Believe it or not, I saw a lot of positives against Miami!

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I'm current in the enemies territory, in the Philly suburbs visiting my wife's family. Actually am going to the Eagle/Cardinal game on New Year's Eve.

I know we are all disappointed in last week's loss to Miami, but I came away with several positives:

-The Defense held up against the run and all that pre-snap motion. Their HC was the running game coordinator for the 49ers two years ago, where the 49ers run a very similar, outside zone scheme. Playing Parsons off the ball against the run, was a smart decision.

-We saw Dan Quinn actually playing a ton of zone coverage. You got to be able to give teams different looks or it's very easy to game plan against. The Dolphins only TD, exactly was against man coverage. They took away the big play and forced the Dolphins to drive the entire field.

-Once again Dak struggled against Fangio's scheme for 2 full quarters, but he did keep on fighting and actually lead the team from a 9 point deficeit. Fangio changes his coverages after the snap, takes away the middle of the field and dares the offense to run against light boxes. If the Cowboys couldn't run the football, they had to attack the outside corners, but Miami has great ones. Miami's D was actaully giving up less then 15 points a game once Ramsey returned, Cowboys scored 20. Dak did not turnover the football facing 8 men coverages for the majority of the game.

-Cowboys went against a legitimate SB Contender that needed to win at full strength in their home park and they just lost by 2 points. Gives them confidence they can play against anyone on the road. Clean up the penalties and they will beat these elite teams on the road.
If you have a bulletproof vest better wear it. The media talks about how terrible the fans are in the stadium, but in reality the dangerous part about Philly is getting inside the stadium, or even getting to the stadium. Some will dispute that, but it's not my experience. I go to 1 game a year when we play them and don't have real problems with the fans in the stadium, but you get a lot of menacing looks from savory characters in that city. Don't look cross eyed to anyone, don't argue with anyone, and it helps to be polite and friendly. Definitely don't take bait, and fight with people outside the stadium.
 

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Luepke fumbled, is what happened.

Maybe he missed a call, but there is no movement anywhere else that would suggest any type of read-option or play action.
Of course, the ball hit the ground. But my point was that Luepke never acted like he lost the ball. Usually one a fumble the RB stops and turns around. He makes an attempt to recover the ball. Luepke kept running as if he still had the ball, or thought he wasn't supposed to get the ball. Maybe if he realized the ball was on the ground, he could have recovered it first and still salvaged the drive.
 

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The only positives that I can come up with after our losses to top tier teams is that the MASH unit for them following their win is lengthy....Tua seems to be huring and Waddle is out for this weekend. Opponents can thank us later
 

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Of course, the ball hit the ground. But my point was that Luepke never acted like he lost the ball. Usually one a fumble the RB stops and turns around. He makes an attempt to recover the ball. Luepke kept running as if he still had the ball, or thought he wasn't supposed to get the ball. Maybe if he realized the ball was on the ground, he could have recovered it first and still salvaged the drive.
Too many unknowns
So far no one on the teams has thrown anyone under the bus
....but some fans sure want to
Some Carpenter effect, maybe some Mendenal virus.

See R.Dowdle unlikely to play....
Does MM give some of load to Luepke
Don’t need Pollard beat up going into playoffs
 

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The game was full of positives for the Cowboys. They only lost because Hunter fumbled the ball at the goal line in the first quarter.
 

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I thought we'd play good against Buffalo and worse against Miami
So I got nothing
 

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you know positivity is not allowed in here lol in short take back that fumble on the first drive which was a very good drive by the way which would have ended in some kind of points and we probably win the game was a bad handoff of a fumble by the full back


Don’t you think where Miami turned it over on downs inside the ten kinda offsets this though from a points standpoint
 

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Usually the moral victory threads immediately come out. Kudos on waiting a bit.
 

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This is the problem with this section of Cowboys fans. There's nothing to be positive about since the end result was another loss, and the Cowboys got beat with their own mistakes.
Luepke doesn't fumble and Dallas probably runs away with it.

Like the first game against Philly, Miami wasn't really the better team.
Delusional. The final score was 20-22 and you think a TD in the first quarter would've resulted in them beating the Dolphins by more? Are you forgetting the missed opportunities by the Dolphins as well?
 

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I was at the Dolphin game. The Cowboys' OL could not control the line of scrimmage and could not open holes for the running game. There also was way too much pressure on Dak in the passing game.
 

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I'm current in the enemies territory, in the Philly suburbs visiting my wife's family. Actually am going to the Eagle/Cardinal game on New Year's Eve.

I know we are all disappointed in last week's loss to Miami, but I came away with several positives:

-The Defense held up against the run and all that pre-snap motion. Their HC was the running game coordinator for the 49ers two years ago, where the 49ers run a very similar, outside zone scheme. Playing Parsons off the ball against the run, was a smart decision.

-We saw Dan Quinn actually playing a ton of zone coverage. You got to be able to give teams different looks or it's very easy to game plan against. The Dolphins only TD, exactly was against man coverage. They took away the big play and forced the Dolphins to drive the entire field.

-Once again Dak struggled against Fangio's scheme for 2 full quarters, but he did keep on fighting and actually lead the team from a 9 point deficeit. Fangio changes his coverages after the snap, takes away the middle of the field and dares the offense to run against light boxes. If the Cowboys couldn't run the football, they had to attack the outside corners, but Miami has great ones. Miami's D was actaully giving up less then 15 points a game once Ramsey returned, Cowboys scored 20. Dak did not turnover the football facing 8 men coverages for the majority of the game.

-Cowboys went against a legitimate SB Contender that needed to win at full strength in their home park and they just lost by 2 points. Gives them confidence they can play against anyone on the road. Clean up the penalties and they will beat these elite teams on the road.
Great Post... :starspin:

Sadly Cowboys 2023 version are front runners. We probably been part of teams or work environments that had similar mentality.

Lockeroom needs a bad guy to call out BS that's tolerated during winning but not when team is losing....
 

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Delusional. The final score was 20-22 and you think a TD in the first quarter would've resulted in them beating the Dolphins by more? Are you forgetting the missed opportunities by the Dolphins as well?
Lol. Their only missed opportunities was their QB being bad - which is true every week. They also got lucky in the kicking game - Sanders was 50% from 50+ entering.

Dallas scores on the first drive and assuming the following plays out the same - they go up 14-3. They run away with it because the defense can simply rush the passer without the threat of a run game.
 

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I was at the Dolphin game. The Cowboys' OL could not control the line of scrimmage and could not open holes for the running game. There also was way too much pressure on Dak in the passing game.
I dont have all-22 and dont really watch tape since I dont know what the factual assignments of players is to make an opinion of a bad play or not...

But if your statement is true...and if Fangio was running a non-vanilla cover 2 zone or whatever he is touted for as troubling QBs the past couple of years...

Did Dak not play decent against the masterminds zone with pressure in his face?

Dak critics major complaint is he cant read zone. Did Dak not go to 2nd or 3rd reads and played it too safe? Better Qbs would not have done that?

Im zeroing in on zone defense and pressure on Dak. If true...Dak seemed to play ok to me. No turnovers. Can someone tell me what Dak was doing that was bad habits?

Im not a Dak homer...I like him...Im just trying to get to the bottom of this reading zone against good teams critique.
 

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I dont have all-22 and dont really watch tape since I dont know what the factual assignments of players is to make an opinion of a bad play or not...

But if your statement is true...and if Fangio was running a non-vanilla cover 2 zone or whatever he is touted for as troubling QBs the past couple of years...

Did Dak not play decent against the masterminds zone with pressure in his face?

Dak critics major complaint is he cant read zone. Did Dak not go to 2nd or 3rd reads and played it too safe? Better Qbs would not have done that?

Im zeroing in on zone defense and pressure on Dak. If true...Dak seemed to play ok to me. No turnovers. Can someone tell me what Dak was doing that was bad habits?

Im not a Dak homer...I like him...Im just trying to get to the bottom of this reading zone against good teams critique.
Dak was fine. Once Miami got the lead, they could simply play pass defense. No QB in the league is going to be much more prolific than Dak was, in that context.

People on this forum like to pretend he can't read zone defenses.
 

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Don’t you think where Miami turned it over on downs inside the ten kinda offsets this though from a points standpoint
there's no such thing to go back in the game and say how things would have worked out I'm just telling you momentum wise we wasted a 15 play drive that should have easily ended in seven points if not three the whole ifs and buts and everything is nice to talk about but I'm just telling you when you're setting the tone of the game you're on the road that's seven points sparks everyone the defense and it puts the doubt in the back of the minds of the other team you see how crazy they win is if they just won the game by stopping that drive because they were being pushed around the entire drive it was a 15 play drive you capped that off with seven points you've now set the tone on the road that this is gonna be a long day for them and that goes a long way in a game on the road against a good team...

I've always been the person saying momentum does not carry game to game it doesn't matter what you do at the end of the year into the playoffs however in a game momentum is very important and establishing and setting the tone is the reason we took the ball you get seven points I believe it changes the whole attitude of the game from both sides...
 

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I'm sorry, there were no positives against Miami. We scored 20 points. We score little to no points against good teams away. Nothing positive about that loss other than we didn't get blown out.
 
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