Belichick Looking To Show It's All About The Coaching?

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POSTED 9:27 a.m. EST; UPDATED 10:05 a.m. EST, March 31, 2006

BELICHICK LOOKING TO SHOW IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COACHING?

As New Englanders continue to wring their hands regarding the exodus of key players from the Patriots and the failure of the team to throw cap money at
available free agents, there's a theory making the rounds in league circles that coach
Bill Belichick plans to show that, in the end, the team's success has had more to do with the coaching than with the quality of the players on the roster.

We don't know whether or not this school of thought is accurate. All we know is that, for some folks who work in and around the NFL for a living, the only plausible explanation for not using a cap bulge believed to be in the neighborhood of $20 million is that Belichick wants to show that he can win even if key players like David Givens, Willie McGinest, and Adam Vinatieri leave, and even if no one with any significant name recognition is added to fill their shoes.

If that's Belichick's intent, some of his current players haven't gotten the memo. "It's been discouraging at time, to tell you the truth," said linebacker Tedy Bruschi regarding the recent exodus.

Part of the team's cap surplus surely is being held for the purposes of extending the contract of defensive lineman Richard Seymour. But don't expect a new contract to come soon, because under the CBA a team cannot restructure a player's deal twice within the same year in order to give him a raise. Last August, the Pats "adjusted" Seymour's rookie contract to get him to abandon a training camp holdout.

Though the notion of an eventual new deal for Seymour won't be enough to reduce the collective blood pressure of the team's fan base, we think the situation isn't as bad as feared. This team has won games over the past couple of years despite a revolving door of injuries. So for 2006, the faithful should just assume that Givens, Vinatieri, and McGinest already have suffered torn ACLs.
 

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Belichek is letting this get to his head.

Coaching only makes a difference when all other things are equal. But when you have a lousy team, no coach can make a difference.

Jimmah was a great coach ... yet he had a 1-15 season as well as 2 Super Bowls.

When he had the talent, he won. When he had the talent, he beat the living crap out of everyone.

When he didn't, he stunk.

Belichek will learn when the Pats are in the basement and can't beat the Jets ... it's all about the players. Get the best players first ... then coaching really makes a difference.

Here's egg on your face Bill. F the Pats!!!
 

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First off so much credit is given to Beli about the Patriots but not enough credit is given to Parcells because who recruited those key plays and the coaching staff??? I think a big piece was Weiss and it showed last year.

The thing that irritates me is New England has played in one of the WORST division throughout their SB runs. Last year they played in one of the worst divisions I can remember and they were mediocre. Granted they had injuries but even healthy at the end of last year they were not impressive.

Beli will will lose this gamble
 

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I am beginning to sense the theme "whistling while walking past the graveyard". By any measure the patsy's have lost talent this past offseason and have very little to show as regards replacements. This coming off a decidedly down year. I guess we will find out just how brilliant BB is this coming season.
 

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If it's all about coaching, then why didn't Belicheck coach better last year so they could win the SB. Yep, they had a lot of injuries but so do other teams; agains, if it's about all coaching, they should have won despite these injuries. I do believe a good coach can improve the team's performance if he can adjust his schemes to fit those players, but nobody can make the necessary adjustments if the talent isn't there. Shula was a great head coach, but despite have efforts, he wasn't able to get the Dolphins back to the SB after their SB runs in the 70s.

I guess Belicheck figures he doesn't need Vinatieri, any FG kicker will do. Good luck Bill, your going to need it.
 

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sago1 said:
If it's all about coaching, then why didn't Belicheck coach better last year so they could win the SB. Yep, they had a lot of injuries but so do other teams; agains, if it's about all coaching, they should have won despite these injuries. I do believe a good coach can improve the team's performance if he can adjust his schemes to fit those players, but nobody can make the necessary adjustments if the talent isn't there. Shula was a great head coach, but despite have efforts, he wasn't able to get the Dolphins back to the SB after their SB runs in the 70s.

I guess Belicheck figures he doesn't need Vinatieri, any FG kicker will do. Good luck Bill, your going to need it.
BB may be a arrogant jerk, but he is a excellent coach. Losing AV is going to come back and bite him though.:laugh2:
 

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BB does get alot more more credit than he really deserves.. How did he do with the Browns again?
 

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COWBOYSNUM1 said:
BB may be a arrogant jerk, but he is a excellent coach. Losing AV is going to come back and bite him though.:laugh2:

A leader is only as good as his supporting cast. Considering BP gift wrapped that cast for him in NE and he fell on his face in Cleveland I am hesitent to say he is a good coach. I think he did a good job managing the talent he had but I don't think he is very good at getting the talent which would explain Cleveland.
 

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Slyster said:
BB does get alot more more credit than he really deserves.. How did he do with the Browns again?

That's a ridiculous statement. He learned from his mistakes in Cleveland. What's wrong with that? Oh, and what's Parcells' record without BB? How many Super Bowls has he won without Belichick? Thank you. See, the argument goes both ways. You can hate Belichick all you want - and many in the NFL do - but nobody doubts his coaching abilities. To say he's overrated when he won three Super Bowls in four years with not nearly as good a teams as the 90s Cowboys is just stupid. The guy may be a jerk but he can coach. There's no doubt about that. I think the Hall of Fame will agree with that when he retires.
 

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I can understand most of the players they allowed to let go. McGinest was too expensive given his age. Givens got #1 WR money. Ashworth got more money than they wanted to give him and they'll probably move Kaczur to the right side.

However, while I understand not being keen on signing AV to that type of deal, there's a boatload of difference between him and just about any college kicker they can find or even worse, if they go and sign Edinger.


Rich..........
 

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An exert from a Pittsburgh paper of Bill Cowher talking about Belichick:

Belichick is widely regarded as the brightest mind in the game — “He’s the best there is at what we do,” Steelers coach Bill Cowher gushes.

Hey, I hate the guy as much as anyone but I can't stand it when fans won't give credit where credit is due. Did he get lucky when Bledsoe got knocked out and Brady came in? Sure he did but over that time he became one heck of a HEAD COACH. He was already regarded as one of the best coaches in the NFL before that, he just failed as a head coach in Cleveland. Please, don't be like Boston fans who refuse to give Parcells any credit and slam him just because he left. If you don't like the guy, fine but don't say he can't coach because that's just stupid. I'll tell you what, ask Parcells if Belichick can coach. All that crap about how they hate each other but there hanging out in down in Florida together. You know why? Because even after everything that's gone down between the two, they still respect one another and both are great NFL coaches. Period.
 

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belichick is a football geek like peyton manning.honestly belichick is kinda creepy acting.lol.
 

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With Bill Parcell's assistant coaches Belicheck was a genius. Since two of the key coordinators have moved on, the Pats looked pedestrian in the weakest division in football. You're right Bill, it IS the coaching. Unfortunately, they're coaching in Cleveland and Notre Dame. I've never bought into the Belichek God status. He was crap in Cleveland and found succes with assistants that Bill Parcells groomed (and I'm NO Parcells homer here. I'd say the same thing if the Tuna was coaching the 9ers).

If he thinks he can win by cutting loose some of the core players of a championship team, then power to him. It will be fun to watch the facade slowly fade away. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

SS
 

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I always laugh when people say " BB won without Parcells.. Parcells hasnt won without BB ".. HAHAHA.. Parcells won with Crennel (sp?) and Weis.. The same two guys BB has won with. Now that they are gone lets see how this " GOD " does.

Looking at 2001 in it obvious that BB did not want or like Bledsoe because he was Parcells " guy ". Why else would he stick with Brady that year when he was playing pretty poorly?

My bet is they finish 3rd in their division.
 

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Slyster said:
I always laugh when people say " BB won without Parcells.. Parcells hasnt won without BB ".. HAHAHA.. Parcells won with Crennel (sp?) and Weis.. The same two guys BB has won with. Now that they are gone lets see how this " GOD " does.

Looking at 2001 in it obvious that BB did not want or like Bledsoe because he was Parcells " guy ". Why else would he stick with Brady that year when he was playing pretty poorly?

My bet is they finish 3rd in their division.

THANK YOU! No doubt Bledsoe should have been playing, especially in the superbowl that year since he won the AFC Championship in pittsburgh when golden boy got hurt. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
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