Barr or Donald at 16? Which one and why...

[texbumthelife]

Barr, for two reasons.

One, an elite edge rusher is what this defense needs. They're harder to find and vastly more expensive in free agency.

Two, Donald is not can't miss. I know everyone here is in love with him but believe it or not, the guy also has deficiencies of his own. If we hadn't gotten Melton or the DT class wasn't so deep, I might lean more towards Donald, but thats not the case.

 

[Frosty]

Or why not the other guy?

I am starting to get the feeling that neither will be on the board at 16. Donald goes top 10 and Barr top 12 even expecting Zack Martin to be off the board buy the cowboys pick....Pass rushers will be all the rage in the 2014 draft.

Donald to Minnesota at 8
Barr to Tenn at 11
Martin to NYG at 12
Ryan Shazier to Cowboys at 28

 

[WillieBeamen]

Barr, for two reasons.

One, an elite edge rusher is what this defense needs. They're harder to find and vastly more expensive in free agency.

Two, Donald is not can't miss. I know everyone here is in love with him but believe it or not, the guy also has deficiencies of his own. If we hadn't gotten Melton or the DT class wasn't so deep, I might lean more towards Donald, but thats not the case.

Great post

 

[Questfor6]

Barr, because I like Easley more than Donald especially if he's there at 47.

 

[texbumthelife]

Barr, because I like Easley more than Donald especially if he's there at 47.

I like Tuitt over Donald and Easley because of his versatility at that point.

 

[reddyuta]

generally you would pick a DE in this case but Barr needs a lot of work and may never realize his potential.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am happy with either honestly, but I would go Donald if I had to pick

Safer pick

 

[Sarge]

To me, Donald is far less a risky pick and he would be my ultimate choice but as I have said, I don't think there's any way in hell he falls to 16.

 

[NJ22]

Donald and I love Barr. Barr is more of a risk, there's no denying that.

We should be so lucky to have a choice like this. I guess I have to agree.....maybe. I think the anti-Barr regime is allowing BS to make them forget what we saw on the field. When I see a guy playing at the top level of college football and dominate as a pass rusher when he has played defense for 2 YEARs now, what would he be with Marinelli teaching him. Also he is 6'5 and runs a 4.5. He is 250 not 220 with plenty of length to add another 15-20lbs. Donald is a young Laroi Glover and how could anyone not like him for our D. Our complete lack of any real pass rush ends makes it tough. Let's hope we have to make this choice.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Barr.

Would be a log jam at the 3-tech with Donald. Not a bad thing, but if Barr reached his potential, he is the more valuable player.

 

[ufcrules1]

To me, Donald is far less a risky pick and he would be my ultimate choice but as I have said, I don't think there's any way in hell he falls to 16.

I prefer Donald but agree that there is no way in hell he is there at 16. Cowboys would have to trade up to get him. There is a chance Barr is there at 16 but I doubt that too. He is projected to go to the Titans at 11. I think Donald ends up going to the Bears. I honestly like both players but if I had the choice I would take Donald. I'm completely fine with Barr though. He reminds me of a young Ware.

 

[Rockport]

Barr's a late 1st or 2nd round pick. Donald won't be there.

 

[egn22]

Barr, his skill set is much more difficult to find. Melton makes me feel confident with my choice.

 

[9darter]

Barr. I don't even care much about Donald to be honest. Even Hatch could rack up sacks from the 3 tech in this system. Get a solid player (like Hatch) there and scheme design will take care of the rest. Now, a weak side rusher, that's something different.

 

[KDM256]

Barr, for two reasons.

One, an elite edge rusher is what this defense needs. They're harder to find and vastly more expensive in free agency.

Two, Donald is not can't miss. I know everyone here is in love with him but believe it or not, the guy also has deficiencies of his own. If we hadn't gotten Melton or the DT class wasn't so deep, I might lean more towards Donald, but thats not the case.

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I am willing to gamble on Barr and hopefully him & Melton can become nice additions. I still think we could be in play with Easley as well inthe 2nd.

 

[ufcrules1]

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I am willing to gamble on Barr and hopefully him & Melton can become nice additions. I still think we could be in play with Easley as well inthe 2nd.

lol.. we will have no choice but to gamble on Barr because no way Donald falls to us. Honestly, I don't think either of these guys will fall to us.. but Barr would be more likely to fall.

 

[texbumthelife]

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I am willing to gamble on Barr and hopefully him & Melton can become nice additions. I still think we could be in play with Easley as well inthe 2nd.

I think if Barr is the choice, Easely will easily be the target in the second round, even if it means a small trade up.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Donald. By all reports, he is and will be the better player. Been compared to Booger McFarland. If McFarland and Sapp were able to play together, makes me think Donald and Melton could start together at the 1 & 3.

 

[AsthmaField]

Donald. That I chose him will surprise nobody.

I like Barr and I think Marinelli could get him working well on the weakside, but Donald is exactly what Marinelli wants out of his 3-tech.

He is a more unique player at his position than Barr is.

Donald has the fastest 40 time ever by a DT at the combine. Barr has guys who ran better than him in this draft alone.

Donald was the strongest DT at the combine (35 reps) and Barr was 21 reps behind the strongest DE.

Donald was probably the most explosive DT we've ever seen at the combine and Barr wasn't even the most athletic DE in this year's draft.

Look at it this way: Donald's first step and his speed (both very important to Marinelli) are probably going to be the best in the NFL his first day of training camp. The guards he will be facing will not ever have seen as good a first step from a DT at any level.

Barr's first step and speed will not be the best. There will be a number of guys in the league that have better than him, and the tackles he's facing will have regularly played against DE/OLB's who are as quick as Barr or quicker.

Now normally great combine numbers don't impress me that much, because guys like Mike Mamula or Alexander Wright usually haven't played up to their measurables. It normally just makes you wonder why they didn't dominate in college. However, Donald has the crazy production that you would expect from a guy who is so good physically. It isn't a case of a guy who is just a really good athlete. Donald is first and foremost a terrific football player. Seeing the amazing combine numbers just explain the numbers we saw from his college days.

A great combine for Mamula just raised questions. The great combine from Donald just explained a lot. A really big difference there.

So, while I do like Barr and think that he would be good for Dallas... there is no comparison to how much I would prefer Donald.

 

[btcutter]

Barr, for two reasons.

One, an elite edge rusher is what this defense needs. They're harder to find and vastly more expensive in free agency.

Two, Donald is not can't miss. I know everyone here is in love with him but believe it or not, the guy also has deficiencies of his own. If we hadn't gotten Melton or the DT class wasn't so deep, I might lean more towards Donald, but thats not the case.

Barr is exactly what you want in a 1st rounder. Productive in college with great upside. Mind you he has only played on D for past 18 months so he is a baby on D and he is already good. Imaging a few years of Marinelli coaching!

Donald is already very good. I am just afraid that he has maximized his potential. He wouldn't be a bad pick either. Just that I prefer to have more upside. As you have mentioned pass rusher are VERY expensive in FA.