Barber out for Sunday.

[jobberone]

Good Grief. Some of you either don't get it or don't want to get it.

First let me correct some of you about Emmitt and the NY game. Emmitt didn't play with a dislocated shoulder. It was a shoulder separation which is not a dislocation or subluxation. You dislocate your shoulder then the head of the upper arm gets out of the shoulder socket.

He had a shoulder separation which is another joint. The joint between the collar bone and the shoulder is fairly immobile. But that's what gets separated in a shoulder separation. There are four grades. I don't remember what his was but the point is first you're wrong in your statements and you're wrong about the degree of discomfort and ability to function. Under normal circumstances the shoulder stays out when it gets dislocated completely. It ususally takes sedation and at times complete anesthesia to get it back in. You can play with a shoulder separation unless its too severe which his wasn't as evidenced by his recovery time. Still heroic. But you are wrong in your assumptions and in fact about the diagnosis.

The point being you're also wrong about Barber's toe dislocation being a simple thing. It could be simpler and it could be wose depending on what got injured in the dislocation and how much swelling there was as well as dysfunction. It's not a simple thing and you know much less than I do and I can't tell how bad it is other than what little I hear. And I still have to make assumptions.

You guys are nuts to think he wouldn't play if he could. It is INSANE to put him on the field less capable than Choice. Not to mention the delay in recovery that playing on it would absolutely cause. No assumption here.

You don't have to run around and scream when there is a problem. Relax and wait and see if there is a problem first. This is an opportunity for Choice to get some time in grade here. He may excel and then we'll have another weapn to bear against the enemy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

barbarian my ***. what a joke.

:damn:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Good Grief. Some of you either don't get it or don't want to get it.

First let me correct some of you about Emmitt and the NY game. Emmitt didn't play with a dislocated shoulder. It was a shoulder separation which is not a dislocation or subluxation. You dislocate your shoulder then the head of the upper arm gets out of the shoulder socket.

He had a shoulder separation which is another joint. The joint between the collar bone and the shoulder is fairly immobile. But that's what gets separated in a shoulder separation. There are four grades. I don't remember what his was but the point is first you're wrong in your statements and you're wrong about the degree of discomfort and ability to function. Under normal circumstances the shoulder stays out when it gets dislocated completely. It ususally takes sedation and at times complete anesthesia to get it back in. You can play with a shoulder separation unless its too severe which his wasn't as evidenced by his recovery time. Still heroic. But you are wrong in your assumptions and in fact about the diagnosis.

The point being you're also wrong about Barber's toe dislocation being a simple thing. It could be simpler and it could be wose depending on what got injured in the dislocation and how much swelling there was as well as dysfunction. It's not a simple thing and you know much less than I do and I can't tell how bad it is other than what little I hear. And I still have to make assumptions.

You guys are nuts to think he wouldn't play if he could. It is INSANE to put him on the field less capable than Choice. Not to mention the delay in recovery that playing on it would absolutely cause. No assumption here.

You don't have to run around and scream when there is a problem. Relax and wait and see if there is a problem first. This is an opportunity for Choice to get some time in grade here. He may excel and then we'll have another weapn to bear against the enemy.

Finally a voice of reason.

 

[utrunner07]

Someone needs to be fired because of all these injuries and the way they have been dealt with. Wade, the training staff, the team doctor, I don't care, some one has failed this team.

 

[peplaw06]

Football doesnt make you the toughest guy on the block. Ask Too Tall.

MMA participants are full of those who never excelled in football.

In other words, I would have no problem with such a discussion.

:laugh2:


wait.......



wait.......

 

[Decleater101]

Someone needs to be fired because of all these injuries and the way they have been dealt with. Wade, the training staff, the team doctor, I don't care, some one has failed this team.

I agree. Fire Roger Goodell. It's all his fault !

 

[Givincer]

I think those that dont question his toughness are pansies.

If she weighs the same as a duck... she's made of wood. And therefore...A witch!

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

:laugh2:

 

[#12Cowboy]

Damn, couldn't they make him wear a protective boot or something?

Oh well. I still feel good about the game

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

Damn, couldn't they make him wear a protective boot or something?

Oh well. I still feel good about the game

Some guys just don't get it!

 

[Mansta54]

Damn, couldn't they make him wear a protective boot or something?

Oh well. I still feel good about the game

Me too man, I think Romo is gonna light them up and our D is gonna pressure Ben all game long..

 

[#12Cowboy]

Some guys just don't get it!

Don't get what?

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I didn't read through all of these posts but this does make sense. The field in Pittsburgh is awful. Resting him for their next home game makes a lot of sense. And it ensures that he is healthy for the run to the playoffs.

The only problem is, without him, it lessens the Cowboys chances against Pittsburgh. They could be playing for their playoff lives against the Giants. This week and next should be very interesting.

 

[Muhast]

wow.depending on a rookie from Georgia in this weather.not good.Can he pick up the blitzes?wow our chances got slimmer.:bang2: The weather is nasty here,windy,snowing and brutally cold.

its been in the 20's for 3 weeks now in georgia. You act like Georgia doesn't get cold. We don't get snow that much, but its below freezing almost all winter here as well.

 

[fan62]

It is very hard for me to read the criticism of Barber in this thread. First of all, I have not always been a Barber fan, but this season has made me a more of believer in his talent.

You are nuts if you don't think the Cowboys have tried everything to get Barber ready for this game. I am sure they have tried everything from new medical devices, to different shoes, to pain medications.

I am sure that there is just too much pain or else risking further injury, for him to be in the game. Must be bad if pain killers don't do the trick.

Cannot believe you guys that are questioning his toughness!

Maybe your answer is - just release him if he can't play ; go get someone from the street to take his place!! ??? You have to be kidding!

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[Beast_from_East]

Did he ever sit for a Pinkie TOE?

I dislocated (all ligaments, ripped) my thumb and it pointed towards my chest. I was boxing at the time and preparing for a match, and I continued to train.

I understand the pain level and he should be able stabilize the toe and play.

Its not difficult to understand that it is all pain tolerance he is lacking.

I did not realize you have a medical degree.

Exactly which Institution of higher learning did you receive your medical degree from?

We are all waiting..............

 

[Typhus]

Im not mailing it in because MB3 is out and RW is probable with a sprain foot.

Thats just not enough to merit excuse. Sorry, not buying it.

Where was this team prior to RW, still had a prolific offense, and Im not discounting the signifigance minus the two studs, but Im not ready to bail out.

This team can play small ball, and dial it down if thats what has to be done offensively.

This game is going to be trench warfare, and will be decided int the mud, sweat, and pain being handed out at ground zero.

I dont give a flying whatever what every media lip flapper is smacking, they spend entirely too much time loosing money in the stock market than making a right call on game day.

Trench warfare... that should be the underlying theme of the game, battle in the trenches, and the Cowboys defense does have this little thing going on as of late called the 46. Lets not all forget the results from this post bye-wek adjustment.

Pitt has an achiles heel, and thats their OL.

A strong gust of wind blew through Cowboys Nation when D-Wares cat scan came back negative, and that was a sigh or releif,,, could have easily ended his numbers at 15.

With D-Ware and the overload inside, it should be pop shots at Rothils run for my life all day berger.

I see atleast 5 sacks, and double digit hurries......... on a slow field thats not going Pitts way.

 

[adbutcher]

Good Grief. Some of you either don't get it or don't want to get it.

First let me correct some of you about Emmitt and the NY game. Emmitt didn't play with a dislocated shoulder. It was a shoulder separation which is not a dislocation or subluxation. You dislocate your shoulder then the head of the upper arm gets out of the shoulder socket.

He had a shoulder separation which is another joint. The joint between the collar bone and the shoulder is fairly immobile. But that's what gets separated in a shoulder separation. There are four grades. I don't remember what his was but the point is first you're wrong in your statements and you're wrong about the degree of discomfort and ability to function. Under normal circumstances the shoulder stays out when it gets dislocated completely. It ususally takes sedation and at times complete anesthesia to get it back in. You can play with a shoulder separation unless its too severe which his wasn't as evidenced by his recovery time. Still heroic. But you are wrong in your assumptions and in fact about the diagnosis.

The point being you're also wrong about Barber's toe dislocation being a simple thing. It could be simpler and it could be wose depending on what got injured in the dislocation and how much swelling there was as well as dysfunction. It's not a simple thing and you know much less than I do and I can't tell how bad it is other than what little I hear. And I still have to make assumptions.

You guys are nuts to think he wouldn't play if he could. It is INSANE to put him on the field less capable than Choice. Not to mention the delay in recovery that playing on it would absolutely cause. No assumption here.

You don't have to run around and scream when there is a problem. Relax and wait and see if there is a problem first. This is an opportunity for Choice to get some time in grade here. He may excel and then we'll have another weapn to bear against the enemy.

Thank you. Gawd I wish some of our fans were fans of another team. It becomes sickening to experience the negative bs that comes out of some of there mouths.

 

[Mansta54]

Thank you. Gawd I wish some of our fans were fans of another team. It becomes sickening to experience the negative bs that comes out of some of there mouths.

Dude I feel ya, it's only a few and they know who they are but it irks the hell outta me. Those cats aren't real Boyz fans...

 

[lurkercowboy]

what?

Yes, I didnt intend for it to mean that aikman was 2-0 on in philly. Just that Our chances without him even though he had never won there were reduced. Unless you think they werent. We were finally a good team again but had that last hurdle to jump and we had to do it without troy.

and for what it is worth, I meant to say kelvin martin.

Your main points were/are correct. I thought at the time our chances were pretty even or that we had the edge at QB. Beuerlein was playing well and the Eagles QB was Jeff Kemp. I only wish that Buddy Ryan had still been the Eagles coach for that game.

 

[adbutcher]

Dude I feel ya, it's only a few and they know who they are but it irks the hell outta me. Those cats aren't real Boyz fans...

The sad part is that they don't cheer nearly as loud for the good as they bellyache for the bad.

I know everything is not rosy but to concede a defeat before the game is just plain sorry and they should have their fan privileges revoked.