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Risen Star;4019514 said:
Well they are supposed to be lower rated prospects. So no baby aces.

I know Cosart is really highly regarded and Singleton's got big bat potential but at least they kept Brown and now have their 2012 outfield set.

Now I'm waiting to see the Braves' response. Maybe Carlos Quentin. They have a loaded farm system rich with pitching. They have to do something.

I'd pass on Quentin. He'd be like Uggla version 2.0. Right handed bat with decent power but doesn't hit for average.
 

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RoyTheHammer;4019588 said:
I'd pass on Quentin. He'd be like Uggla version 2.0. Right handed bat with decent power but doesn't hit for average.


I'd offer Minor and another prospect to LA for Kemp. He is due to be a FA, they can't afford him and Ethier most likely sense their in a financial mess.

Maybe wishful thinking.
 

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Muhast;4019714 said:
I'd offer Minor and another prospect to LA for Kemp. He is due to be a FA, they can't afford him and Ethier most likely sense their in a financial mess.

Maybe wishful thinking.

Im wondering if Kemp and/or Ethier are even available. Haven't heard much other than some minor speculation about those two. Seems like they weren't even there to be had. That could change quickly though.. who knows.
 

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Kemp isn't going anywhere. Even with the Dodgers recent $$ troubles, it would take 3 of Atlanta's top pitching prospects. Not going to happen.
 

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Temo;4013536 said:
Awesome picture, shows no tag being applied. Just how I like it.

I'm so surprised by your blatant ignoring of what is obvious to the rest of the world. :rolleyes:
 

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Braves picked up Michael Bourn for Jordan Schafer and 3 minor league toss ins today. How do ya'll feel about this move?
 

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RoyTheHammer;4024307 said:
Braves picked up Michael Bourn for Jordan Schafer and 3 minor league toss ins today. How do ya'll feel about this move?


Happy about it. Schafer is very good defensively and fast. But can't hit at all.

Bourn can steal a lot of bases.


(BTW even you have to admit Uggla is MUCH better lately. He has a 21 game hitting streak ( by far the longest of his career)
 

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Muhast;4024325 said:
Happy about it. Schafer is very good defensively and fast. But can't hit at all.

Bourn can steal a lot of bases.


(BTW even you have to admit Uggla is MUCH better lately. He has a 21 game hitting streak ( by far the longest of his career)

He's been doing better lately, sure. No question. However, for that monster contract that he signed, he better keep doing this well for the rest of the entire season if he wants to bring his numbers back up to respectability.
 

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Muhast;4024325 said:
Happy about it. Schafer is very good defensively and fast. But can't hit at all.

Bourn can steal a lot of bases.


(BTW even you have to admit Uggla is MUCH better lately. He has a 21 game hitting streak ( by far the longest of his career)

22 games now. Watching the game right now.
 

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The big three all load up before the deadline. Should make for a heck of an NL playoff.
 

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The Phillies messed up, though. They should have sat Ibanez's worthless can on the bench instead of sending down Domonic Brown. Brown has just as many walks as Ibanez in under half of the ABs, much higher OBP and plays better in the field.
 

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DIAF;4025803 said:
The Phillies messed up, though. They should have sat Ibanez's worthless can on the bench instead of sending down Domonic Brown. Brown has just as many walks as Ibanez in under half of the ABs, much higher OBP and plays better in the field.

Sitting Ibanez on the bench and keeping Brown doesn't open a roster spot.
 

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Stautner;4025833 said:
Sitting Ibanez on the bench and keeping Brown doesn't open a roster spot.

No, but im sure there's someone else they could have claimed that spot from. At this point, Brown is the superior bat. But whatever. Send Brown down and keep playing Suckbanez in the OF, make it that much easier for the Braves to catch them!
 

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DIAF;4025983 said:
No, but im sure there's someone else they could have claimed that spot from. At this point, Brown is the superior bat. But whatever. Send Brown down and keep playing Suckbanez in the OF, make it that much easier for the Braves to catch them!

Actually, if you knew anything about the Phillies, you'd know why that isn't true.

Brown is struggling against major league pitching so far. His swing seems too long to be as effective as he usually is.

Meanwhile, there arn't many hitters hotter than Raul right now. Over the past two or three weeks no one in the majors has more RBI's than him. Just had another 2 HR's, 4 RBI, and game winning hit tonight too. It would have been stupid to bench him right now.

EDIT: He's hitting .310 with 4 HR's and 16 RBI over the last 14 games.
 

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BTW..

Congrats on your 10,000th loss. To the lowly Marlins, no less.

6 games back and counting.. :p:
 

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RoyTheHammer;4026082 said:
EDIT: He's hitting .310 with 4 HR's and 16 RBI over the last 14 games.

That argument doesn't fly with you and Dan Uggla, and you expect me to accept it with Ibanez? lol.

Fact: Domonic Brown is a better fielder than Ibanez (Ibanez ranks dead-last amongst all LFers in UZR because he can't get to balls in play)
Fact: Domonic Brown's On-Base Percentage is far higher than Ibanez. (.290 OBP for Ibanez - makes more outs at the plate)
Fact: Domonic Brown has just as many walks as Ibanez in less than 200 at-bats.
Fact: Domonic Brown has the exact same OPS as Ibanez

If you want to use batting average (an out-dated stat, lol at anyone still using BA as a value of a players' worth), Domonic Brown actually has a HIGHER average (.246 vs .243 for Ibanez).

If you want to use recent production as a comparison, in the month of July Brown has hit .296 (21-for-71) with a .398 on-base percentage.

Conclusion - Domonic Brown is a better player RIGHT NOW than Ibanez is. The only category where Ibanez seemingly has an edge is in power. Brown is the superior player everywhere else, and the Phillies made a mistake in exiling him to the minors until September.
 

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DIAF;4026324 said:
That argument doesn't fly with you and Dan Uggla, and you expect me to accept it with Ibanez? lol.

Fact: Domonic Brown is a better fielder than Ibanez (Ibanez ranks dead-last amongst all LFers in UZR because he can't get to balls in play)
Fact: Domonic Brown's On-Base Percentage is far higher than Ibanez. (.290 OBP for Ibanez - makes more outs at the plate)
Fact: Domonic Brown has just as many walks as Ibanez in less than 200 at-bats.
Fact: Domonic Brown has the exact same OPS as Ibanez

If you want to use batting average (an out-dated stat, lol at anyone still using BA as a value of a players' worth), Domonic Brown actually has a HIGHER average (.246 vs .243 for Ibanez).

If you want to use recent production as a comparison, in the month of July Brown has hit .296 (21-for-71) with a .398 on-base percentage.

Conclusion - Domonic Brown is a better player RIGHT NOW than Ibanez is. The only category where Ibanez seemingly has an edge is in power. Brown is the superior player everywhere else, and the Phillies made a mistake in exiling him to the minors until September.


Brown is a terrible fielder right now, and he blew a couple routine plays recently that cost us the game.

Brown also isn't hitting anywhere near the level he should be. Ibanez on the other hand has shown a big rise in production recently and is responsible for single handedly winning us a couple games with his bat recently too. You don't bench someone who's on a tear for a guy who can't field routine balls and looks out of sync at the plate.

Brown will be up here next year, and he'll be the starting left fielder. No one's worried about him at all. Just needs to work on his fielding a little more and possibly shorten up his swing a little as well.
 
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