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Im going to start off with the biggest topic and thats Dez. Like everybody else i wish he was signed but he isnt and like Stephen said its probably too late to get one done. For all you trying to wreck your brains on why he isnt signed, Stephen told everybody why in a interview before the draft. Dallas doesnt want to get in a situation like AZ and HOU had with Fitz and Johnson. Basically they dont want to be paying Dez alot of guaranteed money 4 yrs down the road. Love what Dez brings to the table, but the longer this goes on the less i care if he gets signed long term or is franchised again and let walk in 2017. He brings a dynamic that few teams have, but i think they could get by with a lesser type that can run all the routes. Dallas wouldnt have the big play type of offense IMO, but this OL makes everything a little bit easier.

The RB situation, Im sure the team will lose some of the physical running we all got to see from Murray last yr, but with the holes this OL gives i think with more shifty backs we are going to see bigger runs. Randle and McFadden and straight out fly to the opening. We saw a glimpse of that with Randle last yr. Alot of people are questioning this team not selecting a RB in RD3. Nobody that they couldve gotten after Gordon or Gurley are better then what the team has now.

Cant believe the amount of depth this OL has. Seems like the team is set for the next decade. Getting Collins was amazing, and Green will be ok next yr, They dont even need him this yr. Tyron, Free, Collins, and Weems will be just fine. Green can rehab and spend the yr getting his strength up.

Dallas is absolutely loaded at DE. Once Hardys situation is settled wow. I think he will be suspended 2 games because his case falls under the old rules, not the post Rice rules. Gregory seems to be getting better but his weight is a scary thing in the NFL. That needs to get up. Lawrence coming in at 260 caught me off guard. But i like it alot. He needs to improve his run defense tho. Improve his ability to get off blocks. Fight his hands rather then allowing the tackle to get on him. I think Ben Gardner is going to suprise alot of people at DE. The strong side, and i think he will be in the rotation.

Its amazing to see Sean Lee going full speed the only way he knows how to play without a knee brace or even a sleeve. That shows the dedication he has in getting back. I think Dallas will play it cautious with him during the offseason but i think thats more to do with him not ever taking it below 100mph. The guy gives everything all the time.

This yr i think Dallas will open up its offense and go for more quick strikes because they feel comfortable with their defense. So do i. Last yr they had to ground and pound because the defense was the weakness. This yr i think we are going to see quick hits in the running game, and the passing game. TW has improved alot. Im excited to see what this team does to improve from last yrs record. Enjoy this team, and let the organization do their jobs. Happy fathers day to all the dads.
 

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Im going to start off with the biggest topic and thats Dez. Like everybody else i wish he was signed but he isnt and like Stephen said its probably too late to get one done. For all you trying to wreck your brains on why he isnt signed, Stephen told everybody why in a interview before the draft. Dallas doesnt want to get in a situation like AZ and HOU had with Fitz and Johnson. Basically they dont want to be paying Dez alot of guaranteed money 4 yrs down the road. Love what Dez brings to the table, but the longer this goes on the less i care if he gets signed long term or is franchised again and let walk in 2017. He brings a dynamic that few teams have, but i think they could get by with a lesser type that can run all the routes. Dallas wouldnt have the big play type of offense IMO, but this OL makes everything a little bit easier.

The RB situation, Im sure the team will lose some of the physical running we all got to see from Murray last yr, but with the holes this OL gives i think with more shifty backs we are going to see bigger runs. Randle and McFadden and straight out fly to the opening. We saw a glimpse of that with Randle last yr. Alot of people are questioning this team not selecting a RB in RD3. Nobody that they couldve gotten after Gordon or Gurley are better then what the team has now.

Cant believe the amount of depth this OL has. Seems like the team is set for the next decade. Getting Collins was amazing, and Green will be ok next yr, They dont even need him this yr. Tyron, Free, Collins, and Weems will be just fine. Green can rehab and spend the yr getting his strength up.

Dallas is absolutely loaded at DE. Once Hardys situation is settled wow. I think he will be suspended 2 games because his case falls under the old rules, not the post Rice rules. Gregory seems to be getting better but his weight is a scary thing in the NFL. That needs to get up. Lawrence coming in at 260 caught me off guard. But i like it alot. He needs to improve his run defense tho. Improve his ability to get off blocks. Fight his hands rather then allowing the tackle to get on him. I think Ben Gardner is going to suprise alot of people at DE. The strong side, and i think he will be in the rotation.

Its amazing to see Sean Lee going full speed the only way he knows how to play without a knee brace or even a sleeve. That shows the dedication he has in getting back. I think Dallas will play it cautious with him during the offseason but i think thats more to do with him not ever taking it below 100mph. The guy gives everything all the time.

This yr i think Dallas will open up its offense and go for more quick strikes because they feel comfortable with their defense. So do i. Last yr they had to ground and pound because the defense was the weakness. This yr i think we are going to see quick hits in the running game, and the passing game. TW has improved alot. Im excited to see what this team does to improve from last yrs record. Enjoy this team, and let the organization do their jobs. Happy fathers day to all the dads.

Good post. You dont think we can get a deal done with Dez before the deadline?
 

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Good post. You dont think we can get a deal done with Dez before the deadline?

I dont because Dez wants big moey thru the whole deal and team wants a front end guaranteed deal. And i dont think the team is in the same zipcode as Dez in the guaranteed money range.

I got annoyed at Dez comments too on his tweet about 13mil being cool but...

While that may be true dont be a ****** bag and voice that on social media. Let your agents voice that to the teams. Wonder if he knows how people view athletes talking about their money struggles. When he's wreckless with his words like that you can understand why the team still has people babysitting him.
 

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Dallas is absolutely loaded at DE. Once Hardys situation is settled wow. I think he will be suspended 2 games because his case falls under the old rules, not the post Rice rules. Gregory seems to be getting better but his weight is a scary thing in the NFL. That needs to get up. Lawrence coming in at 260 caught me off guard. But i like it alot. He needs to improve his run defense tho. Improve his ability to get off blocks. Fight his hands rather then allowing the tackle to get on him. I think Ben Gardner is going to suprise alot of people at DE. The strong side, and i think he will be in the rotation.


So, you've come around to Lawrence playing on the strongside?
 

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So, you've come around to Lawrence playing on the strongside?

Why has he played any snaps there this yr yet? Im just impressed in his added size for now. Now he just has to show he can play the run and show he can handle the doubles
 

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Why has he played any snaps there this yr yet? Im just impressed in his added size for now. Now he just has to show he can play the run and show he can handle the doubles

Oh, so you still don't think he plays at SDE? I guess we'll see. Maybe you're right.
 

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Just this past week. Basically said they wouldlove to get a new deal but says with the time frame its probably too late.

I didn't read that, are you sure Stephen said it and the person writing the article didn't opine it instead?
 

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Why has he played any snaps there this yr yet? Im just impressed in his added size for now. Now he just has to show he can play the run and show he can handle the doubles

He was been practicing almost exclusively at Strong Side DE this off-season.
 

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Frankly I'd be shocked if Stephen said that it was too late on July 13th. There is absolutely no way he'd say it's too late to get a deal done, Jerry has always been a believer that 'deadlines make deals' and that has carried over to Stephen.
 

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Oh, so you still don't think he plays at SDE? I guess we'll see. Maybe you're right.

They have said that Lawrence is definitely playing the Strong Side the season and can even play DT in the Nickel.

Lawrence has never had an issue playing the run. He was terrific playing the run in college. He was top 2 or 3 of the quality pass rushers in his draft at playing the run.
 

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They have said that Lawrence is definitely playing the Strong Side the season and can even play DT in the Nickel.

Lawrence has never had an issue playing the run. He was terrific playing the run in college. He was top 2 or 3 of the quality pass rushers in his draft at playing the run.

Yes, I know. However, I already argued with him last Jan and I'm not going to do it anymore,
 

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I really like the idea of the offense striking quick and getting big plays out of the passing game. Going to be fun to watch, I agree
 

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Frankly I'd be shocked if Stephen said that it was too late on July 13th. There is absolutely no way he'd say it's too late to get a deal done, Jerry has always been a believer that 'deadlines make deals' and that has carried over to Stephen.

I recall him saying something about it being almost too late in the process to be this far apart on the numbers.

Obviously, he didn't say it is absolutely too late to get a deal done, but he inferred that it is unlikely.

The Cowboys attitude when talking to the media has been they they don't really care if they get a deal done because they have the franchise tag. It is exactly the attitude they should have when negotiating. If you've ever tried to buy something from one of those old guys that sell stuff at trade days, they will come across as if they could care less if you buy it and almost give the impression they prefer to keep the item.
 

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Yes, I know. However, I already argued with him last Jan and I'm not going to do it anymore,

You won, hands down. The Cowboys have moved him to the strong side. Lawrence himself said that he prefers that side. The fact that they are talking about him playing some snaps at DT is the opposite end of the spectrum from them being worried about his strength an that type of thing.
 

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I recall him saying something about it being almost too late in the process to be this far apart on the numbers.

Obviously, he didn't say it is absolutely too late to get a deal done, but he inferred that it is unlikely.

The Cowboys attitude when talking to the media has been they they don't really care if they get a deal done because they have the franchise tag. It is exactly the attitude they should have when negotiating. If you've ever tried to buy something from one of those old guys that sell stuff at trade days, they will come across as if they could care less if you buy it and almost give the impression they prefer to keep the item.

He said the gap is too wide, but he never said anything about it being too late. Unless I've missed something, and if he had said that it was too late I'd expect there to be 30 threads about it right now on CZ. I just reread the quotes from earlier in the week, in no way did he say or imply that it's too late in the process to get a deal done. Maybe he said something that I just missed, but I can't imagine that wouldn't be the headline on NFL.com if he had said that.
 

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All good stuff. With or without Dez, as we lament about Dunbar being unused, I'd also like to see Escobar being incorporated. they need to "borrow" the shifts and sets that Payton in New Orleans and N.Eng. used to single up the supersized TE in big mismatches. Escobars size alone makes him a outside target ala Gronc down the side line that will if nothing else free up inside patterns. Escobar has to earn Romo's trust to be in the right place--right time.
 

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Why has he played any snaps there this yr yet? Im just impressed in his added size for now. Now he just has to show he can play the run and show he can handle the doubles

If teams want to double Lawrence this year..... By all means have at it.
 
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