Barry Switzer commercials

[SaltwaterServr]

Please.. won a superbowl..

and NO less BEAT the Pittsburgh Steelers who beat us twice in the 70's... 27-17 a team that is 6-1 in Superbowls..

Trivia ready?

who is the only head coach to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a Superbowl Game?

anwser: Barry Switzer

that alone give him a pass for anything FOREVER.

well, that's a hard thing to refute right there. Think I'm going to name my first born daughter Barry in his honor...

 

[Idgit]

Personable fellow.

Abysmal pro coach.

Wait. So there are criteria other than 'has he won a Superbowl' that we can use to evaluate people in the NFL? This is a novel concept.

 

[Bleu Star]

Switzer is actually really funny in these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFyLEtSu0JA

Those where great. Thanks.

 

[Switz]

well, that's a hard thing to refute right there. Think I'm going to name my first born daughter Barry in his honor...

you should..:laugh2:

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Please.. won a superbowl..

and NO less BEAT the Pittsburgh Steelers who beat us twice in the 70's... 27-17 a team that is 6-1 in Superbowls..

Trivia ready?

who is the only head coach to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a Superbowl Game?

anwser: Barry Switzer

that alone give him a pass for anything FOREVER.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2829096&postcount=21

Moose's word has more credibility with me than your overly simplistic logic.

Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann, and Franco Harris are a far cry from Neil O'Donnell, Yancey Thigpen, and Bam Morris. If Switzer had beaten the former in their primes, you might have an argument. He did not, however, so you do not.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Wait. So there are criteria other than 'has he won a Superbowl' that we can use to evaluate people in the NFL? This is a novel concept.

Yep.

Unless someone honestly believes Trent Dilfer is a better pro-quarterback than Dan Marino or even Tony Romo.:

 

[Jon88]

Please.. won a superbowl..

and NO less BEAT the Pittsburgh Steelers who beat us twice in the 70's... 27-17 a team that is 6-1 in Superbowls..

Trivia ready?

who is the only head coach to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a Superbowl Game?

anwser: Barry Switzer

that alone give him a pass for anything FOREVER.

If Neil O'Donnell doesn't throw those passes right to Larry Brown I'm not sure we win that game. The Steelers were coming back and Bam Morris was on a roll.

 

[Switz]

If Neil O'Donnell doesn't throw those passes right to Larry Brown I'm not sure we win that game. The Steelers were coming back and Bam Morris was on a roll.

steelers NEVER once had the lead in that game..

The Dallas D stood on there heads in the 2nd half.

the media and superbowl highlight vids make you forget... I dont have have the game on VHS and TIVO.

The real story was the cowboys d out played Pittsburghs

 

[Switz]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2829096&postcount=21

Moose's word has more credibility with me than your overly simplistic logic.

Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann, and Franco Harris are a far cry from Neil O'Donnell, Yancey Thigpen, and Bam Morris. If Switzer had beaten the former in their primes, you might have an argument. He did not, however, so you do not.

so Barry Swizter has to go back in time.. and beat the 70's steelers?

Oh and since then the steelers beat a Seahawk team no one will remember and a 9-7 AZ team that slumped into the playoff in the weakest division in 30 years... yet they will lay claim to 6 Superbowls with no BUT IF they only beat the 92 cowboys or 89 49ers.

your arguement makes no sense.

Swizter was 3-0 vs Pittsburgh and a big fat superbowl win. the end

 

[Jon88]

so Barry Swizter has to go back in time.. and beat the 70's steelers?

Oh and since then the steelers beat a Seahawk team no one will remember and a 9-7 AZ team that slumped into the playoff in the weakest division in 30 years... yet they will lay claim to 6 Superbowls with no BUT IF they only beat the 92 cowboys or 89 49ers.

your arguement makes no sense.

Swizter was 3-0 vs Pittsburgh and a big fat superbowl win. the end

They definitely weren't ready to play the 49ers in 1994 until they spotted them 21 pts. And I do have Superbowl XXX on VHS and the Steelers were coming back before those two interceptions.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

so Barry Swizter has to go back in time.. and beat the 70's steelers?

No.

He merely had to demonstrate competent personnel evaluation faculties and, thereby, avoid the complete and utter obliteraion of the organization that Jimmy had so carefully built.

Unfortunately, Switzer demonstrated nothing of the sort. Instead, he managed to alienate Aikman, and transform the team into one of his Oklahoma dorm rooms.

your arguement makes no sense.

Swizter was 3-0 vs Pittsburgh and a big fat superbowl win. the end

The Pittsburgh Steelers are not a static entity; they undergo the same peaks and troughs and overhauls that every other team undergoes.

Ergo, your argument makes no sense.

 

[Switz]

No.

He merely had to demonstrate competent personnel evaluation faculties and, thereby, avoid the complete and utter obliteraion of the organization that Jimmy had so carefully built.

Unfortunately, Switzer demonstrated nothing of the sort. Instead, he managed to alienate Aikman, and transform the team into one of his Oklahoma dorm rooms.

Aikman did not like Switzer from college... blame Jerry for the hire. then

To blame Swizter for the down fall of the cowboys is not correct again point that finger at Jerry... Jerry picked the players and hired Barry to do nothing more than be a figure head.

again, if Dallas loses SB XXX I wonder who would got the blame? You point the finger at the wrong person.. Jerry is the one to blame 12 year later and the same results.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are not a static entity; they undergo the same peaks and troughs and overhauls that every other team undergoes.

Ergo, your argument makes no sense.

so when a refernece comes up in terms of all time records like the cowboys and steelers are 15-15 series tied all time.. or that Phil Jackson is 10-2 in NBA finals those time lines make no difference sicne they are not connect. yet in many repects they are the same body of work only over time?

again I find fault in your choice of selective arguement

 

[Switz]

They definitely weren't ready to play the 49ers in 1994 until they spotted them 21 pts. And I do have Superbowl XXX on VHS and the Steelers were coming back before those two interceptions.

the first interception came early in the 2nd half.. Dallas went up 20-7 at that point.

at this point they had zero ralley going...

second came late.. go back and watch the VHS tape.

 

[5mics]

Switzer is actually really funny in these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFyLEtSu0JA

Thanks! These are freakin' great!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

why is this in the fan zone?

 

[Jon88]

the first interception came early in the 2nd half.. Dallas went up 20-7 at that point.

at this point they had zero ralley going...

second came late.. go back and watch the VHS tape.

I'm telling you they had momentun until that last interception. Bam Morris was running over the defense.

We got a few calls going our way that game, as in the "pick" that resulted in a touchdown for Novacheck and the no taunting penalty after Deion caught the long bomb for Irvin.

We also got calls before that in the NFC Championship game against Green Bay. At the first of the game they got an interception for a touchdown called back, and refs turned a blind eye to Erik Williams wrecking Jurkovic's knee.

 

[Switz]

I'm telling you they had momentun until that last interception. Bam Morris was running over the defense.

We got a few calls going our way that game, as in the "pick" that resulted in a touchdown for Novacheck and the no taunting penalty after Deion caught the long bomb for Irvin.

We also got calls before that in the NFC Championship game against Green Bay. At the first of the game they got an interception for a touchdown called back, and refs turned a blind eye to Erik Williams wrecking Jurkovic's knee.

Oh they did have momentum. also the onside kicked helped.

That said go back and watch the 2 and 1, 3 and 1 and 4th and 1 thr dallas d stopped.

The so called pick is almost never called. I can not remember the last time I have seen that called since that game..

as for Deion.. dude they are not going to call everything and he was not in the face of the DB.. sorry you are nit picking.

as for calls... the steelers TD drive before the first hald it was a 3 and 15 or so i can remember exactly. but the refs missed spotted that ball by a full yard and that would have killed the drive. instead they gave the steelers the first and they scored before the half... so back and watch the tape like I said.

 

[Jon88]

Oh they did have momentum. also the onside kicked helped.

That said go back and watch the 2 and 1, 3 and 1 and 4th and 1 thr dallas d stopped.

The so called pick is almost never called. I can not remember the last time I have seen that called since that game..

as for Deion.. dude they are not going to call everything and he was not in the face of the DB.. sorry you are nit picking.
as for calls... the steelers TD drive before the first hald it was a 3 and 15 or so i can remember exactly. but the refs missed spotted that ball by a full yard and that would have killed the drive. instead they gave the steelers the first and they scored before the half... so back and watch the tape like I said.

He celebrated and put his hands right in the face of the DB. That was taunting that they didn't call.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Aikman did not like Switzer from college... blame Jerry for the hire. then

To blame Swizter for the down fall of the cowboys is not correct again point that finger at Jerry... Jerry picked the players and hired Barry to do nothing more than be a figure head.

again, if Dallas loses SB XXX I wonder who would got the blame? You point the finger at the wrong person.. Jerry is the one to blame 12 year later and the same results.

Oh, I blame Jerry. Trust me. In my opinion, the onus of blame falls squarely on Jerry's shoulders. But Switzer isn't completely absolved simply because Jerry had the final word in personnel matters.

What, pray tell, was Switzer's job?

It clearly wasn't talent evaluation.

It wasn't mustering the intestinal fortitude to confront Jerry in any one of a myriad abysmal personnel failures.

It obviously wasn't outcoaching his opposition.

It apparently wasn't even restraining the baser, more anti-social tendencies within his team.

So what exactly did he do other than bumble around the sideline eating hotdogs? Switzer doesn't receive a pass simply because he was expected to be nothing more than incompetent.

Switzer also bears some fault for perpetuating and feeding the ridiculous and fallacious accusations that Troy was racist.

so when a refernece comes up in terms of all time records like the cowboys and steelers are 15-15 series tied all time.. or that Phil Jackson is 10-2 in NBA finals those time lines make no difference sicne they are not connect. yet in many repects they are the same body of work only over time?

again I find fault in your choice of selective arguement

Then I suggest you look up the meaning of "selective argumentation"; nothing I've asserted here even remotely classifies as selective argumentation.

You, on the other hand, are guilty of crass oversimplification. In essence, you're arguing that a victory over the Shaun Hill-led 49ers is identical to a victory over the Montana-led Niners. They aren't remotely similar -- much like a victory over the O'Donnell-led Steelers is not in any way comparable to a victory over the Bradshaw-led Steelers.

 

[Jon88]

Oh, I blame Jerry. Trust me. In my opinion, the onus of blame falls squarely on Jerry's shoulders. But Switzer isn't completely absolved simply because Jerry had the final word in personnel matters.

What, pray tell, was Switzer's job?

It clearly wasn't talent evaluation.

It wasn't mustering the intestinal fortitude to confront Jerry in any one of a myriad abysmal personnel failures.

It obviously wasn't outcoaching his opposition.

It apparently wasn't even restraining the baser, more anti-social tendencies within his team.

So what exactly did he do other than bumble around the sideline eating hotdogs? Switzer doesn't receive a pass simply because he was expected to be nothing more than incompetent.

Switzer also bears some fault for perpetuating and feeding the ridiculous and fallacious accusations that Troy was racist.



Then I suggest you look up the meaning of "selective argumentation"; nothing I've asserted here even remotely classifies as selective argumentation.

You, on the other hand, are guilty of crass oversimplification. In essence, you're arguing that a victory over the Shaun Hill-led 49ers is identical to a victory over the Montana-led Niners. They aren't remotely similar -- much like a victory over the O'Donnell-led Steelers is not in any way comparable to a victory over the Bradshaw-led Steelers.

Totally agree.