Audio: Werder on GAC - Romo to blame?

[Boyzmamacita]

Werder said Felix isn't good at catching the ball. I wasn't aware of this. They hardly ever throw it to him. Maybe that's why, but this is the first time I have heard it.

 

[dcfanatic]

See what I mean Joe?

:laugh2:

 

[adbutcher]

:laugh2:

 

[dcfanatic]

Because you're a blogger, you've got a fascination with thinking media people have power, and you attribute it to others on the board where it doesn't exist.

It's the media's job to inform, and in that capacity they sway public opinion. When they do it poorly or with unsubstantiated claims, they're not doing their jobs. It's not a question of power. It's a question of reporting faithfully and doing a respectable job. It's not that hard, and it doesn't require any special talent.

I just said he doesn't have as much power as some think.

Werder didn't get T.O. fired. T.O. got himself fired.

The point about still having sources at Valley Ranch was proven because it became obvious some wanted him gone. And then he was shipped off.

The media doesn't have ANY power? In 2009?

Surely you are being sarcastic.

Not to make this anything about politics, but a quick look into that world will tell you that the media is very powerful in some facets of this world.

And stop telling anyone what the job is of the media.

You don't decide what's news worthy. What was reporting and journalism in 1950 is relevant to 1950.

The media of 2009 is relevant to this day and age. Things change. We don't drive the same cars from 1950 or raise children in the manner we did in 1950 so why would the media follow that 1950's format here in 2009?

Your talking about a field that has thousands of competitors all fighting for their work to be read/heard/watched. Why would 'just the fact's ma'am' still work in today's world?

It wouldn't and the entire industry would be doomed. It's about survival.

Start up an all sports network where two computer generated talking heads sit behind a desk and spit out the facts and figures of a football game.

Then go back a week later and see how many people are watching that borefest, lol.

Just because you don't like what the media has evolved into doesn't mean it's being done incorrectly. It just means that you, one man, doesn't like it.

And trust me. ESPN and Ed Werder could really care less that one man isn't a fan anymore. When the majority doesn't like the product you will see change.

 

[Cover 2]

Good news. I am glad that punk is getting his just deserves. Ain't Karma grand.

It sounds like he sacrificed his career for one big story. Not a smart move by him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So in summary, it's perfectly okay to do basically anything that gets higher ratings, no matter if it's truthful or not.

I'd say most of us disagree with that. Not just one man.

 

[kmd24]

True that. Not only in reporting on this team, but the Giant's as well. They've got enough "stories" reported by him that have zero basis in fact.

Exhibit 1, the first game in 2007 where Eddie * for Brains reported that NY "team sources" indicated that Elisha would be out for 2-4 weeks. Remind me again, how many weeks did Eli miss?

Oh, that's right he didn't miss a single practice. We've seen the same thing here, time and again. Ed's sources might as well be a Magic 8 Ball and a talking My Little Pony.

I remember Chris Mortensen reporting that, but don't remember if Werder did.

 

[adbutcher]

So in summary, it's perfectly okay to do basically anything that gets higher ratings, no matter if it's truthful or not.

I'd say most of us disagree with that. Not just one man.

It sounds like he sacrificed his career for one big story. Not a smart move by him.

 

[Cover 2]

I have been saying that too.

Around the same time of the pinky thing there was talk from Brady Tinker, golfs with Romo, about a thumb injury that maybe wasn't really an 'injury'.

And it seems like that and the broken pinky have affected his passes to where he has a lot more passes sail high and wide on him.

I remember thinking at the time of the injuries that I was hoping it didn't turn into a Warner situation. But he has always started off games with his accuracy not 100%, but then he gets warmed up and starts hitting everything on target, so who knows?

 

[kmd24]

And trust me. ESPN and Ed Werder could really care less that one man isn't a fan anymore. When the majority doesn't like the product you will see change.

It's a bigger issue for Werder than ESPN. Werder is replacable. If his stories lose credibility, ESPN will stop relying on him.

And I think you're wrong about the "one fan" thing. You can't please everyone, sure, but it's dangerous to generate outspoken opponents, which is exactly what Werder is doing.

 

[TwoDeep3]

DCFanatic is correct. Werder said it and spoke the truth.

Romo has been inaccurate this season.

 

[21Savage]

DCFanatic is correct. Werder said it and spoke the truth.

Romo has been inaccurate this season.

Great to see you on a thread that speak negatively about Romo. Where were you when Miles and Romo were having their cup of tea?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Great to see you on a thread that speak negatively about Romo. Where were you when Miles and Romo were having their cup of tea?

I guess you didn't see the threads I have commented in that state Romo has trouble this year with crossing routes but is accurate on the vertical ones.

You think you know what I think about Romo. Funny that you never are in the threads where I defend him.

So who here truly has the agenda?

 

[JBond]

I guess you didn't see the threads I have commented in that state Romo has trouble this year with crossing routes but is accurate on the vertical ones.

You think you know what I think about Romo. Funny that you never are in the threads where I defend him.

So who here truly has the agenda?

Having coached a little, it is very hard to be consistently accurate with a side arm delivery. He resorts to it when trying to throw around his giant linemen and when under pressure. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Idgit]

I just said he doesn't have as much power as some think.

Werder didn't get T.O. fired. T.O. got himself fired.

The point about still having sources at Valley Ranch was proven because it became obvious some wanted him gone. And then he was shipped off.

The media doesn't have ANY power? In 2009?

Surely you are being sarcastic.

Not to make this anything about politics, but a quick look into that world will tell you that the media is very powerful in some facets of this world.

And stop telling anyone what the job is of the media.

You don't decide what's news worthy. What was reporting and journalism in 1950 is relevant to 1950.

The media of 2009 is relevant to this day and age. Things change. We don't drive the same cars from 1950 or raise children in the manner we did in 1950 so why would the media follow that 1950's format here in 2009?

Your talking about a field that has thousands of competitors all fighting for their work to be read/heard/watched. Why would 'just the fact's ma'am' still work in today's world?

It wouldn't and the entire industry would be doomed. It's about survival.

Start up an all sports network where two computer generated talking heads sit behind a desk and spit out the facts and figures of a football game.

Then go back a week later and see how many people are watching that borefest, lol.

Just because you don't like what the media has evolved into doesn't mean it's being done incorrectly. It just means that you, one man, doesn't like it.

And trust me. ESPN and Ed Werder could really care less that one man isn't a fan anymore. When the majority doesn't like the product you will see change.

The majority likes McDonnald's hamburgers and supersized fries with a half-gallon of coke at mealtime. The majority watches 4 hours of tv a night and goes to movies called 'Twilight' because they can't wrap their brains around the book. The majority is fat, stupid, and unhealthy.

You seem to think majority-rule is a sensible system for meting information, I don't. But don't make the mistake of thinking just because something is popular that it's done right or that it's helpful, or even worthwhile.

Conveying poorly researched opinions is not power. If fans want to forfeit their judgment in favor of those opinions, that's on the fans, not on the media. But you'll never get me to agree that something has to be unsupportable or insipid in order to be interesting. And I don't think that's a 1950s sensibility. I'd like to think we care about accuracy in 2009, but that's just me.

 

[dcfanatic]

So in summary, it's perfectly okay to do basically anything that gets higher ratings, no matter if it's truthful or not.

I'd say most of us disagree with that. Not just one man.

He's reporting what was told to him.

What is he a lie detector?

Now nothing can be reported unless there is video/audio evidence of it?

I would be fine with it.

Would the print media? No.

Get it?

 

[dcfanatic]

Nail on the head that Ed Werder sacrificed his career?



He's still the number one field reporter for ESPN.

Where has he been most of this season?

Covering Favre in Minny. The biggest NFC story.

 

[adbutcher]

The majority likes McDonnald's hamburgers and supersized fries with a half-gallon of coke at mealtime. The majority watches 4 hours of tv a night and goes to movies called 'Twilight' because they can't wrap their brains around the book. The majority is fat, stupid, and unhealthy.

You seem to think majority-rule is a sensible system for meting information, I don't. But don't make the mistake of thinking just because something is popular that it's done right or that it's helpful, or even worthwhile.

Conveying poorly researched opinions is not power. If fans want to forfeit their judgment in favor of those opinions, that's on the fans, not on the media. But you'll never get me to agree that something has to be unsupportable or insipid in order to be interesting. And I don't think that's a 1950s sensibility. I'd like to think we care about accuracy in 2009, but that's just me.

Oh my, this is one brilliant post.

What is funny is that being a journalist/columnist/reporter use to consist of having some honesty, ethics, and at least a modicum of integrity. Now being a flat out liar or screwy with the truth is sufficient as long as the majority agree with your lies or less than honest representation of the facts. A wise man once said, “Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life”, but at least it is blissful.

 

[adbutcher]

Nail on the head that Ed Werder sacrificed his career?



He's still the number one field reporter for ESPN.

Where has he been most of this season?

Covering Favre in Minny. The biggest NFC story.

After all that have been posted, this is what you are clinging to? Typical...

He has been exposed as a hack in Dallas and the last I checked what is going on at Valley Ranch is the biggest story in the NFL.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't know or care what his 'peers' think about him, but Werder is a hack. That's been established.

I know some of Mr. Blue Suit's sports journalism peers who have told me point blank that they really question his credibility the past couple of years and think he did a real hatchet job on Owens. And some of these people have told me that detest Owens, but Mr. Blue Suit did a really shoddy job on that report and there was a clear conflict of interest.

That being said, I do know many of his peers that do respect the guy. But I also know many peers that respect fraudulent, scumbag attorneys who have zero ethics. And many peers who respect embezzling politicians.

Peers tend to stick up for peers regardless of profession. I learned that a long time ago when my ole man would always stick up for HS teachers (he used to be a HS teacher himself) regardless of some of the things, some of which were downright heinous, they did.

Plus, Mr. Blue Suit is in a position of authority. The newspapers are dying and it's always been quite common for sports writers to find new avenues to work in if anything to help supplement their income. ESPN is a powerful sports media outlet becaue it's practicaly everywhere and that includes local radio and possible big-time TV. So I keep these critics of Mr. Blue Suit anonymous becaue ESPN simply won't let them on their airwaves if they tell the world how they really feel about Mr. Blue Suit's journalistic integrity.






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