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DaBoys4Life;2289727 said:
I think you are belittling what Bama did to UGA.
"Belittling"? When is comparing how I have seen, for example, how the AP has voted for over [edit]*30 years to how I see them voting due to the results from the past three days, can defined as "belittling?"
DaBoys4Life;2289727 said:
They might not leap frog OU but they will leap frog Texas and LSU.
It's possible. It's more probable than Alabama leapfrogging Texas, LSU and Oklahoma as you first stated, but is it likely based on the AP's polling history? Not likely. If anything, Alabama will leapfrog Texas and Texas alone. Everyone will get a feel for how the AP will vote when USA Today/ESPN releases it's poll today.
DaBoys4Life;2289727 said:
The AP polls had already done something unprecedented this year when USC leap frog UGA after a win.
You're referring to the changes which occurred from the preseason poll, when pollsters hadn't seen anyone play, to the Week 1 poll. The AP pollsters saw No. 1 Georgia dismantle Georgia Southern of the Southern Conference, No. 2 [edit]*Ohio State pounded Youngstown State of the Missouri Valley Conference and No. 3 USC completely demolish Virginia of the A-C-C.

Southern Conference opponent.

Missouri Valley Conference opponent.

A-C-C (i.e. major conference) opponent.

USC was sitting at #3, only two slots out of first. Just how the heck do you think subjective polling works???
DaBoys4Life;2289727 said:
So if Bama doesn't leap frog OU I could easily see them sitting at #2 with LSU#3 and Texas #4 however I think Bama should be #1 after that win we just have to wait and see.
hmm...

Going by what I think the AP will do, this is how I see it:

No. 1 USC will drop to No. 5.

No. 2 Oklahoma will elevate to No. 1.

No. 3 Georgia humiliation at the hands of No. 8 Alabama will drop them to No. 8.

No. 4 Florida nailbiting loss to SEC opponent Mississippi will cause them to slip to No. 7.

No. 5 LSU will take over the No. 2 after a solid win over SEC opponent Mississippi State.

Idle No. 6 Missouri (which I didn't mention earlier) will stay put at No. 6.

No. 7 Texas will bypass idle No. 6 Missouri after their whitewashing of Arkansas, which is one of the worst major college teams in Division I-A, and take up residence at No. 4.

No. 8 Alabama will leapfrog idle No. 6 Missouri and No. 7 Texas due to their impressive victory over Georgia and settle in at No. 3.

No. 9 Wisconsin will drop out of the top 10 after losing their 19-0 halftime lead to Michigan.

Idle No. 10 Texas Tech will take over No. 9.

No. 12 Penn State's impressive victory over No. 22 Illinois will leapfrog them over idle No. 11 Brigham Young to No. 10.

So, my prediction for the AP Top Ten this week will be:

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. USC
6. Missouri
7. Florida
8. Georgia
9. Texas Tech
10. Penn State

We'll see if the AP tendencies will coincide with what you think will happen or with the pattern of how they have voted in the past.
 

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peplaw06;2289824 said:
I think everyone knew UGA was overrated when USC jumped them in the polls. Impressive win, but I still don't think it was as impressive as USC beating Ohio St. like a drum.

Yea but USC jumped UGA after they beat Virgiana not OSU

jimmy40;2289825 said:
Why would they not?

Because they didn't play any body teams normally don't go up when they don't win

DallasEast;2289845 said:
"Belittling"? When is comparing how I have seen, for example, how the AP has voted for over [edit]*30 years to how I see them voting due to the results from the past three days, can defined as "belittling?"It's possible. It's more probable than Alabama leapfrogging Texas, LSU and Oklahoma as you first stated, but is it likely based on the AP's polling history? Not likely. If anything, Alabama will leapfrog Texas and Texas alone. Everyone will get a feel for how the AP will vote when USA Today/ESPN releases it's poll today.You're referring to the changes which occurred from the preseason poll, when pollsters hadn't seen anyone play, to the Week 1 poll. The AP pollsters saw No. 1 Georgia dismantle Georgia Southern of the Southern Conference, No. 2 [edit]*Ohio State pounded Youngstown State of the Missouri Valley Conference and No. 3 USC completely demolish Virginia of the A-C-C.

Southern Conference opponent.

Missouri Valley Conference opponent.

A-C-C (i.e. major conference) opponent.

USC was sitting at #3, only two slots out of first. Just how the heck do you think subjective polling works??? hmm...

Going by what I think the AP will do, this is how I see it:

No. 1 USC will drop to No. 5.

No. 2 Oklahoma will elevate to No. 1.

No. 3 Georgia humiliation at the hands of No. 8 Alabama will drop them to No. 8.

No. 4 Florida nailbiting loss to SEC opponent Mississippi will cause them to slip to No. 7.

No. 5 LSU will take over the No. 2 after a solid win over SEC opponent Mississippi State.

Idle No. 6 Missouri (which I didn't mention earlier) will stay put at No. 6.

No. 7 Texas will bypass idle No. 6 Missouri after their whitewashing of Arkansas, which is one of the worst major college teams in Division I-A, and take up residence at No. 4.

No. 8 Alabama will leapfrog idle No. 6 Missouri and No. 7 Texas due to their impressive victory over Georgia and settle in at No. 3.

No. 9 Wisconsin will drop out of the top 10 after losing their 19-0 halftime lead to Michigan.

Idle No. 10 Texas Tech will take over No. 9.

No. 12 Penn State's impressive victory over No. 22 Illinois will leapfrog them over idle No. 11 Brigham Young to No. 10.

So, my prediction for the AP Top Ten this week will be:

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. USC
6. Missouri
7. Florida
8. Georgia
9. Texas Tech
10. Penn State

We'll see if the AP tendencies will coincide with what you think will happen or with the pattern of how they have voted in the past.

Florida falls out of the Top 10 IMO i find it a bit sketchy that you have LSU at #2 considering they only won by 10 points against a lesser opponent in MSU.

top 5
1 Bama
2 OSU
3 LSU
4 Texas
5 USC
 

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DaBoys4Life;2289922 said:
Yea but USC jumped UGA after they beat Virgiana not OSU



Because they didn't play any body teams normally don't go up when they don't win



Florida falls out of the Top 10 IMO i find it a bit sketchy that you have LSU at #2 considering they only won by 10 points against a lesser opponent in MSU.

top 5
1 Bama
2 OSU
3 LSU
4 Texas
5 USC
You really don't understand subjective polling.

This will become an even better thread once the AP poll comes out.
 

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DallasEast;2289938 said:
You really don't understand subjective polling.

This will become an even better thread once the AP poll comes out.

You don't think Bama being up 31-0 by the half at UGA isn't going to rocket them to #1 ?
 

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DaBoys4Life;2289951 said:
You don't think Bama being up 31-0 by the half at UGA isn't going to rocket them to #1 ?
:bang2:

The last time I checked, I wasn't a member of the Associated Press. "Do I think it should propel the Crimson Tide to No. 1?" Nope, but in this case, what I think or what you think or what anyone thinks outside the AP doesn't matter.

It's what the AP thinks which only matters. Everything else is just opinion. Of course, I believe that my opinion is based more on what the AP will actually do in the end. We... will... see.

This would be a good time to practice a little patience. Wait... for... the... poll. Good grief.
 

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Wow. Looks like you ALMOST guessed right, DaBoys4Life.

AP Top 25

1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565
3. LSU 4-0 1,466
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453
5. Texas 4-0 1,362
6. Penn State 5-0 1,252
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105
8. Brigham Young 4-0 1,098
9. USC 2-1 1,087
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018
12. Florida 3-1 914
13. Auburn 4-1 860
14. Ohio State 4-1 829
15. Utah 5-0 713
16. Kansas 3-1 650
17. Boise State 3-0 549
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290
21. Oklahoma State 4-0 277
22. Fresno State 3-1 232
23. Oregon 4-1 199
24. Connecticut 5-0 126
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107

Others Receiving Votes
Maryland 46, Michigan State 42, Kentucky 40, Ball State 38, Northwestern 32, Tulsa 32, TCU 30, Illinois 24, North Carolina 21, Florida State 14, OLE MISS 13, Georgia Tech 10, California 5, Nebraska 5, Oregon State 3, Boston College 3, Colorado 2.

Dropped From Rankings
Clemson 20, Illinois 22, East Carolina 23, TCU 24.

This was a major shake up which blows my prediction out of the water.
 

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jimmy40;2289817 said:
Coaches Top 25
Rk Team Points
1 Oklahoma (57) 1520
2 LSU (1) 1399
3 Missouri 1398
4 Alabama (2) 1350
5 Texas (1) 1310
6 Penn State 1146
7 Brigham Young 1054
8 Texas Tech 1047
9 USC 990
10 Georgia 888
10 South Florida 888
12 Ohio State 854
13 Florida 832
14 Auburn 776
15 Utah 684
16 Kansas 555
17 Wisconsin 521
18 Boise State 446
19 Vanderbilt 351
20 Oregon 286
21 Fresno State 280
22 Oklahoma State 229
23 Connecticut 180
24 Virginia Tech 161
25 Wake Forest 148
Waitasec. Which one was released first? The AP's or the USA Today/ESPN poll?

The coaches' appear to be a little less shocked than the media's. I'll have to watch how both gauge the rest of the season.
 

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DallasEast;2290160 said:
Wow. Looks like you ALMOST guessed right, DaBoys4Life.

AP Top 25

1. Oklahoma (43) 4-0 1,599
2. Alabama (21) 5-0 1,565
3. LSU 4-0 1,466
4. Missouri (1) 4-0 1,453
5. Texas 4-0 1,362
6. Penn State 5-0 1,252
7. Texas Tech 4-0 1,105
8. Brigham Young 4-0 1,098
9. USC 2-1 1,087
10. South Florida 5-0 1,035
11. Georgia 4-1 1,018
12. Florida 3-1 914
13. Auburn 4-1 860
14. Ohio State 4-1 829
15. Utah 5-0 713
16. Kansas 3-1 650
17. Boise State 3-0 549
18. Wisconsin 3-1 520
19. Vanderbilt 4-0 459
20. Virginia Tech 4-1 290
21. Oklahoma State 4-0 277
22. Fresno State 3-1 232
23. Oregon 4-1 199
24. Connecticut 5-0 126
25. Wake Forest 3-1 107

Others Receiving Votes
Maryland 46, Michigan State 42, Kentucky 40, Ball State 38, Northwestern 32, Tulsa 32, TCU 30, Illinois 24, North Carolina 21, Florida State 14, OLE MISS 13, Georgia Tech 10, California 5, Nebraska 5, Oregon State 3, Boston College 3, Colorado 2.

Dropped From Rankings
Clemson 20, Illinois 22, East Carolina 23, TCU 24.

This was a major shake up which blows my prediction out of the water.

I don't think TCU should have been dropped from the rankings considering their opponent was ranked #2. Yea I was almost right o well.I thought the polls came out on monday???
 

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DaBoys4Life;2290168 said:
I don't think TCU should have been dropped from the rankings considering their opponent was ranked #2. Yea I was almost right o well.I thought the polls came out on monday???
The USA Today/ESPN coaches poll has come out on Sundays for sometime, but I must haven't been paying close attention to the debut of the AP poll each week because I thought it came out on Monday. Oh well.
 

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DallasEast;2290182 said:
The USA Today/ESPN coaches poll has come out on Sundays for sometime, but I must haven't been paying close attention to the debut of the AP poll each week because I thought it came out on Monday. Oh well.


O i see.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2290168 said:
I don't think TCU should have been dropped from the rankings considering their opponent was ranked #2. Yea I was almost right o well.I thought the polls came out on monday???

Georgia got beat by a top 10 team, and actually made a game of it late.....but still dropped from 2 down to 11.....bogus....

IMO, Georgia should still be ahead of USC. the Beavers were unranked and were blown out by flippin Stanford. USC had no excuse losing that game.

Georgia and USC should be switched.

But of course the Trojans continue to get mad love from the media.....the USC hype machine lives on
 

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Biggems;2292944 said:
Georgia got beat by a top 10 team, and actually made a game of it late.....but still dropped from 2 down to 11.....bogus....

IMO, Georgia should still be ahead of USC. the Beavers were unranked and were blown out by flippin Stanford. USC had no excuse losing that game.

Georgia and USC should be switched.

But of course the Trojans continue to get mad love from the media.....the USC hype machine lives on

yea tell me about it and didn't OSU fall to like 14 after losing to the #1 team in uSC :huh:

these rankings are such a joke its like losing to an unranked opponent doesn't matter. You should be dropped out of the top 25 when that happens. Uconn getting no love @ 5-0 florida ranked higher than OSU :huh: I understand why the call it BS instead of BCS>
 

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Biggems;2289116 said:
Texas is 7 and Alabama is 9 and even lower in some polls. Texas has dominated every opponent. There is no reason for Bama to jump Texas. However, Bama should jump UGA.

Oh and if TT continues winning.......

1 OU
2 Mizzou
3 Texas
4 Bama
5 TT

It would be totally unreal to see the rankings like this going into next week....but it is possible.

1 USC lost to unranked OSU
4 Florida lost to unranked Ole Miss
9 Wisconsin lost to unranked Michigan
3 UGA loses to 8 Bama
5 LSU loses to unranked MSU

Now I wouldnt be too upset if Bama was 3 and Texas was 4 going into next week......but if Texas were to win their next 3 games, they would jump Bama anyway......

I'm a horns fan but Alabama deserves to move up as they did. I hate that the polls are even posted before the start of the season because they over estimate some teams and under estimate others in the case of Alabama they clearly under estimating the talent of that team. As for Texas we will get a chance to move up quite a bit if we can beat OU and Missouri
 

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DaBoys4Life;2294860 said:
yea tell me about it and didn't OSU fall to like 14 after losing to the #1 team in uSC :huh:

these rankings are such a joke its like losing to an unranked opponent doesn't matter. You should be dropped out of the top 25 when that happens. Uconn getting no love @ 5-0 florida ranked higher than OSU :huh: I understand why the call it BS instead of BCS>

tOSU got completely destroyed by USC...they deserved to drop way down. Had they made a game of it at any point beyond the first 12 minutes....then the pollsters would have given them some slack.....but they were completely abused for the final 3 quarters.

Trust me, the only thing that kept USC from not falling way farther after Thursday's loss, was that huge win over tOSU.
 

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Biggems;2292944 said:
Georgia got beat by a top 10 team, and actually made a game of it late.....but still dropped from 2 down to 11.....bogus....

IMO, Georgia should still be ahead of USC. the Beavers were unranked and were blown out by flippin Stanford. USC had no excuse losing that game.

Georgia and USC should be switched.

But of course the Trojans continue to get mad love from the media.....the USC hype machine lives on

But Georgia got beat a home whereas USC got beat on the road. And losing on Thursday helped. Moreover, Georgia really was never in that game, but USC closed the game to at least six. The closest Georgia got was 14.

Not saying it's right, but there's a certain logic to it.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2294860 said:
yea tell me about it and didn't OSU fall to like 14 after losing to the #1 team in uSC :huh:

these rankings are such a joke its like losing to an unranked opponent doesn't matter. You should be dropped out of the top 25 when that happens. Uconn getting no love @ 5-0 florida ranked higher than OSU :huh: I understand why the call it BS instead of BCS>

Ohio St is paying for their two NCG debacles.
 
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