Baldy's Breakdowns: More Praise for Parsons

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Runwildboys said:
Gotta say, that looked like holding. I didn't see a 'rip' technique there, and he was certainly not 'away from the play'.
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Brother I have no idea what is holding anymore. I know middle school and high school football (early 80's) have different rules but I was taught that you can hold on to the jersey long as the defender is front of you. Once they go around you and you're still holding on to them and preventing them to separate it's a hold. I've seen Tyron called for that type of hold a few times. Last game on one of the scoring drives, the lineman grabbed Micah by the front collar of the shoulder pads and pulled him to the ground, with the ref in the area, and no call. I don't get it, man. :confused:
 
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An excerpt from Rule 12: Article 3 that Marcus posted in a different thread -

(c) Uses his hands or arms to materially restrict or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether
the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions include but are not limited to:
(1) grabbing or tackling an opponent;
(2) hooking, jerking, twisting, or turning him; or
(3) pulling him to the ground.
Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:
(1) When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be
called:
(a) if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by any defensive player;
(b) if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
(c) if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
(d) if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
(e) if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close-line play;
(f) if a free kick results in a touchback;
(g) if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
(h) if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either
blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
(i) if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position
that would normally be holding.
Exception: Holding will be called if the defender’s feet are taken away from him by the blocker’s action.

Notice the part I highlighted. That would seem to indicate that it's not, in fact, legal to grab the jersey or pads, even in the chest area, as many have stated it is.
 
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Two minutes and one second before halftime against the Bears. Wilson is hog tackled , Horse collared knocked to the ground right in front of the referee. Quarterback runs for a first down. If they called holding on every single play that they could legitimately. The other team would never go forward
 

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TheMightyVanHalen said:
Brother I have no idea what is holding anymore. I know middle school and high school football (early 80's) have different rules but I was taught that you can hold on to the jersey long as the defender is front of you. Once they go around you and you're still holding on to them and preventing them to separate it's a hold. I've seen Tyron called for that type of hold a few times. Last game on one of the scoring drives, the lineman grabbed Micah by the front collar of the shoulder pads and pulled him to the ground, with the ref in the area, and no call. I don't get it, man. :confused:
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I was taught that too. Shrug.
 
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