Been saying this for years

[bluemagic4ever]

I have been saying this FOREVER... Dak is hands down better in run first, play action heavy approaches, his numbers don't lie. This has to be a focal of the offense. Money doesn't increase skillset, so money doesn't justify putting him in situations that aren't geared towards his strengths. Which is how people think, he makes the most so he should be able to throw more. NO, he makes the most bc of the market and bc of Dallas horrible negotiations but that doesnt mean keep putting him in shotgun. You asked for the worse version of him. He can do it on occasions but not every game. Focus on OL, RB and phsyicality and play calling,

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dak is hands down better in run first, play action heavy approaches, his numbers don't lie. Focus on OL, RB and phsyicality and play calling

Absolutely spot on!!!

Making Dak a better QB isn't rocket science stuff. But the Cowboys refuse. Very frustrating.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"The Cowboys" gave Mike a broken down Zeke as a starting RB and two rookie starting OLmen this year.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I have been saying this FOREVER... Dak is hands down better in run first, play action heavy approaches, his numbers don't lie. This has to be a focal of the offense. Money doesn't increase skillset, so money doesn't justify putting him in situations that aren't geared towards his strengths. Which is how people think, he makes the most so he should be able to throw more. NO, he makes the most bc of the market and bc of Dallas horrible negotiations but that doesnt mean keep putting him in shotgun. You asked for the worse version of him. He can do it on occasions but not every game. Focus on OL, RB and phsyicality and play calling,

Because of the success over the years he's had in the passing game caused him to get the big bag, NOW, in a normal functioning organization you play to your strengths, our strength is, we paid you big money we're going to get our money's worth, and NOT help you where you can really be helped. Get Dak a good runner, take the pressure off of him, lean on the run, and play action as needed. Instead, we just pass pass pass, and throw in a stupid run up the middle just to say we had some sort of balance! lol

 

[Coogiguy03]

"The Cowboys" gave Mike a broken down Zeke as a starting RB and two rookie starting OLmen this year.

couldn't tell Jerry this, we just had to have Zeke, the same way he left and went to the Pats is the same way he returned, he was useless and not worth the effort in bringing in

 

[bluemagic4ever]

Because of the success over the years he's had in the passing game caused him to get the big bag, NOW, in a normal functioning organization you play to your strengths, our strength is, we paid you big money we're going to get our money's worth, and NOT help you where you can really be helped. Get Dak a good runner, take the pressure off of him, lean on the run, and play action as needed. Instead, we just pass pass pass, and throw in a stupid run up the middle just to say we had some sort of balance! lol

Which is why they need real coaching. Bc someone needs to say - that dumb logic aint it lol...The top 6 teams in rush yards all made the playoffs for the 1st time in NFL history (BAL, PHI, WSH, TB, GB, DET). Only one QB Daniels isnt getting a bag lol... everyone else knows they gotta win by sticking to their strengths except us.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Which is why they need real coaching. Bc someone needs to say - that dumb logic aint it lol...The top 6 teams in rush yards all made the playoffs for the 1st time in NFL history (BAL, PHI, WSH, TB, GB, DET). Only one QB Daniels isnt getting a bag lol... everyone else knows they gotta win by sticking to their strengths except us.

we chose NOT to have a good RB, remember we couldn't afford it lol

 

[fivetwos]

I have been saying this FOREVER... Dak is hands down better in run first, play action heavy approaches, his numbers don't lie. This has to be a focal of the offense. Money doesn't increase skillset, so money doesn't justify putting him in situations that aren't geared towards his strengths. Which is how people think, he makes the most so he should be able to throw more. NO, he makes the most bc of the market and bc of Dallas horrible negotiations but that doesnt mean keep putting him in shotgun. You asked for the worse version of him. He can do it on occasions but not every game. Focus on OL, RB and phsyicality and play calling,

Agree that his salary doesn’t make him a prolific pocket passer. Try telling Jerry that.

Werder thinks Jerry is the guy that has to convince McCarthy to want to run the ball?

That’s rich.

 

[sbark]

We would have to know what % of run plays thst Dak checks out of at the LOS

I can see a D bring 8 in the box presnap knowing Dak will check out to a pass play

 

[fivetwos]

It’s also not quite as simple as saying “we want to run the ball.” Mike said they were going to do that, and supposedly why Moore was gone.

You have to be good at it to be at the top of the league. You can’t keep running the ball when you’re down by 3-4 scores in the third quarter.

 

[blueblood70]

Which is why they need real coaching. Bc someone needs to say - that dumb logic aint it lol...The top 6 teams in rush yards all made the playoffs for the 1st time in NFL history (BAL, PHI, WSH, TB, GB, DET). Only one QB Daniels isnt getting a bag lol... everyone else knows they gotta win by sticking to their strengths except us.

bo nix doesnt have bag either.. CJ?? So I don't know about the money thing I don't think that matters Patrick mahomes won as a rookie and he won once he got paid he doesn't have a great run game but they had one of the best records in the league it's a team game it will always be a team game we need more than just a run game to fix this team , TE AM...

Of course we need a better run game I think everyone saw how much better this team was late in the season when they found a run game and also got more creative with Turpin get more motion I mean it's not rocket science but apparently Mike McCarthys not skilled enough to get that done..

 

[thunderpimp91]

I'd have to do some serious film review to make any sort of actual decision on where I stand on the issue, but the numbers are interesting....

In 2023 Dak with play action was:
65 comp %, 6.6YPA in 171 attempts

No play action he was
70 comp % 7.9YPA in 340 attempts.

There is a lot that could impact the why behind these numbers, and the 2024 splits seem to be a little more neutral, but it does make sense that after Daks best season as a pro the tried to continue that formula.

 

[Zordon]

This would require a fresh start. Not necessarily w/ MM, but at least a new oline coach and Schottenheimer gone.

 

[Redsfan_83]

$60 large ones limits the ability to biuld a run game...Rush showed we could have one at a miniscule cost. We all know what happens when you advertise a run game, D stacks the box and forces the QB to throw. Sounds simple, but in the situation this team is in, it's not

 

[blueblood70]

I have been saying this FOREVER... Dak is hands down better in run first, play action heavy approaches, his numbers don't lie. This has to be a focal of the offense. Money doesn't increase skillset, so money doesn't justify putting him in situations that aren't geared towards his strengths. Which is how people think, he makes the most so he should be able to throw more. NO, he makes the most bc of the market and bc of Dallas horrible negotiations but that doesnt mean keep putting him in shotgun. You asked for the worse version of him. He can do it on occasions but not every game. Focus on OL, RB and phsyicality and play calling,

first of all let me preface this 1st and I know it's an anomaly and I know last year it started out slow but Prescott had one of his best years as a professional last year I mean he led the league in scoring they scored a ton of touchdowns they scored a lot of points which I believe they led the league there too kinda hard not to come to that conclusion without looking and he did it with Mike McCarthy and that offense the run game wasn't much better so yeah I think people need to appreciate Prescott more because he did do that and he's had some of the top three offenses in this league when healthy with three different coordinators with three different philosophies but let's just get that straight this year was garbage and then he gets hurt because everything wasn't working offensive line with the two rookies Terrence Steele Martin playing under what he was supposed to literally created no run game that tight ends not getting their name called enough I mean it just fell apart...

And while I agree with you I just gotta point out that the second team all pro second MVP voting which by the way right now that's looking really bad on the MVP voters they should've gave Prescott the nod or one of the skill players last year 'cause now they're in this Gray area where Lamar Jackson this year did earn the MVP he was the best player in the league as far as quarterbacks go but now they would have to give it to him three years in a row when he didn't deserve it last year and they may end up giving it to Josh Allen or somebody else they put themselves in bad position but that comes back to somehow Prescott didn't get enough flowers last year for making this offense one of the top offenses in the league with Jags at running back and Mike McCarthy and this coaching staff plus lack of a #2 WR or top TE, not doing anything to help him...​

look, I don't know a quarterback on the planet that doesn't function better with balance meaning a strong run game scheming and maybe hiding what you're actually doing so they can't anticipate so easily when you're 1 dimensional you've been saying it I don't think it needs to be said I think it's just common knowledge...

Which by the way the Cowboys may have lost their way this year not addressing the run game in the draft or free agency and waiting on Mike McCarthy to figure out Rico should have been utilized with hunter as a blocker and use interpret and others in motion and getting some creativity into this offense too little too late...

If this would have happened at a training camp we probably would have been crying so much but I don't remember many years with the Dallas Cowboys outside of 2015 and this year that the Dallas Cowboys didn't put an emphasis on the run game we've drafted high Ezekiel Elliott we've got DeMarco Murray we've had many of the top backs in this league and still didn't win a championship but yes it still puts the importance on it but I gotta keep mentioning Kansas City what they're doing with Kareem hunt and a bunch of dudes and even Patrick mahomes is not playing up to his normal standards and they still have one of the best records in the league so yeah coaching matters it matters sometimes more than the player itself because I think we could have done a lot more early in the season what we had but Mike McCarthy refused to do it I believe he has a bad case of the I play not to lose games early in the season and then when it falls apart he makes changes too little too late..

 

[bluemagic4ever]

$60 large ones limits the ability to biuld a run game...Rush showed we could have one at a miniscule cost. We all know what happens when you advertise a run game, D stacks the box and forces the QB to throw. Sounds simple, but in the situation this team is in, it's not

Totally inaccurate. If they had got the deal done earlier and not waited it out we would have had more than enough. We have 17M thats been sitting on the cap. They could have definitely address the running back position so - maybe you need to go back and reassess the numbers. Bc the only reason we didnt was bc they didnt want to.

 

[bluemagic4ever]

This would require a fresh start. Not necessarily w/ MM, but at least a new oline coach and Schottenheimer gone.

I dont disagree but MM doesnt have a focus on running the ball. Mr. Run the d--- ball, has run the ball less in Dallas and in his career than Kellen Moore did % wise in Dallas. He isnt that coach to focus on the run.

 

[bluemagic4ever]

bo nix doesnt have bag either.. CJ?? So I don't know about the money thing I don't think that matters Patrick mahomes won as a rookie and he won once he got paid he doesn't have a great run game but they had one of the best records in the league it's a team game it will always be a team game we need more than just a run game to fix this team , TE AM...

Of course we need a better run game I think everyone saw how much better this team was late in the season when they found a run game and also got more creative with Turpin get more motion I mean it's not rocket science but apparently Mike McCarthys not skilled enough to get that done..

The reference to those guys were the fact, they are the top 6 rushing teams but they have heavy investments at the QB spots money wise. But the running game is definitely something that will fix both sides of the ball and bring balance to this team.

 

[bluemagic4ever]

It’s also not quite as simple as saying “we want to run the ball.” Mike said they were going to do that, and supposedly why Moore was gone.

You have to be good at it to be at the top of the league. You can’t keep running the ball when you’re down by 3-4 scores in the third quarter.

Agreed, it requires, good OL coaching, scheme, creativity on offense and maximizing your personnel which we arent good at.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Absolutely spot on!!!

Making Dak a better QB isn't rocket science stuff. But the Cowboys refuse. Very frustrating.

But made him the highest player in the league ...........make sense?