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Rk Team BCS Avg.

1 Alabama 0.974
2 Texas Tech 0.937
3 Penn State 0.928
4 Texas 0.853
5 Florida 0.826
6 Oklahoma 0.822
7 Southern Cal 0.755
8 Utah 0.697
9 Oklahoma St. 0.666
10 Boise St. 0.699
11 Ohio St. 0.555
12 Texas Christian 0.544
13 Georgia 0.536
14 Missouri 0.492
15 Brigham Young 0.373
16 LSU 0.371
17 Ball St. 0.356
18 Michigan St. 0.336
19 North Carolina 0.263
20 Georgia Tech 0.188
21 California 0.112
22 Florida St. 0.087
23 Maryland 0.082
24 Northwestern 0.081
25 West Virginia 0.080
 

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Texas @4?! wow they're still very much in it
 

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Ren;2393249 said:
Texas @4?! wow they're still very much in it

at least the BCS has sense enough to take into account that UT beat OU and should stay ahead of them. UT also lost to a much higher ranked opponent and beaten some higher ranked opponents than **.

my only issue with the BCS top 10 is OSU being ranked behind Utah. OSU should be 8 and Utah should be 9.
 

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Flawed garbage. At least the garbage is on our side though.

florida lost to a 5-4, bad, ole miss team and jumped a 1 loss zeroklahoma team that lost to high ranked texas.

stupid stupid stupid

the credibility of the ncaa is lost, has been for years. the bcs is made to spread the money about through the schools that make it to the bcs. its not to crown a true champion.

a small bcs playoff is very necessary but we won't see that happen because the idiots running the ncaa can make more money under the system we have now.

complete garbage. but again, at least its pu thats getting screwed, not us.
 

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I was close with my rankings...i had

1 - Alabama
2 - Texas Tech
3 - Penn St.
4 - Texas
5 - OU
6 - USC
7 - **
8 - OSU
9 - Utah
10 - BSU

I still believe my rankings are more just and fair than the actual rankings.
 

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BCS is a whacked system, although it's been 75-80% indisputable since it's 10-year inception.

My argument against a playoff would be, it would eliminate the importance of any single game. A "playoff" system instantly transforms the college football rivalry into a relic.

I'm not sure 50-75K stadiums will sellout, at premium prices, if they're playing their 2-8 homecoming, with a 9-1 record.

It also essentially makes a game like last night's UT @ TT meaningless to the loser, because you can just make it up in a tournament.

BCS IMHO is not perfect, but I'll take the "disputed" national champion every 2-3 out of 10 years, over the loss of the excitement of a Mich/OSU, USC/Oregon or UT/OU any year.
 

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Biggems;2393333 said:
I was close with my rankings...i had

1 - Alabama
2 - Texas Tech
3 - Penn St.
4 - Texas
5 - OU
6 - USC
7 - **
8 - OSU
9 - Utah
10 - BSU

I still believe my rankings are more just and fair than the actual rankings.

I was way off, I had Penn State 117th.
 

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DallasCowpoke;2393586 said:
BCS is a whacked system, although it's been 75-80% indisputable since it's 10-year inception.

My argument against a playoff would be, it would eliminate the importance of any single game. A "playoff" system instantly transforms the college football rivalry into a relic.

I'm not sure 50-75K stadiums will sellout, at premium prices, if they're playing their 2-8 homecoming, with a 9-1 record.

It also essentially makes a game like last night's UT @ TT meaningless to the loser, because you can just make it up in a tournament.

BCS IMHO is not perfect, but I'll take the "disputed" national champion every 2-3 out of 10 years, over the loss of the excitement of a Mich/OSU, USC/Oregon or UT/OU any year.

I'd rather find out who the best team is on the field. I don't understand your rivalry "relic" thing. Why would Texas/OU game mean any less this year? Why would Michigan/OSU mean any less?
 

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jimmy40;2393611 said:
I was way off, I had Penn State 117th.

any team from the big 10 should be excluded from the bcs title game unless they win every game by at least 3 touchdowns.


what a horrible excuse of a "power" conference.
 

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jimmy40;2393636 said:
I don't understand your rivalry "relic" thing. Why would Texas/OU game mean any less this year? Why would Michigan/OSU mean any less?

So you're system looks at a 1-loss, top-10 team, with that loss being to an unranked opponent, as an equal to a top 10 team's loss to a more equivalent op?

That sure seems like it'd get awfully convoluted, especially considering what's happening in the ACC, PAC 10, Big 12, SEC etc this year.

With 11-12 games making up a college's regular season schedule, the term "big game", has always seemed like a misused and misapplied analogy to me.
 

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DallasCowpoke;2393586 said:
BCS is a whacked system, although it's been 75-80% indisputable since it's 10-year inception.

My argument against a playoff would be, it would eliminate the importance of any single game. A "playoff" system instantly transforms the college football rivalry into a relic.

I'm not sure 50-75K stadiums will sellout, at premium prices, if they're playing their 2-8 homecoming, with a 9-1 record.

It also essentially makes a game like last night's UT @ TT meaningless to the loser, because you can just make it up in a tournament.

BCS IMHO is not perfect, but I'll take the "disputed" national champion every 2-3 out of 10 years, over the loss of the excitement of a Mich/OSU, USC/Oregon or UT/OU any year.

I disagree. what you have to do is get a set number of conferences. have each conference have a conference championship. have the winner go to the playoffs. So the only way to compete for the National Championship is to win your Conference Championship.....this would make the regular season rivalries even more intense and meaningful than they are now.

Right now, even though OU lost to Texas, they still have a shot to make the NC game, even if they dont play in the Big 12 Championship game.

Also, with a playoff system, Conference games become hugely important, while non-conference games really don't affect your chance to make the playoffs. Because of this, you can see more pre-Conference games between heavyweights. It would be great to see USC vs OU, Alabama vs Texas, Florida vs Penn St. all in September. We could have this with my playoff system. Plus you could bring back strength of schedule component, to make the top teams try and play better non-conference competition.

This is what HS does. My alma mater always plays a tough nondistrict schedule, against some top level 5A teams, and even if they lose, all it does is better prepare them for district. Then they try to win enough in district to make the playoffs.

I believe there are 120 D-IA schools. They could have ten 12-team Conferences. The playoffs would be a 4 week process. The 4 lowest ranked Conferences, would play in the Wild Card round (the 2 higher ranked teams get home field) with the winners of the two games making it to the final 8, the Quarterfinals (the 4 highest ranked teams get homefield)....the winners move on to the Semifinals (neutral site: Fiesta and Sugar)....and the final two schools play for the National Championship sometime during New Year's week (Rose). The Big 3 Bowls can rotate each year.

The week between the Quarterfinals and Semifinals, you can have 12 lesser bowl games.

The week between the Semifinals and the NC game, you can have the rest of the bowl games, the bigger named ones, like Orange, Cotton, Alamo, Holiday, Peach, and Gator....12 bowl games.
 

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DallasCowpoke;2393847 said:
So you're system looks at a 1-loss, top-10 team, with that loss being to an unranked opponent, as an equal to a top 10 team's loss to a more equivalent op?

That sure seems like it'd get awfully convoluted, especially considering what's happening in the ACC, PAC 10, Big 12, SEC etc this year.

With 11-12 games making up a college's regular season schedule, the term "big game", has always seemed like a misused and misapplied analogy to me.

March Madness x 1,000. That's what you'd have with a playoff.
 

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Biggems;2393333 said:
I was close with my rankings...i had

1 - Alabama
2 - Texas Tech
3 - Penn St.
4 - Texas
5 - OU
6 - USC
7 - **
8 - OSU
9 - Utah
10 - BSU

I still believe my rankings are more just and fair than the actual rankings.

thats what m y ranking would be actually I wouldn't have ** or USC in the top 10 after losing to unranked teams.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2395085 said:
thats what m y ranking would be actually I wouldn't have ** or USC in the top 10 after losing to unranked teams.

** deserves the top 10 cause they spanked LSU and Georgia. If I am not mistaken, they went into LSU and beat them down.

as for USC, I could see where they shouldn't be in the top 10.
 

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Question:

If the Coaches Poll and Harris Poll come to their senses and rank Texas back ahead of OU than would Texas stay ahead of OU if both teams win out and Tech beats Okie State?
 

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CATCH17;2395183 said:
Question:

If the Coaches Poll and Harris Poll come to their senses and rank Texas back ahead of OU than would Texas stay ahead of OU if both teams win out and Tech beats Okie State?

i doubt it. if tech beats o state and only loses to ou, and ou doesn't lose at all, i doubt texas has a chance.

you probably know the old saying, "better to lose early than late. " i guess we can get some enjoyment out of the sooners getting beat down on the big stage again.

some are saying there is a chance for florida and ou in the title game... *pukes* ou can score, but florida would run all over that silly sooner defense
 

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I heard Texas LOST to Texas Tech? Is that true? :D




BooooooooooooMER !
 

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Biggems;2395150 said:
** deserves the top 10 cause they spanked LSU and Georgia. If I am not mistaken, they went into LSU and beat them down.

as for USC, I could see where they shouldn't be in the top 10.

I thought they took margin of victory and strength of schedule out of the factoring when doing these rankings.
 
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