Before you say we draft poorly

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I have made a list of all the players in the NFC East who were drafted from 2010-2013 who are either starters or important role players on their respective teams. I did this purely because I was curious but what I found was pretty encouraging/surprising.

Players who I consider to be Impact/Well above average players are in bold

I also included a list of notable "Busts" (Either 1st or 2nd rd picks who are not with the team or are not notable contributors to the team



New York Giants:
Jason Pierre Paul - Starter
Linval Joseph - Starter
Prince Amukamara - Starter
Jaicquan Williams - Starter
Jerrell Jernigan
David Wilson - Starter
Rueben Randle - Starter
Justin Pugh - Starter
Demontre Moore

Notable Busts: Marvin Austin,

Philadelphia Eagles:
Riley Cooper - Starter
Clay Harbor
Alex Henery - Starter
Fletcher Cox - Starter
Brandon Boykin - Starter
Mychal Kendricks - Starter
Vinny Curry
Nick Foles - Starter
Bryce Brown
Lane Johnson - Starter
Bennie Logan
Earl Wolff - Starter

Notable Busts: Brandon Graham, Nate Allen, Danny Watkins, Jaiquawn Jarrett

Washington Commanders:
Trent Williams - Starter
Perry Riley - Starter
Ryan Kerrigan - Starter
Leonard Hankerson
Roy Helu
Dejon Gomes
Aldrick Robinson
Robert Griffin III - Starter
Alfred Morris - Starter
Jordan Reed - Starter
David Amerson - Starter

Notable Busts: Jarvis Jenkins

Dallas Cowboys:
Dez Bryant - Starter
Sean Lee - Starter
Tyron Smith - Starter
Bruce Carter - Starter
Demarco Murray - Starter
Dwayne Harris
Morris Claiborne - Starter
Tyrone Crawford
James Hanna
Travis Frederick - Starter
Terrance Williams - Starter
JJ Wilcox - Starter

Notable Busts: None


Final Results are

Giants: 9 Total, 6 Starters, 1 Well above average player , 1 Bust

Eagles: 12 Total, 8 Starters, 0 Well above average players, 4 Busts

Commanders: 11 Total, 7 Starters, 4 Well above average players, 1 Bust

Cowboys: 12 Total, 8 Starters, 3 Well above average players, 0 Busts


In my opinion the Cowboys have arguably had the best drafting in the NFC East since 2010. One could certainly make an argument for the Commanders but that also hinges on what becomes of RG3.. I listed him in bold because of last year but the way things are going I'm not sure that will stay that way..

This also doesn't include undrafted contributors since 2010 which I am quite certain we have the most of (Barry Church, Dan Bailey, Lance Dunbar, Ronald Leary)

The Cowboys DO have the best Talent in the NFC East and have the best young talent as well.. It's time that translates but as long as you keep losing every close game with a good opponent it will be difficult. I don't want a coaching change because of all that comes along with (Change of staff, Philosophy, a lot of Personell changes) etc.. But If Garrett can't get us at least to the playoffs this year I think he needs to go.. He has what he needs to work with and even though the Defense has been a major let down the offense has SEVERELY UNDERACHIEVED.. That falls on him.
 

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Just noticed that you have the cowboys down for 8 starters but I counted nine on your list.

As for RG3-N-Out. Considering they used 3 first round picks on him, he needs to play like the second coming of Montana. It would be perfect if they end up with a top 5 pick this year that they won't get to use.
 

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Nice work. But all seems reasonably close. But I can see where you say Cowboys look to have drafted best. Eagles possibly is up there, except for the 4 bust you have.
It would be interesting to see the rest of the NFL. I would bet Dallas is in the top half easily.
Other teams only draft better on this forum opinions over Dallas, and Dallas always suck at it, but in reality, it's about the same as other teams. Yes some teams will draft better, some worse, but it's a cycle.
 

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Just noticed that you have the cowboys down for 8 starters but I counted nine on your list.

As for RG3-N-Out. Considering they used 3 first round picks on him, he needs to play like the second coming of Montana. It would be perfect if they end up with a top 5 pick this year that they won't get to use.

You're right. Should be 9
 

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Seems like an indictment of the coaching staff more than anything else. Why aren't they getting more out these guys?

Been a lot of injuries defensively but yes a lot of underachieving around here..
 

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Just noticed that you have the cowboys down for 8 starters but I counted nine on your list.

As for RG3-N-Out. Considering they used 3 first round picks on him, he needs to play like the second coming of Montana. It would be perfect if they end up with a top 5 pick this year that they won't get to use.

Dont think little Danny wont take that into account.....
 

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Nothing new here. Most of us see that Jerry and Company have been doing their homework in the war room. It takes another year or two and these young players will become prime..time...prime...time...
 

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Seems like an indictment of the coaching staff more than anything else. Why aren't they getting more out these guys?

Marty B could be a case where we didnt get the most out of him while he was here.

To me his blocking was a valuable asset when compared to Hanna.
 

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I have made a list of all the players in the NFC East who were drafted from 2010-2013 who are either starters or important role players on their respective teams. I did this purely because I was curious but what I found was pretty encouraging/surprising.

Players who I consider to be Impact/Well above average players are in bold

I also included a list of notable "Busts" (Either 1st or 2nd rd picks who are not with the team or are not notable contributors to the team



New York Giants:
Jason Pierre Paul - Starter
Linval Joseph - Starter
Prince Amukamara - Starter
Jaicquan Williams - Starter
Jerrell Jernigan
David Wilson - Starter
Rueben Randle - Starter
Justin Pugh - Starter
Demontre Moore

Notable Busts: Marvin Austin,

Philadelphia Eagles:
Riley Cooper - Starter
Clay Harbor
Alex Henery - Starter
Fletcher Cox - Starter
Brandon Boykin - Starter
Mychal Kendricks - Starter
Vinny Curry
Nick Foles - Starter
Bryce Brown
Lane Johnson - Starter
Bennie Logan
Earl Wolff - Starter

Notable Busts: Brandon Graham, Nate Allen, Danny Watkins, Jaiquawn Jarrett

Washington Commanders:
Trent Williams - Starter
Perry Riley - Starter
Ryan Kerrigan - Starter
Leonard Hankerson
Roy Helu
Dejon Gomes
Aldrick Robinson
Robert Griffin III - Starter
Alfred Morris - Starter
Jordan Reed - Starter
David Amerson - Starter

Notable Busts: Jarvis Jenkins

Dallas Cowboys:
Dez Bryant - Starter
Sean Lee - Starter
Tyron Smith - Starter
Bruce Carter - Starter
Demarco Murray - Starter
Dwayne Harris
Morris Claiborne - Starter
Tyrone Crawford
James Hanna
Travis Frederick - Starter
Terrance Williams - Starter
JJ Wilcox - Starter

Notable Busts: None


Final Results are

Giants: 9 Total, 6 Starters, 1 Well above average player , 1 Bust

Eagles: 12 Total, 8 Starters, 0 Well above average players, 4 Busts

Commanders: 11 Total, 7 Starters, 4 Well above average players, 1 Bust

Cowboys: 12 Total, 8 Starters, 3 Well above average players, 0 Busts


In my opinion the Cowboys have arguably had the best drafting in the NFC East since 2010. One could certainly make an argument for the Commanders but that also hinges on what becomes of RG3.. I listed him in bold because of last year but the way things are going I'm not sure that will stay that way..

This also doesn't include undrafted contributors since 2010 which I am quite certain we have the most of (Barry Church, Dan Bailey, Lance Dunbar, Ronald Leary)

The Cowboys DO have the best Talent in the NFC East and have the best young talent as well.. It's time that translates but as long as you keep losing every close game with a good opponent it will be difficult. I don't want a coaching change because of all that comes along with (Change of staff, Philosophy, a lot of Personell changes) etc.. But If Garrett can't get us at least to the playoffs this year I think he needs to go.. He has what he needs to work with and even though the Defense has been a major let down the offense has SEVERELY UNDERACHIEVED.. That falls on him.

Nice post, this is where I think Jerry never gets any credit, he' the GM, if we kill him when he makes bad decisions, let's give him credit when he deserves it.
This also goes against everybody that defends Garrett saying we have the worst talent in the league, they say we are not winning because of talent not because Garrett is an awful HC, this chart says otherwise and I agree.
 

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It is fun to pick at JerryDooDoo but as of late he has assembled a decent scouting team and with Garrett has made the right choices remember he was in cap hell in 2011 and has done well. Still don't like JG as a leader on the field.
 

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With all that talent, we have 27 wins since 2010.

Giants have 32

Commanders have 24

Eagles have 28 (they have 1 extra game this year than the rest of the NFC East)
 

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I'm not sure what to think about him other than he's injury prone but some consider Mo a bust. I'm on the fence I guess.
 

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Interesting list and thanks for taking the time to do that......But I don't no what that means for Dallas. So many young guys are starting due to injuries and there seems to be a lack of talent on this team.

What does it mean when the Cowboys are playing their draft picks, is it because of talent? Choice? or next man up? or stuck in Salary Cap He**. I enjoy watching the young guns play, but don't know if they can match up to the Seahawks, 49ers, and other Superbowl Caliber teams.....maybe its the reason they are 8-8 every year, what do I no...LOL
 
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