At this point, are the Cowboys hiding Trey Lance?

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This theory was floated on twitter last week or so.

With no film, teams don't know what to offer so Cowboys can try to lowball..

What I see.. Cowboys will offer a 2-yr deal and the plan will be to groom him to replace Rush and/or Dak and/or trade.
 

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I'll be shocked if his NFL career is over. The need for QB's is too strong. Just look around the league at some of the QB's currently on a roster.
Agreed.

With the success that Sam Darnold has had this season, and the success that Geno Smith has had in Seattle, teams will definitely take a shot on Trey Lance to see if can develop into the 1st round talent the 9ers and some other squads thought he would become.
 

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How is it stupid?

3rd pick overall 2021 for a 4th?

it’s not like we have tons of QBs with that kind of potential.
so what he was the 3rd pick!? if he is already showing he wasn't worthy of hte pick and doesn't have the skills necessary!?

people keep throwing the word potential out there. what potential?
 

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It was a gamble, but it wasn't stupid. He is a young QB that was taken top 3 just a few years ago, it was a worthy the gamble.
It is hard to say what Jerry's mentality is though, is he trying to hide Trey, while also giving Copper the opportunity to audition for a new team next year? Unlike many I seen a lot of upside in Trey especially that last preseason game, he made some throws i don't think even Dak could make, but then, he also threw way too many ints that game as well. I could see them trying to get him signed to a multiyear extension with the hope that by year 2 or 3 he could step in for Dak.
gamble, but too high a price. you either sign him when he is released or pay a lower price.
for a 4th round pick.... that was going to be back up. and cost so much. here is what we have been able to find in the 4th round
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SF picked a RB that was a need for the cowboys. so we could have taken a RB instead of zeke. now everyone is going to go and get their crystal ball and say hey Dowdle, but in spring of 24 nobody knew and it would have been the right move.

and it made things worse. if they thought he was worth it a 4th, then the very next off season, they didn't pick his 5th year option...if you think he is worth the risk, then why pay a 4th for a 3rd string player and pay so much. if you think he is worth the risk, why not pick up his 5th year option.

we overpaid, it wasn't a well thought out plan. and it was the soap opera drama that's the cowboys, which jerry likes to create to keep us in the news.
 

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Can we quit talking about Lance? Whatever he is, he will not be the starter for the Cowboys. He'll be released after the season and Jerral will go to the dumpster for a cheap FA QB.
 

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Agreed.

With the success that Sam Darnold has had this season, and the success that Geno Smith has had in Seattle, teams will definitely take a shot on Trey Lance to see if can develop into the 1st round talent the 9ers and some other squads thought he would become.
and Darnold has been going around the league and is obviously a bridge to the next guy they drafted. probably if not for the injury Darnold wouldn't start. there wasn't a single person on this board who said, lets go an sign Darnold.

same with Geno. 7 years in the league and he bounced around and had a 1 year re-surgance in Seattle. he is still an average QB.
 

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I'm not sure who the HC is matters as much as who your starting QB is. You're simply not going to have Dak in his 30s and only playing 1 full season in recent history be exposed to a ton of hits by putting him in motion. Dak can still move a little bit when needed, but hes going to require more of a traditional style offense. What I don't think teams like to do is have a backup that requires a completely different system that changes the way the other 10 guys on the field need to play. You typically want as much continuity between QB1 and QB2 as possible. If Moore stays in Philly I would think Lance would be an excellent guy for them to bring into camp to battle for a backup position.
 

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Dallas can cut Dak in 2026.
According to Spotrac the out isn't until 2028, and even then there would be a sizable dead cap hit. Regardless, do you really think the Cowboys have decided their 2024 3rd string QB is going to be their starting QB in a few years?
 

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Yeah, and we're also hiding Mazi Smith.

He may APPEAR to be a big fat sissy pushover that's easily blocked onto his backside by someone smaller than him, but then, 5 years later, we can get him for a cheap 2nd contract.

Great strategy, except Jeryy overpays people far beyond what they're worth, and gets into price wars with himself.
 

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From other teams, so they can re-sign him again this off season? The less you see, the less you have teams with possible interest. Not sure at this point why many teams would. Please give your thoughts if you think we're holding him out to sign him back in the off season.

What do you think his contract should be?
Yes, they are hiding him because he is so good. Any other dumb questions? Please give your thoughts.
 

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i think it's one of the only two explanations. the other being we are trash and not making the playoffs but the FO/coaching staff is too dumb/stubborn to realize it and still thinks we have a better shot by playing rush than seeing if our 4th rounder was worth at least live game time evaluation cause we have nothing left to lose at this point.
 

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gamble, but too high a price. you either sign him when he is released or pay a lower price.
for a 4th round pick.... that was going to be back up. and cost so much. here is what we have been able to find in the 4th round
Laiufu
Ferguson
Gholston
Pollard
Armstrong

all contributors

SF picked a RB that was a need for the cowboys. so we could have taken a RB instead of zeke. now everyone is going to go and get their crystal ball and say hey Dowdle, but in spring of 24 nobody knew and it would have been the right move.

and it made things worse. if they thought he was worth it a 4th, then the very next off season, they didn't pick his 5th year option...if you think he is worth the risk, then why pay a 4th for a 3rd string player and pay so much. if you think he is worth the risk, why not pick up his 5th year option.

we overpaid, it wasn't a well thought out plan. and it was the soap opera drama that's the cowboys, which jerry likes to create to keep us in the news.
All of the names you listed were a gamble, some gambles payoff, some don't, the definition of a gamble. Plus he plays the NFL's most essential position, there are 10x more LBs, DE's, TE's that can contribute to an NFL team out there, than there are QB's, let's be real.
Why pick up the fifth-year option for 20 million plus, if you have a long-term developmental vision for him, by keeping his value low (not playing him on the national stage) you can resign him to a multiple year deal for that much, but more than likely even less than that.
It may be more well thought out than you are giving them credit for.
 

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yes.

hiding. But won’t work. Tons of video on the kid.

I would guess 3YR/15M

Jerry loves Lance.

hoping that KMoore takes over. Best thing that could happen for Lance and the team.
It’s moronic moves like trading for a poorly prepared player like Trance why potential head coach candidates won’t consider working for Jerry Jones.
 

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All of the names you listed were a gamble, some gambles payoff, some don't, the definition of a gamble. Plus he plays the NFL's most essential position, there are 10x more LBs, DE's, TE's that can contribute to an NFL team out there, than there are QB's, let's be real.
Why pick up the fifth-year option for 20 million plus, if you have a long-term developmental vision for him, by keeping his value low (not playing him on the national stage) you can resign him to a multiple year deal for that much, but more than likely even less than that.
It may be more well thought out than you are giving them credit for.
you gamble on what you don't know, hoping it pays off.

Lance after 2 years in the league and game tape and knowledge of coaches insiders was a known quantity. we over paid. as Jerry does. Jerry did it again. he paid a 4th for the 5th on the depth chart WR on the panthers, one of the worst offensive teams in the league......Mingo has been in the league for couple of years. cowboys were interested to draft him two years ago....but after being in the league. seeing what they are, then its a known quantity.

he over paid for both.

and what's the long term developmental vision? for a 3rd pick in the draft, who has potential according to many, and can't beat a noodle armed QB to be even the back up!!!!

and long term plan? Jerry has no plan. Lance is a FA. he can go to any other team. how is that a long term plan.

geez people!!!!come on now, with the spins. at least make it make sense!
 

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There’s probably even less interest in Lance than there was. The thought the Cowboys are hiding him so no one will become interested is hilarious. The OP has way too much time on his hands. lol
 

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Agreed.

With the success that Sam Darnold has had this season, and the success that Geno Smith has had in Seattle, teams will definitely take a shot on Trey Lance to see if can develop into the 1st round talent the 9ers and some other squads thought he would become.
Trance is a free agent. He might sign for one year at the minimum allowed in the CBA. That means he’s less expensive than day one and day two draft picks, with less of a commitment. And despite that the only team that might possibly be interested in him, south of the Canadian border, is the Cowboys.

Look at what successful teams do. The Chiefs back up quarterback has started over 100 games, has a winning record in his starts, matriculated at the same school as Trance, the Chiefs gave up nothing to acquire him, and paid him less than the Cowboys paid Trance for the 2024 season. He’s going to a free agent, too.

They’ll both be on the market for 2025. Wentz will be signed as a back up by a well run team after this season. Trance will be the back up on the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.
 
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