proof provided.

Yanks and Red Sox were both caught stealing signs and were punished for the 2015/16 seasons. US district court judge Jed Rakoff has ruled that they must unseal a letter they received from MLB commissioner in 2017 about their sign stealing.

Any Yanks fan bashing the Astros for this should now feel stupid!!!!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Knowing the Astros and Red Sox cheated the Dodgers out of 2 opportunities to win World Series has made me less interested in baseball.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Proof provided.

Yanks and Red Sox were both caught stealing signs and were punished for the 2015/16 seasons. US district court judge Jed Rakoff has ruled that they must unseal a letter they received from MLB commissioner in 2017 about their sign stealing.

Any Yanks fan bashing the Astros for this should now feel stupid!!!!

that one extremely tainted Astros World Series win is really getting to you

what you posted has zero to do with Astros World Series win


They’ll probably never sniff another World Series appearance.

 

[SuspectCorner]

They all cheat - but as in everything else, the 'Stros were just better at it. Suck eggs.

 

[kskboys]

that one extremely tainted Astros World Series win is really getting to you

what you posted has zero to do with Astros World Series win


They’ll probably never sniff another World Series appearance.

You're not even intelligent enough to realize how incredibly lame everything you previously said now sounds!!!! Go back and get some more education, your lack thereof is glaring brightly!!!!

 

[Tabascocat]

How many get plunked tonight?

My money is on two........

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You're not even intelligent enough to realize how incredibly lame everything you previously said now sounds!!!! Go back and get some more education, your lack thereof is glaring brightly!!!!

Only One = TAINTED!

dodgers were cheated. Twice.


Nothing lame about facts.


You want it in literary paragraph form?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If there was any further proof Houston's cheating benefited them:

2019
.274 Team Batting Avg.
.474 Slugging %
.352 On-Base %

2020
.244 Team Batting Avg.
.418 Slugging %
.317 On-Base %

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If there was any further proof Houston's cheating benefited them:

2019
.274 Team Batting Avg.
.474 Slugging %
.352 On-Base %

2020
.244 Team Batting Avg.
.418 Slugging %
.317 On-Base %

And probably should have been swept by Rays too. Very telling. Very.

 

[kskboys]

Only One = TAINTED!

dodgers were cheated. Twice.


Nothing lame about facts.


You want it in literary paragraph form?

Dodgers were cheating also!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you really so lame you don't even realize it? That's some major naivette!!!

 

[kskboys]

If there was any further proof Houston's cheating benefited them:

2019
.274 Team Batting Avg.
.474 Slugging %
.352 On-Base %

2020
.244 Team Batting Avg.
.418 Slugging %
.317 On-Base %

It's like you're arguing, and no one's refuting it, but you keep arguing!!!!!!!!

We cheated. We won. I'm good!!!

It's like you guys are just eaten up w/ jealousy.

 

[kskboys]

How many get plunked tonight?

My money is on two........

No one's been throwing at them all season. Well, except for that one loser reliever on the Dodgers!!! It's like you're not paying attention!!!

 

[Tabascocat]

No one's been throwing at them all season. Well, except for that one loser reliever on the Dodgers!!! It's like you're not paying attention!!!

Hmm, I said this before the first real game.........

You can always go back to a previous post to that where I said bean-ball will end once the season starts.

Not paying attention does not apply here on a prediction in spring training!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Dodgers were cheating also!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you really so lame you don't even realize it? That's some major naivette!!!

Ha.
You see the Dodgers in nonstop scandal at any point?

Still burns ya. Then to see them fail when they can’t cheat. It’s beautiful.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

It's like you're arguing, and no one's refuting it, but you keep arguing!!!!!!!!

We cheated. We won. I'm good!!!

It's like you guys are just eaten up w/ jealousy.

Jealous of what? Having a WS title that everyone puts an asterisk by?

No thanks.

 

[dreghorn2]

It's like you're arguing, and no one's refuting it, but you keep arguing!!!!!!!!

We cheated. We won. I'm good!!!

It's like you guys are just eaten up w/ jealousy.

Would you be fine with the Cowboys winning a Super Bowl because they hacked into the headset communication and bugged the locker rooms of opposing teams?

Would you in subsequent years roll with the 'We cheated, we won, i'm good" mantra.