Based on who the Cowboys have met-these are the top 4 positions

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Yeah you understand. I think the pass rusher will be bpa in the first and the guard in the third. Wide receiver, running back, cornerback, and tight end have some depth. Cornerback they might double dip and cut two players of the roster.
Based on just the contact, appears they want a 1st or 2nd rd receiver, OL in play each rd (1-3), CB the same.
 

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Based on just the contact, appears they want a 1st or 2nd rd receiver, OL in play each rd (1-3), CB the same.
You know the 30 visits can be smoke screens. The reports I hear from insiders they don’t think the receivers at the top are great. We will find out in 3 weeks!!! :thumbup:
 

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You know the 30 visits can be smoke screens. The reports I hear from insiders they don’t think the receivers at the top are great. We will find out in 3 weeks!!! :thumbup:
Is that their own opinions?
 

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Excellent work by XWalker putting together a full list of who the team has met with throughout the offseason. The top 4 positions on that list OL, WR, CB, RB which makes a ton of sense:

-If the Cowboys do not want to move Tyler Smith from LT, they are going to need a plug and play starting Guard.
-Cowboys are bringing in all the top receivers, which suggests then are going to take one and one high. Cooks is basically on a 1 yr deal, Lamb 5th yr option next yr.
-We discussed the corner position many times, both Diggs/Gilmore are fa's in 2024 and the depth was terrible last season when called upon
-Already heard the Cowboys state that they are looking to add a power back to replace Zeke.

This doesn't rule out any other positions, especially picking so late, but these are the areas they look to upgrade in the draft process.
No McDonald as of yet correct?
 

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A healthy Gallup was never that great of a player. He’s a serviceable 3 but he’s always struggled with separation and is grossly overpaid. We need an out for his contract ASAP. That + the focus on WR leads me to believe we’ll likely see more 4 WR sets.

A highly drafted CB may not start but they’d still get plenty of snaps. Lewis isn’t guaranteed to be on the roster and all of our backup JAGs accounted for 300+ snaps which this player could eat into.

I’m all for continuing to add talent to the DT room but it’s a poor class so the worst thing we can do is reach for a player over a high value position like WR / CB / DE when those areas of the draft are much stronger. Also - don’t sleep on Osa, he’s turning into a quality player and I’m expecting big things for him this year as our 3T. He had comparable numbers to fletcher Cox last year (outside of sacks due to significantly less snaps).
He had a good season as a #2 in 2019, but our offense really struggled
 

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Bland is a better slot corner then he is on the outside, yes he can play there, but they still need a starting corner for 2024. They usually need some development, which makes it a good idea to draft one now.
I dont have a problem with Bland starting even as the primary slot because he will only be playing about 30% of the snaps outside. I think people too much of the slot thing
 

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A healthy Gallup was never that great of a player. He’s a serviceable 3 but he’s always struggled with separation and is grossly overpaid. We need an out for his contract ASAP. That + the focus on WR leads me to believe we’ll likely see more 4 WR sets.

A highly drafted CB may not start but they’d still get plenty of snaps. Lewis isn’t guaranteed to be on the roster and all of our backup JAGs accounted for 300+ snaps which this player could eat into.

I’m all for continuing to add talent to the DT room but it’s a poor class so the worst thing we can do is reach for a player over a high value position like WR / CB / DE when those areas of the draft are much stronger. Also - don’t sleep on Osa, he’s turning into a quality player and I’m expecting big things for him this year as our 3T. He had comparable numbers to fletcher Cox last year (outside of sacks due to significantly less snaps).
If the adresssing DT in this draft, the best thing is probably looking outside the top 2 rounds. Roy is an interesting guy they are looking at. Jerrod Clark could be an interesting development prospect as long as you get him outside the top 120
 

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So 1 good year…yea I’ve seen enough up to this point to think it’s time to move on and spend our money more effectively.
One good year and the offense struggled. And he live on a steady diet of go routes in 1 on 1's
 

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If the adresssing DT in this draft, the best thing is probably looking outside the top 2 rounds. Roy is an interesting guy they are looking at. Jerrod Clark could be an interesting development prospect as long as you get him outside the top 120
Yep, I’m all for continuing to add talent to the DT room. Osa has shown continuous improvement but unfortunately Gally and Bo have not. Keep an eye on Golston this year who flashed. a little bit at 3T last season.
 

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Yep, I’m all for continuing to add talent to the DT room. Osa has shown continuous improvement but unfortunately Gally and Bo have not. Keep an eye on Golston this year who flashed. a little bit at 3T last season.
Ive seen it somewhere that said Golston played at 290 last year. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets most of Watkins snaps next year
 

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I am a little surprised regarding WR and CB. This clearly is not an "all in" season.

An all in season would be a monster 1-tech, a penetrating 3-tech, OG, RB, TE and LB.

Interest in Will McDonald, priority WR's and CB's signals to me preparing for a post DLaw era as well as insurance ahead of Diggs/Lamb negotiations.
If you're going "all-in" you probably wouldn't address DT in the draft. It doesn't translate well immediately.

You would maybe trade picks for a guy like Jeffrey Simmons or Derrick Brown
 

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How is DT not there? That is a top 2 pick for sure.

Benton, Stromberg, TE and RB need to be the first four picks in whatever order that works.

BTW Stromberg is a beast and a Razorback. How is he not on Jerry’s radar?
 

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Is that their own opinions?
Joe is hearing from his source, Broaddus it is probably his opinion, and Belt is hearing something. Who really knows. I wonder if Gallup is ok. Didn’t he have another surgery for his ankle this offseason?
 

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We’re basically going to draft the positions that we just added in FA to replace those guys in 1/2 years.

This is why plugging holes in FA is so huge, we don’t have to have a rookie start if he isn’t ready. Come in, contribute and get better.
Rookie 1st rounders are almost always expected to start. Taco is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that didn’t.
 

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How is DT not there? That is a top 2 pick for sure.

Benton, Stromberg, TE and RB need to be the first four picks in whatever order that works.

BTW Stromberg is a beast and a Razorback. How is he not on Jerry’s radar?
Does Jerry need to bring Strongberg in or will he already know enough about him?
 

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Rookie 1st rounders are almost always expected to start. Taco is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that didn’t.
In most cases, yes, but this is arguably the deepest roster we’ve had in quite a while.

Also - what position would be a lock to start in the draft? G? TE?

The 2 Gs from last year were better than anyone in this class and they did not play well year 1. TE? Maybe - but if it’s someone like Kincaid who can’t block then they’re likely splitting snaps.

If there is a DE / WR / CB available at 26 that has a similar grade to a G / TE I’m taking the higher value position. They may not technically start but they’ll get snaps and likely be able to get players like Tank / JLew off the books.
 

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Does Jerry need to bring Strongberg in or will he already know enough about him?
He should know enough right? I am not sold at all on TB. Stromberg is a great athlete so I think he can help the interior Yr 1.
 

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In most cases, yes, but this is arguably the deepest roster we’ve had in quite a while.

Also - what position would be a lock to start in the draft? G? TE?

The 2 Gs from last year were better than anyone in this class and they did not play well year 1. TE? Maybe - but if it’s someone like Kincaid who can’t block then they’re likely splitting snaps.

If there is a DE / WR / CB available at 26 that has a similar grade to a G / TE I’m taking the higher value position. They may not technically start but they’ll get snaps and likely be able to get players like Tank / JLew off the books.
From my perspective.

RB, LB, WR, DT, and OG could be expected to start or at least contribute as much as you’d expect from a 1st round pick. I wouldn’t expect a TE to start given how big a learning curve it is in the position but they at least play. A CB, DE, OT, QB or safety has very little chance of making meaningful contribution year 1 on this roster. Unfortunately the 1st four are positions you want to take 1st round because of the value of the position.
 

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From my perspective.

RB, LB, WR, DT, and OG could be expected to start or at least contribute as much as you’d expect from a 1st round pick. I wouldn’t expect a TE to start given how big a learning curve it is in the position but they at least play. A CB, DE, OT, QB or safety has very little chance of making meaningful contribution year 1 on this roster. Unfortunately the 1st four are positions you want to take 1st round because of the value of the position.
Well I already hit on OG. Besides RB being a complete no for me regardless in the 1st Pollard isn’t going to make 10 million to be the backup. After Carter the DT class falls off a cliff. I guess you could talk me into Breese but he’s basically a traits pick and Sanders is the only LBr worth taking in the 1st.

RB - No
OG - No
WR - Yes
DT - Maybe (Bresee is only option and is boom / bust)
LB - Yes to Sanders to only

And I think CB / DE gets enough snaps if the right player falls.
 
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