Belichik impromptu press conference

[Yakuza Rich]

The league has nothing and the Patriots know it.

It's not that at all.

They have 11 out of 12 footballs severely under-inflated and the Colts footballs were not under-inflated.

So, they do have the smoking gun and it's obvious that Belichick is nervous about it.

The issue here is what does it really matter?

The league had tons of evidence at SpyGate and gave the Patriots a slap on the wrist.

They had virtually nothing against the Saints in BountyGate and gave them an extremely harsh penalty.

I do think Goodell plays favorites in this league, but even if you don't believe that....I think it's safe to say that his punishments he's doled out over the years have not been consistent. Some players get the book thrown at them for 1st time offenses, others get off light.

Part of me wants to believe that the league is smart enough to let the perps keep talking as some have pointed out. But the reality is more likely that the league isn't going to do anything because Robert Kraft won't allow for it.



YR

 

[mahoneybill]

Whether he was lying or not, who knows on everything he said. But he was laying smoke today like a Destroyer hoping to cloud the issue.

I hope him and Brady keep speaking. They are incriminating themselves in the public opinion. No integrity.

SNL does a great skit on the whole topic .... not calling them liars, but skewering them...

 

[Rogah]

It's not that at all.

They have 11 out of 12 footballs severely under-inflated and the Colts footballs were not under-inflated.

Sorry, Charlie, that is not solid evidence of wrong doing. It has been proven scientifically that that could have been the result of natural conditions.

The league had tons of evidence at SpyGate and gave the Patriots a slap on the wrist.

Anyone that considers a loss of a 1st round pick - the toughest punishment ever given to a team - a "slap on the wrist" is simply ignorant of football history.

They had virtually nothing against the Saints in BountyGate and gave them an extremely harsh penalty.

You're comparing apples and oranges. The league came down hard on Bountygate because they were (and still are) terrified of the billions of dollars worth of lawsuits coming at them left and right. They have to deal harshly with any issue impacting player safety or they may someday have to explain in a court of law why they didn't.

For all the non-troversy stirred up by the haters this week, the league will never have to send high ranking executives or the commissioner into a federal court of law to take the stand under oath to discuss the PSI of a game ball with billions of dollars at stake.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

SNL does a great skit on the whole topic .... not calling them liars, but skewering them...

Thats prob a lot closer to the truth than what we've gotten from Bill and Tom.

 

[Staubacher]

Sorry, Charlie, that is not solid evidence of wrong doing. It has been proven scientifically that that could have been the result of natural conditions.

That 12th Patriot football puts the lie to that, unless that magic 12th ball was wearing a sweatshirt and hoodie to keep warm. Not to mention the Colts footballs. Not to mention ALL the footballs for both teams in the second half.

You need a close shave with Occam's razor.

 

[cowboyblue22]

this inflation of the football issue goes to the integrity of the game its an infraction of the rules therefore it is serious something like this will have lots of consequences for the league

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Sorry, Charlie, that is not solid evidence of wrong doing. It has been proven scientifically that that could have been the result of natural conditions.

Not according to Bill Nye.

Anyone that considers a loss of a 1st round pick - the toughest punishment ever given to a team - a "slap on the wrist" is simply ignorant of football history.

There is no precedent of a team caught spying on the other team's sidelines and filming signals and there being questions of them getting into the audio feed.

'Ignorance of football history' doesn't apply here because there is no precedent.

You're comparing apples and oranges. The league came down hard on Bountygate because they were (and still are) terrified of the billions of dollars worth of lawsuits coming at them left and right. They have to deal harshly with any issue impacting player safety or they may someday have to explain in a court of law why they didn't.

It doesn't make a difference because that wasn't my point. My point was based on *your* point of the 'league has got nothing.' They had nothing on the Saints and still gave them a harsher penalty than SpyGate.

So here they have precedent of severely punishing a team that they didn't have any evidence of wrongdoing.

For all the non-troversy stirred up by the haters this week, the league will never have to send high ranking executives or the commissioner into a federal court of law to take the stand under oath to discuss the PSI of a game ball with billions of dollars at stake.

I don't know who is calling for them to go to federal court. But, I'm not one of them.

It's just ridiculous for you to claim that they have no evidence when they clearly do and the real scientists, not some football coach trying to save his hide, say that he's full of baloney. Especially when the Colts' footballs were not under-inflated. It doesn't take a real scientist to figure that out, but if you want a real scientist that doesn't have an agenda...they'll tell you the same thing.






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[Rogah]

Not according to Bill Nye.

It's just ridiculous for you to claim that they have no evidence when they clearly do and the real scientists, not some football coach trying to save his hide, say that he's full of baloney.

Bill Nye a real scientist? Stop it! You're killing me!!!

Especially when the Colts' footballs were not under-inflated. It doesn't take a real scientist to figure that out, but if you want a real scientist that doesn't have an agenda...they'll tell you the same thing.

Oh really? Well some "real scientists" at Headsmart Labs said a 1.95 PSI loss in those weather conditions is perfectly reasonable. They're associated with an institution you've probably never heard of :Carnegie Mellon.

So what was that you were saying about no "real scientist" would conclude a loss of PSI? Oh wait that doesn't fit your agenda so keep believing the funny TV guy.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Bill Nye a real scientist? Stop it! You're killing me!!!

He has a degree in mechanical engineering from Cornell.

Oh really? Well some "real scientists" at Headsmart Labs said a 1.95 PSI loss in those weather conditions is perfectly reasonable. They're associated with an institution you've probably never heard of :Carnegie Mellon.

So what was that you were saying about no "real scientist" would conclude a loss of PSI? Oh wait that doesn't fit your agenda so keep believing the funny TV guy.

Then why did the Colts' footballs not change?

That's where your argument falls apart.

And that's 'evidence' whether you like it or not.

The problem is that the league will virtually do nothing in the end thinking that the same amount of fans will continue to watch football in the end. Ask boxing and MLB how that theory went.





YR

 

[adbutcher]

SNL does a great skit on the whole topic .... not calling them liars, but skewering them...

 

[Doomsay]

Then why did the Colts' footballs not change?

That's where your argument falls apart.







YR

It's elemental. The probability that the 2 football populations would be that uniformly different due to random occurrence is infinitely small.

 

[LandryFan]

It's elemental. The probability that the 2 football populations would be that uniformly different due to random occurrence is infinitely small.

There have been a number contradicting reports on this whole issue. The balls are legal when inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. The Colts hypothetically could have sent theirs to the pregame ref check at the high end (13.5) and NE theirs at the low end (12.5). If each then later deflated 1psi due to outside temps, NE would no longer be in spec but the Colts would be. Now I have no idea if any of what I just said actually took place, but it is possible, I suppose. I haven't read anywhere that the refs ensure that all balls (for both teams) are inflated to the same pressure (13.0 would be ideal) when they do their check, only that they check them to ensure they meet specs (anywhere between 12.5 and 13.5). The hole in what I stated above is that the balls did not lose pressure in the second half, if what I read was accurate. So the next question would be "what was different between the first and second halves?"

 

[cowboyblue22]

It really don't matter because whether they cheated or not they are still going to the superbowl and more than likely will win. Whatever the league finds they will not take their win away so in the end it really don't matter.

 

[LandryFan]

It really don't matter because whether they cheated or not they are still going to the superbowl and more than likely will win. Whatever the league finds they will not take their win away so in the end it really don't matter.

You're right in one sense, but I disagree in another. I think it does matter to the fan bases. Those against the Pats will always put an asterisk beside a Pats SB win, and Pats fans (some, not all), I think, will feel less pride in a win than they otherwise might have without the controversy. Just my .02

 

[Rogah]

He has a degree in mechanical engineering from Cornell.

ooooooooooooo.......... he's got a bachelor's degree.... we're all so impressed!!

 

[khiladi]

ooooooooooooo.......... he's got a bachelor's degree.... we're all so impressed!!

and Tom Healy, the founder of Headmart's lab, was a punter with a bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering from Carnegie Mellon whose currently pursuing his master's.. What's your point?

Who exactly are they?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

ooooooooooooo.......... he's got a bachelor's degree.... we're all so impressed!!

Well, he's a scientist which you claimed he wasn't. He also has a degree from Cornell, an Ivy League school with one of the best engineering departments in the world (I grew up about an hour away so I'm quite familiar with Cornell).

I'm not sure why all of the hostility towards those that question Bill Belichick's integrity.

I couldn't imagine me having such vitriol towards people that question Pete Carroll's integrity.





YR

 

[mahoneybill]

Glad you liked it. Some nice acting by the players on SNL with the facial mannerisms...

 

[Fmart322]

the 2014 New England Patriots will be remembered as the OJ Simpsons / George Zimmerman of the football world. We all know their guilty.

 

[sacase]

ooooooooooooo.......... he's got a bachelor's degree.... we're all so impressed!!

how about this guy who completely blows away that crap about naturally occurring due to temp theory you believe.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/24/deflategate-physicist-discredits-natural-pressure-drop-theories

The second, much more popular theory is that the Patriots’ footballs naturally deflated by two PSI because of the temperature drop — from when the officials took a pregame pressure reading of each ball in their locker room, to halftime, right after the balls had been thrown and lugged around for more than an hour in the chill of a mid-January evening in Massachusetts.
Pressure is directly tied to temperature.
Never mind that the theory would fail to account for why only the Patriots’ footballs experienced such a drop in pressure. The physics don’t add up either, Morris said.
Morris said he has noticed amateur physics sleuths listing smaller temperature ranges to get a two PSI drop. Wrong. They’re forgetting to add the atmospheric pressure to the internal ball pressure before they do the (absolute) temperature calculation.
Morris arrived at his conclusion based on a 30C (86F) refs locker-room temperature, a 0C (32F) field temperature and 13 PSI initial pressure-gauge reading. Only such a wide temperature difference yields as much as a two PSI pressure drop, he said.
In reality, however, the officials’ locker room more likely was at a regular room temperature. If even significantly above (let’s say 24C, or 75F), the theory crumbles because the game-time temperature was far above 0C last Sunday: 11C (51F).
That’s a drop of only 13C (24F), far short of what Morris said would be necessary for a two PSI natural deflation.
“It would be hard to believe that you could get a 30-degree temperature change,” he said. “That ball would be so toasty it would be like it had been immersed in a hot bath.”