Audio: Carp keeps it real on The Herd - 1/19/09

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big dog cowboy;2590731 said:
Great question.

Wish I had an answer.

I hate a self appointed team spokeman. And some wonder why the offensive line hates him.
 

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carpenter sounds like the fake wade phillips on the ticket.

i cant get over that when I listen to him now.

Carpenter needs to shut up. His talking is part of what is wrong here.

If it wasnt so sad it would be funny.
 

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theebs;2590776 said:
carpenter sounds like the fake wade phillips on the ticket.

i cant get over that when I listen to him now.

Carpenter needs to shut up. His talking is part of what is wrong here.

If it wasnt so sad it would be funny.

:hammer:
 

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I have no problems with Carpenter speaking his mind, just as I have no problems with TO or Garrett speaking their minds.

My problem is with certain things schematically, being prepared, lack of focus and execution, decision making, multiple mistakes on the field, these things are things I can't stand.
 

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good interview. points out the obvious problems TO brings to america's soapopera.

carp must have an "agenda" and be working with "ed werder" though because he didn't glowing praise the biggest whack-a-doo in sports

:laugh2:
 

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Not exactly any revelations there. TO brings baggage- well DUH.
 

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Personally, I would like to see what Bobby can do in the starting lineup. If he can't cut it, then put him back to 2nd string or w/e.
The guy is a solid role player, that is what most people want around here not? More players that know their role?
He doesn't complain, just trys to get the job done.
 

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ajk23az;2590961 said:
Personally, I would like to see what Bobby can do in the starting lineup. If he can't cut it, then put him back to 2nd string or w/e.
The guy is a solid role player, that is what most people want around here not? More players that know their role?
He doesn't complain, just trys to get the job done.

Is he really a solid role player? I guess he's an OK special teams player. But how many defensive snaps did he even get last year? Ten?
 

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RainMan;2590965 said:
Is he really a solid role player? I guess he's an OK special teams player. But how many defensive snaps did he even get last year? Ten?

Besides Keith Davis he is probably out best ST player. (Except for that missed block on the punt in AZ)

Kevin Burnett didn't miss a game this year and Bobby was behind him on the depth chart and now Kevin might not be re-signed so hopefully Bobby knows he has to step it up, could be wishful thinking on my part, but i have hope. :eek::
 

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What? T.O. brings baggage to a team? Really?

Like we didn't know this when we picked him up...like Philly didn't know that when they picked him up.

Like this is honestly ANY big deal.....yet, the fans will spout off about it being "news" that a guy like T.O. brings baggage. :rolleyes:
 

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RainMan;2590965 said:
Is he really a solid role player? I guess he's an OK special teams player. But how many defensive snaps did he even get last year? Ten?

He is excellent on ST and really Wade never plays younger players. James Thomas and Burnett were the only people in the rotation and you look at how much players like Spencer, Austin, and the like were given and its pretty evident that Wade doesn't like taking chances to play a younger guy unless he has to like Bnenett or our corners. Even then when Pacman came back he was basically handed the starter spot back despite Jenkins playing better and Scandrick playing very well.

Henry gets to start if that doesn't tell you enough. I have said this in the past but if they would give Carp a chance like Parcells did his first year I think he will play well. He just hasn't gotten that chance. I have been saying this for awhile and I realize its unpopular but I will maintain my stance.

I was the same way with Austin and i know how that has turned out. Carp has been given two roles in his career. Starter at OLB as a rookie and ST since. he has played very well at both. I just don't buy that the guy forgot how to play football all of a sudden especially since he hasn't had a major injury.
 

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The Cowboys were looking at inside linebackers last year. They really liked Jerod Mayo, but he shot out of range. They looked at that guy from UNLV, too.

I don't know what Carpenter's cap hit would be, but in my opinion, when someone on your team is calling you "Barbie" and when Jerry Jones calls you a "finesse" player, the hand writing is on the wall.
 

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chinch;2590939 said:
good interview. points out the obvious problems TO brings to america's soapopera.

carp must have an "agenda" and be working with "ed werder" though because he didn't glowing praise the biggest whack-a-doo in sports

:laugh2:

rofl at you and any dufus who is trying to milk this as evidence of anything.

carpenter flat out sucks. he is not even active half the time.

this guy who is basically a glorified practice squadder is going to discuss anything? that is priceless.

what carpenter should do is go workout with t.o. in the summer and maybe then he could actually be able to live up to his draft hype.

t.o. does bring baggage... carpenter just brings a bag.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2591014 said:
He is excellent on ST and really Wade never plays younger players. James Thomas and Burnett were the only people in the rotation and you look at how much players like Spencer, Austin, and the like were given and its pretty evident that Wade doesn't like taking chances to play a younger guy unless he has to like Bnenett or our corners. Even then when Pacman came back he was basically handed the starter spot back despite Jenkins playing better and Scandrick playing very well.

Henry gets to start if that doesn't tell you enough. I have said this in the past but if they would give Carp a chance like Parcells did his first year I think he will play well. He just hasn't gotten that chance. I have been saying this for awhile and I realize its unpopular but I will maintain my stance.

I was the same way with Austin and i know how that has turned out. Carp has been given two roles in his career. Starter at OLB as a rookie and ST since. he has played very well at both. I just don't buy that the guy forgot how to play football all of a sudden especially since he hasn't had a major injury.

Are you taking medication? Barbie Carpenter is about as physical as Mike Jenkins. He has had some chances but he even sucks in the pre-season. And his defensive weaknesses are the kind of stuff not even a coach nicknamed cupcake forgives. Carpenter has been on the field due to injuries and limited scenarios and he is simply not able to go out and take on blockers at all.

Wade Phillips will play young guys when they are good. Scandrick was a 5th round rookie and played a ton. He played week 1 and EVERY game.

What was the last Cowboys first round draft pick to be inactive yet healthy on game days under 2 different head coaches?

I wanted us to draft Carpenter I thought he would be good here but he clearly didn't have the toughness his dad did. Way too much pretty boy in him to be a linebacker.
 

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jterrell;2591052 said:
Are you taking medication? Barbie Carpenter is about as physical as Mike Jenkins. He has had some chances but he even sucks in the pre-season. And his defensive weaknesses are the kind of stuff not even a coach nicknamed cupcake forgives. Carpenter has been on the field due to injuries and limited scenarios and he is simply not able to go out and take on blockers at all.

Wade Phillips will play young guys when they are good. Scandrick was a 5th round rookie and played a ton. He played week 1 and EVERY game.

What was the last Cowboys first round draft pick to be inactive yet healthy on game days under 2 different head coaches?

I wanted us to draft Carpenter I thought he would be good here but he clearly didn't have the toughness his dad did. Way too much pretty boy in him to be a linebacker.

Week 1 Pacman and Newman were hurt. When Pac came back he was handed the starting job no question.

Whatever dude look at the film from his rookie year he stood his ground consistently. The dude cover kicks and punches wedges. Soft gys do that all the time.There have been two times in the preseason hes gotten plays int he middle. One time his thigh was hurt and the other the opposing oline was blowing our guys 3+ yards off the line of scrimmage.

As i said it won't be the popular opinion, but the herd mentality so prevalent here doesn't sawy me.
 

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keep trolling for TO . barbie does suck, doesn't change the facts though.

:laugh2:

dufus? LOL welcome to 1980.

jterrell;2591039 said:
rofl at you and any dufus who is trying to milk this as evidence of anything.

carpenter flat out sucks. he is not even active half the time.

this guy who is basically a glorified practice squadder is going to discuss anything? that is priceless.

what carpenter should do is go workout with t.o. in the summer and maybe then he could actually be able to live up to his draft hype.

t.o. does bring baggage... carpenter just brings a bag.
 

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The Cowboys were looking at inside linebackers last year. They really liked Jerod Mayo, but he shot out of range. They looked at that guy from UNLV, too.

I don't know what Carpenter's cap hit would be, but in my opinion, when someone on your team is calling you "Barbie" and when Jerry Jones calls you a "finesse" player, the hand writing is on the wall.

Any player named 'Bobby,' with that hair, is going to be called Barbie on any team with even an ounce of creativity. IIRC, that comment from Hard Knocks came from one of his friends on the team. Colombo, was it?
 

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everybody says "he brings baggage" ...what baggage??! Nobody is ever specific. things that happened 3-4+years ago? Good grief, the only people re-hashing all the old stories are the idiots in the media and the milk-fed zombie masses that eat up what ESPN tells them
 

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Bobby Carpenter is a terrible football player and it amazes me that with how bad our ST coverage units were we're "lauding" him for being average in that capacity at best.

This is the first guy that should go. We don't need bad football players on the Dallas Cowboys regarless of their relationship with the QB. Bobby sucks like suck has never sucked before or ever will again.
 
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