Baldy to Parsons: Take a bow

[gtb1943]

Consistency is what is missing with Parsons, to date playing a full season he has been MIA from December through the playoffs.
and he disappears in games.

 

[darthseinfeld]

It's way more than that. You are talking about making Parsons the highest paid defensive player in the history of the league.

And I'm not sold Parsons is making others better. Who has he made better so far?

Did you watch when it was just him and Armstrong? We had a dominant pass rush with those two as our best pass rushers

You guys get too stingy with paying players. Some of them absolutely deserve it. Parsons is one of them. People just like to be part of the group think

 

[zerofill]

I don't care what people think. Parsons is a beast. I will continue to say that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'd say the attention he draws gives other DL a lot more freedom to penetrate and make plays. I think the pressure he brings makes the whole secondary better. I think the return of three defensive starters had a lot to do with the performance we saw yesterday, but I also think the presence of great players makes everyone's job easier, and Parsons is a great player.

In theory that sounds great. But when I see the Cowboys continually lose to good teams I have my doubts.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did you watch when it was just him and Armstrong? We had a dominant pass rush with those two as our best pass rushers

Tell me how that worked against the better teams with winning records last year.

Whiff!

 

[darthseinfeld]

Tell me how that worked against the better teams with winning records last year.

Whiff!

And your gonna put that all on Parson? For the last years he has turned into a good defensive unit with very little talent around. Im glad you and your ilk arent running team. We would be screaming for Jones boys back

 

[McKDaddy]

There are legit arguments both ways.

 

[visionary]

I would think ANY head coach/defensive coor would love having Parsons AND Overshown

Without a great DL these are flashes in the pan
Great LB play is not consistently possible without a great DL
This is why DL are paid and LB much less
We also cannot pay both anyway

 

[visionary]

I'd say the attention he draws gives other DL a lot more freedom to penetrate and make plays. I think the pressure he brings makes the whole secondary better. I think the return of three defensive starters had a lot to do with the performance we saw yesterday, but I also think the presence of great players makes everyone's job easier, and Parsons is a great player. I think Jeanty is going to be a great player too, and I doubt he'll be there when we pick but if he is I don't see how we pass on him. Philly is demonstrating what a great RB can do.

And where was this Saquon last year on the Giants?

Philly has a QB, great WRs, OL, DL, TE and on and on

We have none of that

Unless you have a QB, you have nothing and our QB has demonstrated repeatedly over 8 years that he is not good enough in playoffs

We need a real QB
I would hate to spend a top 10-15 pick on a RB

 

[visionary]

And Nick Bosa is currently the highest-paid defensive player. Think the 49ers want to trade him for picks even though they are struggling this season?

He's played in 10 games this year and has 21 tackles and seven sacks. Micah has played in 7 and has 25 tackles and 5 sacks. These are game disruptors. You hold on to those.

LOL please stop it
Parsons is a rush LB trying to play DE to get paid
Bosa is the best DE
Apples and oranges
Don’t complain when (not if) Parsons’ play suddenly drops off once he gets paid

 

[DoctorChicken]

Parsons is a gifted pass rusher.

I think the “trade Parsons” talk is complete baloney unless we’re talking, like, a ridiculous haul.

Pass rushers like him are hard to find and impact games.

 

[gimmesix]

LOL please stop it
Parsons is a rush LB trying to play DE to get paid
Bosa is the best DE
Apples and oranges
Don’t complain when (not if) Parsons’ play suddenly drops off once he gets paid.

Injuries happen to all players, so I won't be surprised if injuries take a toll. If he stays healthy, he's going to remain a game-wrecker no matter what he is paid. There is no evidence to support him suddenly becoming lazy. He wants to be one of the best of all time.

Parsons is a pass rusher, like Bosa, and he's shown over the last few years that he's one of the best in the game at it. The numbers don't lie.

In his first three seasons, Micah had 40.5 sacks and 213 tackles. Bosa had 41 sacks and 156 tackles in his first four seasons (he only played two games his second season, which is why I counted his first four.)

Last year, Parsons led the league with 102 total pressures, per PFF. He finished first in pass-rush win rate (37%) despite being double-teamed at a higher rate (34%) than any other edge defender. Bosa ranked first with 21 quarterback knockdowns and finished second to Parsons in total pressures. He was double-teamed at a 26% clip.

Doesn't seem like apples to oranges to me.

 

[plasticman]

It's not a matter of wanting him or not wanting him, the Cowboys simply can't afford to pay three different players the top salaries at their position.

After Parsons gets paid, here comes Tyler Smith.

You can't have a half dozen great players surrounded by 6th round draft picks and undrafted free agents. If a couple of those great players go down then the season is over.

A choice had to be made and Jerry made his choice. Dak and CeeDee got paid.

Generally speaking, there are 5 different positions on defense (DT,DE,LB,S,CB) and 7 different positions on offense (T,G,C,WR,TE,RB,QB). If you have one team paying the top salary for 25% of those 12 positions (3), it is a losing formula.

Make no mistake about it. Unless he is signed, Parsons will hold out next preseason. No agent in his right mind is going to let Parsons walk into training camp without an extension.

 

[visionary]

Injuries happen to all players, so I won't be surprised if injuries take a toll. If he stays healthy, he's going to remain a game-wrecker no matter what he is paid. There is no evidence to support him suddenly becoming lazy. He wants to be one of the best of all time.

Parsons is a pass rusher, like Bosa, and he's shown over the last few years that he's one of the best in the game at it. The numbers don't lie.

In his first three seasons, Micah had 40.5 sacks and 213 tackles. Bosa had 41 sacks and 156 tackles in his first four seasons (he only played two games his second season, which is why I counted his first four.)

Last year, Parsons led the league with 102 total pressures, per PFF. He finished first in pass-rush win rate (37%) despite being double-teamed at a higher rate (34%) than any other edge defender. Bosa ranked first with 21 quarterback knockdowns and finished second to Parsons in total pressures. He was double-teamed at a 26% clip.

Doesn't seem like apples to oranges to me.

Injuries wont “take a toll”
He is a LB playing DE and he should not be but he wants to be paid
He will be his usual ineffective self against top teams because they will run right at him and he will not be able to hold up just like SF and Lions etc have done repeatedly
He always disappears against top teams in December and in playoffs

 

[Playmaker3128]

I flat out do not understand the Micah hate from some cowboys fans. Because he simply has a podcast. It’s not like he’s out there clubbing every night…. Being lazy. He’s one of the hardest working guys in this team year in and year out. And a. Dominant future hof defender.

It isn’t his fault this team is run so poorly. Cowboys fans did the same thing with ware. If parsons left he’d instantly win a title with a championship caliber team

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Good game.......

Good showing, me talkative lad. Two sacks is monstrous! Stay healthy as the season winds down.

 

[gimmesix]

Injuries wont “take a toll”
He is a LB playing DE and he should not be but he wants to be paid
He will be his usual ineffective self against top teams because they will run right at him and he will not be able to hold up just like SF and Lions etc have done repeatedly
He always disappears against top teams in December and in playoffs

You probably were one of those who only thought DeMarcus Ware got sacks when it wasn't crunch time, weren't you?

You seem to have some illogical hatred built up for Parsons, so enjoy that. This season has not been fun enough for me to feel like arguing.

 

[VACowboy]

In theory that sounds great. But when I see the Cowboys continually lose to good teams I have my doubts.

It's not a theory. When teams pay attention to Parsons they're paying less attention to other Cowboys DLinemen. When Parsons is in the QB's face the QB isn't sitting in comfort scanning the field. It's football 101. But Micah's greatness doesn't mean the team as a whole is good enough to beat "good teams." I'm not sure the Commandos qualify as "good" but Mazi and Osa and Butler and the whole defense looked significantly better with some starters back and Micah in his third? game back off a high ankle sprain doing more and more Micah things. We'll see how the defense handles a bad Giants offense and then what happens against a very good QB and set of receivers, but whatever happens, I don't see how anyone can say Micah Parsons doesn't make the Dallas defense better.