Based on who the Cowboys have met-these are the top 4 positions

[LatinMind]

I'd have DT higher on the list than WR and CB, but I think it might be a quality thing. There aren't any clearly dominant 3-techs available when we pick that I can tell (Kancey is intriguing but his size makes him questionable) and we're not going to take any one- to two-down NTs early (even though I'd be for it). Best bet qualitywise in the first two rounds are the four positions mentioned. Tight end also could fit in there qualitywise, but I'm not sure we want to use an early pick there because of the youngsters.

Agree but SJ has already said after signing Hankins the DT core would be good. I don't agree but they're young other than Hankins. And if they need it there's going to be alot of vet dts avail, and Dallas still has cap and get another 10mil with elliot.

 

[gimmesix]

Agree but SJ has already said after signing Hankins the DT core would be good. I don't agree but they're young other than Hankins. And if they need it there's going to be alot of vet dts avail, and Dallas still has cap and get another 10mil with elliot.

I just think the Joneses are delusional about the DT spots. Odig is a good player, but he's not a great player, which great 4-3 defenses need at 3-tech. Quinn has worked pretty good magic without having that guy, but the defense elevates to another level if you find him.

However, finding him where we are drafting could be difficult this year. Kancey might be the best option early and his size is a concern. But I wouldn't mind us taking a shot there because a disruptor inside might make this D elite.

 

[Mr_437]

Edge, LG, TE or WR...I think #26 will be one of these positions. I think the value and upside of the cluster of Edge players (McDonald, Hall, and FAU) available at the end of the 1st round is tempting for Dallas.

 

[DanA]

You save about 4 million in cap space cutting Lewis and coming off an injury maybe they’re ready to move on. That’s 300+ snaps not even counting the bottom feeders in the depth chart this player would eat into.

DE you likely have to get a little more creative and potentially cut / trade Dorance.

I’m not certain RoJo or Davis can’t fill Zekes role. Id 100% still draft aRB for competition just in no way round 1. Zeke was outside the top 25 in basically every advanced efficiency stat out there for RBs - 2022 Zeke is going to be easy to replace.

I don’t think our views are too far apart. It’s more where we are coming from.

I have said in other threads I don’t see RB as a dire need. I see it as an opportunity we can consider in the right conditions. We have a need to fill and if that comes at the expense of Rojo or David that’s no much opportunity cost. The kicker is the player has to be worth the investment. Your assessment on Bijan is no, my assessment is maybe if there’s nothing better.

With respect to CB, my assessment is the opportunity cost is high. The draft pick better be a blinking light on the board because I don’t want to cut Lewis, I don’t want to be taking opportunities from Bland and Mukuamu. You seem more comfortable with that.

The same with DE. I don’t want to cut Armstrong, there’s a bunch of Special Teams stuff he does in addition to his play on the edge that I view as really valuable. I don’t see a good option assuming Fowlers contract is guaranteed. It’s not
off the cards, but the blinking light needs to require sun glasses for me to want to take them.

I’ve watched very little of this years draft prospects so it might be that the draft falls where there is a Joey Porter Jnr or Nolan Smith that stands out like Ceedee did when he was drafted but that’s what it takes for me to want to draft those positions for all the reasons I’ve mentioned above.

 

[baltcowboy]

I’m very confident a great option will be available at 26…my concern is the Cowboys will make the wrong decision.

You must think it will be Robinson. I will say this, I only see like 3 teams that would draft him in the top 25. The problem is the teams that have multiple picks Detroit, Houston, Philadelphia and Seattle probably won’t pick him.

 

[baltcowboy]

Could be if we get wiped out.

I really like Forbes. My favorite cornerback. Perfect understudy for Gilmore. You have turned me. I also think Robinson could fall to 26. I only see three teams that would draft him before 26. New England, Tampa, and Chargers. To be honest those teams have other needs that make running back tough to take.

 

[AsthmaField]

I just think the Joneses are delusional about the DT spots. Odig is a good player, but he's not a great player, which great 4-3 defenses need at 3-tech. Quinn has worked pretty good magic without having that guy, but the defense elevates to another level if you find him.

However, finding him where we are drafting could be difficult this year. Kancey might be the best option early and his size is a concern. But I wouldn't mind us taking a shot there because a disruptor inside might make this D elite.

Don’t forget about Chauncey Golston at 3-tech. By the end of last year he was playing well. Quinn noticed and started giving him more snaps at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

He is not real quick for a DE but he is very quick for a 3T DT. He has always been stout against the run (he played some DT at Iowa as well) and he still was as a 3T in Dallas. He weighs 290 (at the end of last year) and has great movement. He is probably as quick as Kancey and has way more length, which he uses well. And we all know how much Quinn loves length. In the last game against Washington Golston was giving some of their OL problems. He had some good penetration in the playoffs as well.

If there was a 3-Tech in this draft that was 6-5, 290 lbs. and was stout against the run, people would want to draft him.

I’m not saying Golston is the next Aaron Donald, but I think fans are really sleeping on him. I think Quinn likes him a lot and he was real patient with Golston’s switch to DT. By the end of last year it looked like Quinn’s patience was starting to pay off… and his usage went way up.

After another training camp as a 3T, I expect continued improvement out of Golston. I think he’ll rotate with Odighizuwa and in passing situations, they’ll have both Odighizuwa and Golston at DT.

People are completely forgetting about him.

 

[AsthmaField]

Forbes had a formal interview at the combine and then is a 30 visitor which tells us, he is a legitimate target. Yes, his weight is concerning, but he tested out elite in every other category. He has elite ball skills, which you cannot teach.

You know that I’ve been banging the drum for Forbes during the whole pre draft process. I’d be perfectly fine taking him at 26… particularly since Gilmore was added.

Let him learn from Gilmore and get some play time this season while he adds on some weight.

His natural skills for playing CB are pretty rare. He is just a born cover guy. It is never easy to catch a ball on Forbes because he is a menace to whichever receiver he’s covering. He aggressive, long, quick and fast, and his instincts are perfect for corner.

And, of course, those ball skills… like you said, that can’t be taught. You either have it or you don’t, and few do. He is a rare ball hawk.

Even at his weight, he never shied away from contact and will stick his head in there without hesitation. He can tackle.

Ex GM Rick Speilman said that he would draft Forbes in round one. When the other guy mentioned his weight, Speilman said, “it doesn’t matter. Point to a guy and say cover him… and that guy doesn’t catch a pass.”

He makes it very hard on WR’s and the guy is just a ball magnet. Someone will take him in round 1, IMO…I’d be thrilled to have Forbes.

 

[rambo2]

It looks like they will be taking a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round.

 

[gimmesix]

Don’t forget about Chauncey Golston at 3-tech. By the end of last year he was playing well. Quinn noticed and started giving him more snaps at the end of the season and in the playoffs.

He is not real quick for a DE but he is very quick for a 3T DT. He has always been stout against the run (he played some DT at Iowa as well) and he still was as a 3T in Dallas. He weighs 290 (at the end of last year) and has great movement. He is probably as quick as Kancey and has way more length, which he uses well. And we all know how much Quinn loves length. In the last game against Washington Golston was giving some of their OL problems. He had some good penetration in the playoffs as well.

If there was a 3-Tech in this draft that was 6-5, 290 lbs. and was stout against the run, people would want to draft him.

I’m not saying Golston is the next Aaron Donald, but I think fans are really sleeping on him. I think Quinn likes him a lot and he was real patient with Golston’s switch to DT. By the end of last year it looked like Quinn’s patience was starting to pay off… and his usage went way up.

After another training camp as a 3T, I expect continued improvement out of Golston. I think he’ll rotate with Odighizuwa and in passing situations, they’ll have both Odighizuwa and Golston at DT.

People are completely forgetting about him.

I thought Golston played well at 5T and 3T. I would prefer that we hedge our bets, though, against him becoming a top-notch 3T, especially since his production doesn't indicate that he will. If he does, that would be fantastic. If we draft someone who does, that would be fantastic. One way or the other we have got to improve the interior penetration, both against the run and pass. Whoever can do that, I'm all for.

We've ***** this position over the years, either trying to find that guy in the third round (or reaching for one in the second) or bringing in over-the-hill guys or nobodies. The front office just hasn't given the coaches a lot to work with there. That's why they have to try to turn someone like Golston into a quality 3-tech. Maybe it will work, but all these experimental and low-cost moves have mostly failed.

 

[cristglo]

Smoke and Mirrors Im sure there are some there in our visits.
We are in a place that we Cowboy fans haven't been in a while. We can take whatever position BPA.
The Jones said they would like to have a starter for 1st rd.
MM said that he wanted to run more.
MM said this is about surrounding Dak with weapons and help MM mentions the OL.
Jones wants to put the best 5 OL out there.
Expiring contracts 2024
Tony Pollard RB
Gilmore CB
Armstrong DE
Smith OL
lewis CB
Kearse S
Hooker S
Fowler DE
Have to resign
CeeDeee WR
Diggs CB
Steele hasn't signed yet
Hankins DT
Gallimore DL
Biadazz OC

Clearly, we will be losing some key players and have some key players resign.

I don't worry as much about the Defense but they Cleary Still need a DT.
We clearly need an LG. I'm pretty sure that Tyron will retire after this year. Hopefully, we can get him a ring and send him out properly.
Im just not convinced that we go WR in the first.
You have CeeDee #1 Cooks#2 Gallup #3 Tolbert #4
The OL is what puzzles me. We all know Tyron won't make it a full season he will miss at least 4 games. If Tyron cant play LG Im using him as a swing tackle but If he beats out Steele so be it.
So that makes me believe that OL is going to be what we will be looking at regardless of how we feel about Dak he is going to need a clean pocket and Pollard is going to need a clean running lane. If Dak has a clean pocket then he can help us to be a top 10 Offense.
The Other position we need is DT we resigned Hankins to a one-yr deal and he needs a beast to rotate in with.
None of these are what I call sexy picks but picks to solidify the Lines.

 

[DanA]

I'd have DT higher on the list than WR and CB, but I think it might be a quality thing. There aren't any clearly dominant 3-techs available when we pick that I can tell (Kancey is intriguing but his size makes him questionable) and we're not going to take any one- to two-down NTs early (even though I'd be for it). Best bet qualitywise in the first two rounds are the four positions mentioned. Tight end also could fit in there qualitywise, but I'm not sure we want to use an early pick there because of the youngsters.

100% agree DT is a higher need. It’s probably the highest need both short and long term. It’s only when you go looking at options available that we

 

[cnuball21]

I don’t think our views are too far apart. It’s more where we are coming from.

I have said in other threads I don’t see RB as a dire need. I see it as an opportunity we can consider in the right conditions. We have a need to fill and if that comes at the expense of Rojo or David that’s no much opportunity cost. The kicker is the player has to be worth the investment. Your assessment on Bijan is no, my assessment is maybe if there’s nothing better.

With respect to CB, my assessment is the opportunity cost is high. The draft pick better be a blinking light on the board because I don’t want to cut Lewis, I don’t want to be taking opportunities from Bland and Mukuamu. You seem more comfortable with that.

The same with DE. I don’t want to cut Armstrong, there’s a bunch of Special Teams stuff he does in addition to his play on the edge that I view as really valuable. I don’t see a good option assuming Fowlers contract is guaranteed. It’s not
off the cards, but the blinking light needs to require sun glasses for me to want to take them.

I’ve watched very little of this years draft prospects so it might be that the draft falls where there is a Joey Porter Jnr or Nolan Smith that stands out like Ceedee did when he was drafted but that’s what it takes for me to want to draft those positions for all the reasons I’ve mentioned above.

I agree, all good and fair dialogue. My thing is this:

- Even though I wouldn’t take him Bijan isn’t falling and there isn’t another 1st round RB in this class. Gibbs is another complimentary back - fun but no.
- No 1st round again this class.
- Mayer probably gets a 1st round grade in a weak class, but as a mediocre athlete hard for me to buy in at a low value position. Think you can get simile play a round or 2 later.

My thing is I see a blinking red light fall at CB or DE since the class is so strong. Ex - CBs 4-6 have #1 potential IMO. WR is mostly high end 2s this year but in todays NFL that also warrants the pick.

 

[cnuball21]

You know that I’ve been banging the drum for Forbes during the whole pre draft process. I’d be perfectly fine taking him at 26… particularly since Gilmore was added.

Let him learn from Gilmore and get some play time this season while he adds on some weight.

His natural skills for playing CB are pretty rare. He is just a born cover guy. It is never easy to catch a ball on Forbes because he is a menace to whichever receiver he’s covering. He aggressive, long, quick and fast, and his instincts are perfect for corner.

And, of course, those ball skills… like you said, that can’t be taught. You either have it or you don’t, and few do. He is a rare ball hawk.

Even at his weight, he never shied away from contact and will stick his head in there without hesitation. He can tackle.

Ex GM Rick Speilman said that he would draft Forbes in round one. When the other guy mentioned his weight, Speilman said, “it doesn’t matter. Point to a guy and say cover him… and that guy doesn’t catch a pass.”

He makes it very hard on WR’s and the guy is just a ball magnet. Someone will take him in round 1, IMO…I’d be thrilled to have Forbes.

If Forbes is dedicated to his craft the weight gain shouldn’t be an issue.

If he checks out between the ears and off the field he’s one of my favorite targets this year.

I honestly believe he has #1 potential.

 

[morasp]

Our defense needs to get better but our offense needs to get a lot better. Draft a Playmaker and move on to round 2

3 Robinson RB
6 Skoronski OL
8 Gonzales CB
9 Sanders LB/Edge
10 Hyatt Deep threat
11 Murphy Edge
12 Branch CB/S
13 Musgrave TE
14 Kincaid TE
15 Downs WR
16 Flowers WR
17 Jones OT
18 Mayer TE
19 Witherspoon CB
21 Porter CB
23 Schmitz IOL
24 McDonald Edge
25 Jaxson Smith WR

Trade back
Gibbs RB/Slot WR/kick returner

 

[Cowboyny]

You know that I’ve been banging the drum for Forbes during the whole pre draft process. I’d be perfectly fine taking him at 26… particularly since Gilmore was added.

Let him learn from Gilmore and get some play time this season while he adds on some weight.

His natural skills for playing CB are pretty rare. He is just a born cover guy. It is never easy to catch a ball on Forbes because he is a menace to whichever receiver he’s covering. He aggressive, long, quick and fast, and his instincts are perfect for corner.

And, of course, those ball skills… like you said, that can’t be taught. You either have it or you don’t, and few do. He is a rare ball hawk.

Even at his weight, he never shied away from contact and will stick his head in there without hesitation. He can tackle.

Ex GM Rick Speilman said that he would draft Forbes in round one. When the other guy mentioned his weight, Speilman said, “it doesn’t matter. Point to a guy and say cover him… and that guy doesn’t catch a pass.”

He makes it very hard on WR’s and the guy is just a ball magnet. Someone will take him in round 1, IMO…I’d be thrilled to have Forbes.

I'm on the same page, really like the player and have him as the #4 CB in the class. Think he is the favorite with McDonald at 26. Heard he is definitely going in the first rd and he weighed 170 at his pro day.

 

[Cowboyny]

I really like Forbes. My favorite cornerback. Perfect understudy for Gilmore. You have turned me. I also think Robinson could fall to 26. I only see three teams that would draft him before 26. New England, Tampa, and Chargers. To be honest those teams have other needs that make running back tough to take.

Robinson most likely goes higher due to the lack of elite talent in the 1st rd, but with the depth at the position, teams may draft later. Forbes in one the the favorites at 26, him or McDonald. They both are gone then we are talking about G or WR.

 

[baltcowboy]

Robinson most likely goes higher due to the lack of elite talent in the 1st rd, but with the depth at the position, teams may draft later. Forbes in one the the favorites at 26, him or McDonald. They both are gone then we are talking about G or WR.

I started looking at Johnston. The Michigan game he really played well against NFL caliber prospects. I can see him being a Watson type. The way Watson lit us up I am probably overrating him. As of right now I like about 5 guys that I can see us drafting at 26. I am trying to get myself to like Addison and Flowers. I don’t like guard at 26. Torrance and Avila are not special to me. They don’t have All-Pro potential. To pick them in the first I think the Cowboys would have to believe they are Tyler.

 

[cnuball21]

Robinson most likely goes higher due to the lack of elite talent in the 1st rd, but with the depth at the position, teams may draft later. Forbes in one the the favorites at 26, him or McDonald. They both are gone then we are talking about G or WR.

Love the idea of Forbes and McDonald being 2 of our top targets. Can see them being high caliber player for cheap for the next 5 years.

 

[cnuball21]

I started looking at Johnston. The Michigan game he really played well against NFL caliber prospects. I can see him being a Watson type. The way Watson lit us up I am probably overrating him. As of right now I like about 5 guys that I can see us drafting at 26. I am trying to get myself to like Addison and Flowers. I don’t like guard at 26. Torrance and Avila are not special to me. They don’t have All-Pro potential. To pick them in the first I think the Cowboys would have to believe they are Tyler.

Yea, I mean for someone that big and fast just get him the ball and let him run. He was a YAC monster and he has a little Lamb to his game in being stupid quick for how but he is.

Hopefully with hard coaching we could get him attacking the ball a little more.