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also don't be surprised to see Dallas draft Zeitler to become a center. There are other OGs that have perfect center size.
SDogo;4473348 said:Is it it better to be a "pipe dreamer" or just "straight crazy"?
GloryDaysRBack;4473363 said:Nothing crazy about anything I said
SDogo;4473365 said:nah not at all. Konz at 14, I'm sure you would have no problem finding anyone that will agree with you that he's a good value or even a good pick there.
GloryDaysRBack;4473368 said:Nope...wes bunting and raf vela have no issues w it..
SDogo;4473392 said:The same Wes Bunting who has him going 24th in his mock and recently as in yesterday on ESPN radio said there is no justification for taking a interior offensive lineman in the top 15 picks?
Vela...........come on. Find a blogger on here who has a head on his shoulders and he can do the same job.
At least Bunting is a AP member and involved in the scouting community.
Konz in no way or form presents any value at 14 or before 20. As much as I like DeCastro I'm not sold he presents value at 14.
GloryDaysRBack;4473408 said:bunting has had dallas taking konz in multiple mock drafts..hes his 15th ranked player in this entire class..
GloryDaysRBack;4473415 said:i can guarantee you one thing..Konz is slipping to the 4th round like you have led many posters on this site to believe..youll be lucky if he falls to the second round..he sure isnt sniffing anywhere near 45
SDogo;4473419 said:Multiple as in 1 because he has only released 5 and he only had Konz going to Dallas in his second mock that was released in January.
SDogo;4473425 said:If there is a poster here that has been lead to believe by my words alone that Konz will slip to the 4th please make yourself known.....................I'll be waiting a while.
Anyways, I'm not going to guarantee he will go anywhere after the top 15-20 picks play out but I sure in the hell will guarantee he wont go in the top 15 picks and rightfully so.
SDogo;4473425 said:If there is a poster here that has been lead to believe by my words alone that Konz will slip to the 4th please make yourself known.....................I'll be waiting a while.
Anyways, I'm not going to guarantee he will go anywhere after the top 15-20 picks play out but I sure in the hell will guarantee he wont go in the top 15 picks and rightfully so.
GloryDaysRBack;4473427 said:who do you think convinced Vela that Konz was a viable option at 14?
bunting
GloryDaysRBack;4473428 said:assuming in this scenario that all of the players we were hoping to land at 14 were now gone..
SDogo;4473435 said:I thought I made it clear Vela's contributions to the draft while entertaining are meaningless to me for the simple fact you just stated, they are not his so we can leave him out of it. We are basically talking about Buntings comments through a 3rd party.
Yet if that's the way we play, then Vela should soon be echoing Buntings comments from yesterday. Will they hold more water when it's reversed?
I understand your grudge with DeCastro and the attention he is getting, you have made that clear but there is no reason to lose your head and sensibility when you have been around long enough to know, there is ever once in a blue moon prospect at OC that offers good value at 14. The last one and best one in generations went to Pittsburgh at 18 and he was twice the prospect Konz is.
GloryDaysRBack;4473432 said:you dont have to wait any longer..there are guys like cowboyjoe and burma who think Konz is going to die on the field
SDogo;4473435 said:I thought I made it clear Vela's contributions to the draft while entertaining are meaningless to me for the simple fact you just stated, they are not his so we can leave him out of it. We are basically talking about Buntings comments through a 3rd party.
Yet if that's the way we play, then Vela should soon be echoing Buntings comments from yesterday. Will they hold more water when it's reversed?
I understand your grudge with DeCastro and the attention he is getting, you have made that clear but there is no reason to lose your head and sensibility when you have been around long enough to know, there is ever once in a blue moon prospect at OC that offers good value at 14. The last one and best one in generations went to Pittsburgh at 18 and he was twice the prospect Konz is.
GloryDaysRBack;4473439 said:I have no qualms w decastro at 14..i think there could be better options but i dont have a problem w decastro at 14
GloryDaysRBack;4473443 said:you told me to find you people that agreed w me on konz at 14 and i found you 2...give me the stipulations before the game starts...not after
SDogo;4473441 said:You have medical information to prove otherwise? It may not happen, it may. He could die in his sleep at 85. Bottom line is he has a medical condition that requires him to medicate. Medications that can cause complications. That's the facts, no way to skirt it. It has to be looked at and that's what I brought to the attention of the posters here. Just as I would if Joe Prospect had a history of warts on his feet or Bill The Man got arrested for selling stolen jaw breakers. We talk about red flags every day, not sure why this is different.