Baldinger: Cowboys Red Zone offense has been a Dead Zone offense

[SteveTheCowboy]

yes and no. the route was lazy. the play design sucks. the WR had no chance. anything less than 100% perfect execution would fail as it did. same last week. its like MM is waving his hand going, just run over there and try this. there is no preciseness to the play designs. I mean on that eventual shuffle pass. TE is surrounded by several defenders and he is not even in the end zone and he is right next to another reciever (cooks?). What in the H!!?? and then Deuce is running right into Dak. Seriously!!!

you have to put the players in position to succeed. right now in redzone we are not doing that.

Wow..okay. you mentioned everyone is to blame...no mention of dak. Interesting.
I'm no play design or route running expert such as yourself. But looks like the pass was thrown out of bounds. That is...a difficult throw. Maybe a 6,6 wr makes that catch.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wow..okay. you mentioned everyone is to blame...no mention of dak. Interesting.
I'm no play design or route running expert such as yourself. But looks like the pass was thrown out of bounds. That is...a difficult throw. Maybe a 6,6 wr makes that catch.

I have mentioned multiple times Dak was at fault too. in multiple posts about redzone issues.
I did say, it had to be 100% perfect. the fact that it didn't work, means Dak wasn't perfect.... drive that conclusion


I will make sure to write war and peace in every response to include everything I have ever said, so you don't get ruffled.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Hopefully when the defense eventually tires the offense picks it up. We have a long year ahead of us.

The offense better step up. "We" blasted Cooper for relying on defense and were doing same thing now.

 

[T-RO]

Red zone is a flawed stat. Not meaningless, just flawed. Would you rather have five trips inside RZ with four FGs and one TD (20 percent conversion) or two trips and two TDS (100 percent conversion)? Clearly, the former.

You aren't making any sense. No team can say "we'll just stack up infinite opportunities in the red zone." Drives are precious commodities and they easily get sabotaged by a sack or a holding call before you even get to the red zone. You gotta maximize your opportunities.

We've been exceptionally fortunate to be +9 in turnovers and +4 in ST/Defensive outright touchdowns. That's not likely to persist vs. top teams.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I have mentioned multiple times Dak was at fault too. in multiple posts about redzone issues.
I did say, it had to be 100% perfect. the fact that it didn't work, means Dak wasn't perfect.... drive that conclusion


I will make sure to write war and peace in every response to include everything I have ever said, so you don't get ruffled.

I can only go by what I quoted. If you said other things in other threads...OK.
You see, I do not make up things....I quote you and address that.


You never mentioned dak. Okay? You didn't. You need to face your agenda and bias.

You never mentioned dak.

Don't expect me to read your mind or bring up something you may or may not have said elsewhere.

 

[Tabascocat]

Dak can’t throw the corner fade, take it out of the playbook!

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Same thing many of the Fans here have been saying. To beat teams like the 49ers you can't have redzone doldrums... Cowboys have been a good team, but the 49ers at this point are the Best Team in the League. We have to up our game.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Red zone is a flawed stat. Not meaningless, just flawed. Would you rather have five trips inside RZ with four FGs and one TD (20 percent conversion) or two trips and two TDS (100 percent conversion)? Clearly, the former.

You have to close out the drive if you wanna win championships. FGs leave four points on the field. Teams that close the drive - are teams that play in January. Argue THAT.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

You aren't making any sense. No team can say "we'll just stack up infinite opportunities in the red zone." Drives are precious commodities and they easily get sabotaged by a sack or a holding call before you even get to the red zone. You gotta maximize your opportunities.

We've been exceptionally fortunate to be +9 in turnovers and +4 in ST/Defensive outright touchdowns. That's not likely to persist vs. top teams.

Of the scenarios I outlined, which would you rather have?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

You have to close out the drive if you wanna win championships. FGs leave four points on the field. Teams that close the drive - are teams that play in January. Argue THAT.

If you’d rather have 14 points than 19, I don’t think any argument will reach you.

 

[Big D]

I was also confused about that play where dak and pollard collided. I'm not sure whose fault it was for the mix up but they need to be better than that. That was a walk in TD.

 

[SuspectCorner]

If you’d rather have 14 points than 19, I don’t think any argument will reach you.

What the heck are you even talking about?

 

[Aven8]

If it gets fixed it’s going to be amazing folks. We are moving the ball at an alarming rate so far

 

[Whyjerry]

That Pollard exchange was as rough as it comes. Just terrible. I honestly think they are too cute in the red zone. Fades seldom work. They need to be much more conventional.

 

[T-RO]

Of the scenarios I outlined, which would you rather have?

You are making a completely arbitrary scenarios. That's not how logic works and not how football works.

Over the course of a season Red Zone success highly correlates to winning football.

Of the top-ten teams last year in Red Zone conversion percentage 8 made the playoffs and another just missing the playoffs.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

You are making a completely arbitrary scenarios. That's not how logic works and not how football works.

This actually is how logic works. Case in point:

Over the course of an NFL game, Team A is 100 percent TDs in the RZ. Team B is 40 percent TDs in the RZ. The rest were made FGs.

Which team was the likely winner?

 

[T-RO]

We are moving the ball at an alarming rate so far

Not exactly. We are 15th in yards-per-play. The +9 in turnovers plus 4 non-offensive TDs have been huge.

 

[T-RO]

This actually is how logic works.

No it isn't. Cherry picking specific real life scenarios is broken logic...and cherry picking imaginary scenarios even worse.

 

[Aven8]

Not exactly. We are 15th in yards-per-play. The +9 in turnovers plus 4 non-offensive TDs have been huge.

No one had been inside the 20’s more than us. That’s why Aubrey looks like a hero. Think about it. We have moved the ball up and down so many times. Have we played a good D? No. (Maybe the Jets?). But we have been efficient and haven’t had any explosive plays at all. It’s going to get better as we go.

 

[McMicah]

Look…teams have figured out to sell out for the run and make Dak beat them in the red zone. To throw in the red zone you need precision AND great timing/anticipation. These are not Daks strengths. I’m not saying he’s a bad QB but those aren’t his strengths.

He likes to wait until people are open to throw. Maybe it’s trust or some other reason I don’t know. In the red zone you have to throw before their open, and when he tries to do that, it often ends up a pick. Don’t believe me? Go watch how many times receivers get nailed right as they catch the ball and go back on the all-22 and watch how long Dak is looking at them or if he double hitches. It happens a lot more than you think. Exact precision and timing are just not his best tools in his tool belt.

The better figure out how to power run in the red zone. These aren’t drives that stalled at the 15 yard line. These stall at the 2 yard line. Unacceptable. Figure it out.