Bad Year For A Top 5 Pick?

[darthseinfeld]

This draft kind of reminds me of 2013 where there were no clear cut elite prospects amd you saw teams " reaching" in the top 10 of the draft. Unfortunately if I am correct, it could make trading down virtually impossible

Tunsil to me looks like the only rock solid top 5 prospect ( and by that I mean a prospect that would go Top 5 in most drafts.

Joey Bosa is a solid prospect, but while there arent questions he will turn into a solid DE at the next, there are alot of questions as to whether he will be an elite pass rusher.

Jalen Ramsey and Vernon Hargreaves are both solid top 15 guys in any draft, but as high as they will likely go, you want to see a little more. Ramsey wasnt much of a playmaker in college notching 3 career picks. He is a good prospect, but not as goof as Berry and Thomas were in 2010.

It looks like a deep and strong QB class, but class similar to 2014 where you didnt have anyone really worth the top overall pick. I view Lynch as a Ryan/Bortled level prospect who is definitely good enough to go top 5 but will give you pause going #1. Goff fits into that as well.

Treadwell is a solid Top 10 prospect, but isnt quite the level of Watkins and Cooper of the last few years even though he could wind up going close to as high as them.

Outside of Bosa, the rest of the field looks solid on the DL, but it doesnt look as though there are any franchise level DL you look for in the top 5/10 of the draft.

At OT Stanley is a very strong #2 OT, and a better prospect/OT then Martin was. After evaluations I could see hom creeping into the top 5 of the draft. I could even see a situation similar to 2013 where two OTs go 1 and 2, depending on who gets thise picks.

Its an abnormally strong LB class at the top with Jack and Smith. Both could be franchise level players in the pro's. I could see them being the like the OG's of 2013, going higher then projected because they are viewed as safer picks

 

[sureletsrace]

I agree. I really hope we can snag some extra 2nd and 3rd round picks, because that's where the value seems to be in this draft. Lots of decent guys in that range.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I agree. I really hope we can snag some extra 2nd and 3rd round picks, because that's where the value seems to be in this draft. Lots of decent guys in that range.

Problem is is that in drafts like this its it can be very difficult to trade down, especially that high. We could very well be in a situation where we are practically locked into a top 5 pick

 

[sureletsrace]

Problem is is that in drafts like this its it can be very difficult to trade down, especially that high. We could very well be in a situation where we are practically locked into a top 5 pick

Very true.

I think when all is said and done, Wentz will be regarded as a top 10 talent and I wouldn't be upset at all if we drafted him. It's really too early to tell though. There's a long way from here to the draft and a LOT will change.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Very true.

I think when all is said and done, Wentz will be regarded as a top 10 talent and I wouldn't be upset at all if we drafted him. It's really too early to tell though. There's a long way from here to the draft and a LOT will change.

Definitely. Senior Bowl will be huge for him. If he practices and plays well VS big school guys and takes well to NFL coaching he could leap Goff and challange Lynch. Physical ability wise he is not too far from Lynch.

But at the same time he could bomb the Senior Bowl and watch his stock tank.

As far as things changing. We are just now getting into the first of 3 phases where draft stocks have big changes. 1) Post season bowls. 2) Senior Bowl and Combine 3) Pro Days and Visits. I think #2 is most critical for Wentz

 

[btcutter]

At least there's a rookie cap so you won't be bankrupted signing these kids.
Perhaps it doesn't have the Aikman, Sanders, sanders type draft but I still rather pick high and have my choice of selection than picking leftovers.

 

[sureletsrace]

Definitely. Senior Bowl will be huge for him. If he practices and plays well VS big school guys and takes well to NFL coaching he could leap Goff and challange Lynch. Physical ability wise he is not too far from Lynch.

But at the same time he could bomb the Senior Bowl and watch his stock tank.

As far as things changing. We are just now getting into the first of 3 phases where draft stocks have big changes. 1) Post season bowls. 2) Senior Bowl and Combine 3) Pro Days and Visits. I think #2 is most critical for Wentz

For sure. It wouldn't surprise me if all 3 of those guys are gone by the 15th pick. The Senior Bowl and Combine are going to make or break Wentz.

 

[darthseinfeld]

At least there's a rookie cap so you won't be bankrupted signing these kids.
Perhaps it doesn't have the Aikman, Sanders, sanders type draft but I still rather pick high and have my choice of selection than picking leftovers.

Weak or no there will still be players that could have a huge impact on our team. Looking at what is there right now, Im looking at taking a QB, DB or LB with the pick

 

[darthseinfeld]

For sure. It wouldn't surprise me if all 3 of those guys are gone by the 15th pick. The Senior Bowl and Combine are going to make or break Wentz.

Doughty is another guy in a similar situation as Wentz although he wont go nearly as high. A great Senior Bowl pushes him into the 2nd ala Jimmy Garpopolo

 

[sureletsrace]

Doughty is another guy in a similar situation as Wentz although he wont go nearly as high. A great Senior Bowl pushes him into the 2nd ala Jimmy Garpopolo

Yep. I've been keeping up with Doughty since the beginning of last season. He intrigues me. I think I read somewhere that his 97 passing TDs the last two years is a new record.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yep. I've been keeping up with Doughty since the beginning of last season. He intrigues me. I think I read somewhere that his 97 passing TDs the last two years is a new record.

I dont think he has the pure arm power to move very high, but he definitely has an NFL arm and has a great touch on his ball as well as a good sense of timing. He is Brees type QB to me. Fitzpatrick, who I have seen Doughty compared too is a similar type QB, but he doesnt fit himself into a system as well as Brees does, who has been to the Pro Bowl playing in both a Norv Turner scheme and a Sean Payton scheme. Interviews should be huge for Doughty. If he can show coaches he has a high level of football intelligents and disciple , he can convince coachs he is someone to build around. Even though he is litterally the smartest person in the NFL, those two things are something Fitzpatrick has lapses in. He goes Brett Farve at times

 

[RS12]

I agree with this, I dont see any pick making a huge difference next year.

 

[RandyOh]

Our best chance at a trade back may be putting Tunsil and/or Stanley up for bid. Both are Blue chip prospects and fill a much needed and important position.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Our best chance at a trade back may be putting Tunsil and/or Stanley up for bid. Both are Blue chip prospects and fill a much needed and important position.

I think Tunsil is going to wind up going #1

 

[RandyOh]

I agree with this, I dont see any pick making a huge difference next year.

are you talking about with the top 5 pick or do u mean any of our picks general? Because a Top SS and/or a Top DT would make immediate difference on defense. especially in the run defense. Same goes for RB and WR for the offensive side of the ball.

 

[bodi]

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but not at 5

 

[RandyOh]

I think Tunsil is going to wind up going #1

a great chance that happens but Stanley also is a blue chip prospect that gets compared to our very own Tyron Smith. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple teams would be willing to move up a few spots to make sure they get him. Same goes for Lynch or Goff if Jerry and Stephen really do not want a QB in the 1st.

 

[darthseinfeld]

a great chance that happens but Stanley also is a blue chip prospect that gets compared to our very own Tyron Smith. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple teams would be willing to move up a few spots to make sure they get him. Same goes for Lynch or Goff if Jerry and Stephen really do not want a QB in the 1st.

I could honestly see Stanley going before our pick as well

 

[tm1119]

Definitely a weak year. That's why if either Lynch or Goff are available we have to draft them. Neither are perfect, but both have franchise QB potential in my eyes. I don't see any other true elite type prospects other than maybe o line.

 

[RS12]

are you talking about with the top 5 pick or do u mean any of our picks general? Because a Top SS and/or a Top DT would make immediate difference on defense. especially in the run defense. Same goes for RB and WR for the offensive side of the ball.

I dont see them picking any of the postions you mention because of the value ofa rookie contract or none of those positions are top 5 five on their board. The pick will either be CB or QB for a cheap contract, or LB for board rank.