Average yards for a Rookie RB over the past 5 seasons!

[jksmith269]

These numbers are from ESPN Draft magazine. The Stats are compiled by Scouts Inc.

RB's taken in the draft over the past 5 years. RD-#taken-Average Yards in rookie season

Round 1- 14 RB's Taken in the first round- average yrds 619

Round 2- 10 RB's Taken- average yrds-338

Round 3- 10 RB's Taken- Average- 198

Round 4- 19 RB's Taken- Average- 184

Round 5- 4 RB's Taken- Average- 56

Rounds 6&7- 30 RB's Taken- Average- 0

Now why did I bring this up? JJ! He had 819 yrds his Injury shortened Rookie year...... after his rookie year he changed how he ran was this because BP or was it him???? I Don't know but before I go trading him and drafting a Rookie I think I'd look hard at these numbers and I'd prob give him another year to see if it was him or BP who changed his style.... I'm hoping it was BP and he goes back to his old way of running as long as it's without the fumbles....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

good post, many might think Julius is average, but getting 1,000 yards isn't a sure thing, although it's not as impressive as it once was

 

[Doomsday101]

I have no dislike of Jones but honestly I expect more out of my starting RB than what he has shown. I would love nothing better than for Jones to start showing up week in and week out but thus far all we have seen are spurts and now that he is heading into the last year of his contract I would think he has to put it all together if he expects to remain in Dallas beyond this coming season.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I have no dislike of Jones but honestly I expect more out of my starting RB than what he has shown. I would love nothing better than for Jones to start showing up week in and week out but thus far all we have seen are spurts and now that he is heading into the last year of his contract I would think he has to put it all together if he expects to remain in Dallas beyond this coming season.

I admit that Jones needs to do a better job of eluding the safety in the open field, but you can't expect much from a starting Rb when he only has one side of the field to work w/, the left-side

 

[Doomsday101]

I admit that Jones needs to do a better job of eluding the safety in the open field, but you can't expect much from a starting Rb when he only has one side of the field to work w/, the left-side

Well we both admit he needs to do a better job. I also think he has to do a better job of making people miss and a better job of breaking tackles, too often I'm seeing him tripped up with arm tackles. I don't expect him to run over people but I do expect better balance and ability to shake arm tackles. Jones to me goes down way to easy.

 

[starfrombirth]

I admit that Jones needs to do a better job of eluding the safety in the open field, but you can't expect much from a starting Rb when he only has one side of the field to work w/, the left-side

When did he realistically have even that much?

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Julius Jones wasn't the problem majority of the time, it was the offensive line...

 

[Aikbach]

Julius jones has inherited a position spoiled by NFL royalty and so anything less than that type of performance from him is scrutinized.

He shows flashes of Dorsett, he just needs to stay healthy and have a good line in the same year so that people can see what he's capable of doing.

 

[theogt]

We all know he had a great rookie season. The problem is that he hasn't done squat since. It would be much more useful if you could come up with the stats for 2nd and 3rd seasons.

 

[Aikbach]

We all know he had a great rookie season. The problem is that he hasn't done squat since. It would be much more useful if you could come up with the stats for 2nd and 3rd seasons.

That isn't true, he shows flashes of dominace but then the team would pull him out like during the New Orleans game or abandon the run and use him incorrectly.

He's not flawless but he has been grossly missused these past two seasons.

Ask Carolina if he has done "squat" in two years.

 

[jksmith269]

We all know he had a great rookie season. The problem is that he hasn't done squat since. It would be much more useful if you could come up with the stats for 2nd and 3rd seasons.

What I wass trying to show was that with JJ we know we are going to get close +/- 1000 Yrds and if you draft a RB other than RD 1 to replace him chances are your going to lose 700+/- yards. I'd rather take my chances with JJ one more year than looking to a Rookie or MB3 alone.....

 

[theogt]

That isn't true, he shows flashes of dominace but then the team would pull him out like during the New Orleans game or abandon the run and use him incorrectly.

He's not flawless but he has been grossly missused these past two seasons.

Ask Carolina if he has done "squat" in two years.

Look. A back that only "flashes" once every 4-5 games isn't going to cut it. He wasn't misused -- he simply missed his opportunity. He's about as good as gone.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

That isn't true, he shows flashes of dominace but then the team would pull him out like during the New Orleans game or abandon the run and use him incorrectly.

He's not flawless but he has been grossly missused these past two seasons.

Ask Carolina if he has done "squat" in two years.

Yeah, teams have to know what plays works best for their key players!

 

[theogt]

What I wass trying to show was that with JJ we know we are going to get close +/- 1000 Yrds and if you draft a RB other than RD 1 to replace him chances are your going to lose 700+/- yards. I'd rather take my chances with JJ one more year than looking to a Rookie or MB3 alone.....

Total yards is meaningless. You should look at YPC. I'd rather take my chances that MB3 can make it through an entire season unscathed. We can most likely draft a 2nd/3rd round RB that can average 4.1 YPC spelling Barber.

 

[jksmith269]

Total yards is meaningless. You should look at YPC. I'd rather take my chances that MB3 can make it through an entire season unscathed. We can most likely draft a 2nd/3rd round RB that can average 4.1 YPC spelling Barber.

Thats your take but like I said I'd rather hang onto him and MB3 this year. what if we did trade JJ and MB3 got injured then what? JMO

 

[TwentyOne]

These numbers are from ESPN Draft magazine. The Stats are compiled by Scouts Inc.

RB's taken in the draft over the past 5 years. RD-#taken-Average Yards in rookie season

Round 1- 14 RB's Taken in the first round- average yrds 619

Round 2- 10 RB's Taken- average yrds-338

Round 3- 10 RB's Taken- Average- 198

Round 4- 19 RB's Taken- Average- 184

Round 5- 4 RB's Taken- Average- 56

Rounds 6&7- 30 RB's Taken- Average- 0

Now why did I bring this up? JJ! He had 819 yrds his Injury shortened Rookie year...... after his rookie year he changed how he ran was this because BP or was it him???? I Don't know but before I go trading him and drafting a Rookie I think I'd look hard at these numbers and I'd prob give him another year to see if it was him or BP who changed his style.... I'm hoping it was BP and he goes back to his old way of running as long as it's without the fumbles....

To me those numbers are missing important information before they can be compared with each other.

For example: usually RBs selected in the 3rd round only play backup roles at their position. So their numbers have to be lower then a RB who is used as the teams #1 back.

For me needed information would be:

• How many games did they play?
• How many touches did they get per game?
• Was he the #1 back or the backup?
• When did he get his touches 1st to 4th quarter?

Something like that. To make a statement like what Runniback had a good year in his rookie season to me those naked numbers don't have enough information.

As for JJ: 819yds in his rookie season is really some good stuff. But JJ wasn't in question about his running skills after his first year. Not at all. To me the mood around vally ranch was just the oposit. Everyone was very pleased with what they had seen from JJ. Only his durability was in question. To me it had alot to do with Bill Parcells that JJ bulked up and tried to change his running style to become - but what was more important - to prove he is an everydown everygame back.
But IMO that change didn't fit his abilities. Last season he looked slow and lacked quickness. He looked stiff in his hips and seldom made people miss. That was something he was very good in in his rookie year. IMO he has to go back to this kind of running style because he is more of a barry sanders then an emmit smith type of back.

 

[theogt]

Thats your take but like I said I'd rather hang onto him and MB3 this year. what if we did trade JJ and MB3 got injured then what? JMO

Of course we'd have to have a solid back up for MB3. We can keep Julius for that; I don't really care who the backup is. That is, unless they plan on feeding MB3 90+% of the carries, at which point it would make more sense to get value out of Julius through trading.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Now why did I bring this up? JJ! He had 819 yrds his Injury shortened Rookie year...... after his rookie year he changed how he ran was this because BP or was it him???? I Don't know but before I go trading him and drafting a Rookie I think I'd look hard at these numbers and I'd prob give him another year to see if it was him or BP who changed his style.... I'm hoping it was BP and he goes back to his old way of running as long as it's without the fumbles....

Really good point. I'm all for unloading JuJo, but this is honestly something I never considered. Though on the otherhand, it could also be a setback for him to revert to his old way of running style after 2 years. And god forbid, but what if Bill was absolutely right on the nail with this one and his former technique was nothing more than a disaster waiting to happen? The old man did see him first hand everyday. It's a crap shoot whichever way you think with JuJo, but nonetheless still a good point to consider that you brought up.