Ben and Skin discussing trading Dez

iceberg;3809375 said:
it's funny hos how the IGS loves to have the latest shiney object but an investment of time and resources is beyond comprehension.

so dez needs to grow up. most people his age do. will he do it before training camp? doubt it. so the IGS will whine on people don't grow up in time for the sitcom to end.
I've been wanting to reply to this for a while but I did not know exactly how I wanted to say it.

My biggest problem with the media in the DFW area is they are not willing to learn. Steve Dennis is so convinced that he is right about everything that I literally want to laugh in his face.

For instance, in the PC to announce Garrett as the new Head Coach he asked something along the lines of this. "How much convincing did Jerry Jones have to do to get you to take this job?"

If it were not for the qualifying phrase "how much convincing" I doubt it would bother me at all. If he asked, "did Jerry have to convince you?" I never would even flinch. But "how much" indicates that he is absolutely sure that the Head Coach job in Dallas is something no sensible person would want.

That irks me. He'll completely ignore the rumors that Jeff Fisher wanted out in Tennessee to come here if Garrett was not the guy and invent the Dallas job as impossible. It is merely a continuation of his on air calling the team losers in 2009 when Brooking got so pissed at him. Secretly he thinks he has proven Brooking wrong and his own diagnosis correct and eh is going to push it every chance he gets.

Then you get the stuff like these Dez rumors. Let me be real succinct. I seriously doubt that no player in History ever stayed awake for every film session. My gosh, the lights are low and the discussion is often not real exciting. Chances of sleep are high.

Lateness to meetings I have a problem with. But now, we're got media who are searching for former disgruntled players to find things about the team to rip apart. I submit that Patrick Crayton is at best a 3rd party source for this information. But you watch, several media sheep will follow Calvin Watkins' lead and write about this pending issue in Dallas.

To do this they will completely ignore all of positive things said about Dez last year by Kitna, Garrett, Sherman, and others and they will make this a huge deal. Bigger than not carrying pads.

Might someone in the Front Office have said they'd listen to trade offers? Yeah. I would think that is true of any player. Wide awake or sound asleep. But now it's an issue and they will scratch it until it bleeds because the blood, no matter how long they have to scratch, is their instant gratification.

They can then stand back and say, "see, I tried to tell you."
 
Hostile;3809834 said:
I've been wanting to reply to this for a while but I did not know exactly how I wanted to say it.

My biggest problem with the media in the DFW area is they are not willing to learn. Steve Dennis is so convinced that he is right about everything that I literally want to laugh in his face.

For instance, in the PC to announce Garrett as the new Head Coach he asked something along the lines of this. "How much convincing did Jerry Jones have to do to get you to take this job?"

If it were not for the qualifying phrase "how much convincing" I doubt it would bother me at all. If he asked, "did Jerry have to convince you?" I never would even flinch. But "how much" indicates that he is absolutely sure that the Head Coach job in Dallas is something no sensible person would want.

That irks me. He'll completely ignore the rumors that Jeff Fisher wanted out in Tennessee to come here if Garrett was not the guy and invent the Dallas job as impossible. It is merely a continuation of his on air calling the team losers in 2009 when Brooking got so pissed at him. Secretly he thinks he has proven Brooking wrong and his own diagnosis correct and eh is going to push it every chance he gets.

Then you get the stuff like these Dez rumors. Let me be real succinct. I seriously doubt that no player in History ever stayed awake for every film session. My gosh, the lights are low and the discussion is often not real exciting. Chances of sleep are high.

Lateness to meetings I have a problem with. But now, we're got media who are searching for former disgruntled players to find things about the team to rip apart. I submit that Patrick Crayton is at best a 3rd party source for this information. But you watch, several media sheep will follow Calvin Watkins' lead and write about this pending issue in Dallas.

To do this they will completely ignore all of positive things said about Dez last year by Kitna, Garrett, Sherman, and others and they will make this a huge deal. Bigger than not carrying pads.

Might someone in the Front Office have said they'd listen to trade offers? Yeah. I would think that is true of any player. Wide awake or sound asleep. But now it's an issue and they will scratch it until it bleeds because the blood, no matter how long they have to scratch, is their instant gratification.

They can then stand back and say, "see, I tried to tell you."

a good story doesn't sell.

controversy does.

that's all our "media" is anymore and unfortunately the #'s bear it out as what people want too.
 
Go Big D!;3809726 said:
and the comments below that article prove that many fans are incapable of having a thought of their own and need the media to think for them.

This whole thing started with Watkins!
Really people...you're gonna hang your hat on Watkins!? :laugh2:

When a more credible journalist is chirping the same tune, then I'll start to listen.


I hear ya, but this one appears to be a Bryan Broaddus special via ben n skin.
 
Listening to offers and actually trading are two different things, and im sure that the offer would be followed by 2 minutes of laughter and them the sound of the phone hanging up.
 
I hear ya, but this one appears to be a Bryan Broaddus special via ben n skin.

So is Watkins' source, "in the front office", Broadus?
That would certainly explain a lot, heh!
 
I wouldn't trade Dez Bryant. I know Dallas could use a top DE and top OT in this draft, but teams fear Dez Bryant. Dallas was easier to defend after he got hurt. His ceiling is too high. Plus, you would have to use one of the acquired top picks to pick Julio Jones to replace Bryant. Jones is really good, but he isn't as talented as Bryant. Plus, Bryant is faster. I think Bryant will be better than Tony Romo at his position in the short run. Bryant can be a top 5 WR in the NFL and could help keep Romo in the top 10 QBs. Thinking Roy E. Williams is a quality number 2 is pipe dream, imo.

Drafting Bryant at 25 was a big get and steal, and it is way too early to just let him go. The Patriots could have used him in their playoff loss. Garrett knows what he is doing in regards to Ray Sherman, imo. Give Garrett a chance to put his true mark on this team. If I was Tashard Choice and Roy E. Williams, I would be a little worried, JMO.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3807359 said:
I don't know if it would take the server going down. Reality to shut the place down for a change up or tweak some things...but it just might take something that causes the forum to be down for a day just to get...

A day on the forum without the stupid.

It would be so nice to go just one day without a multitude of stupid. Whether it be some random fan with some flights of fancy with a madden trade. A fan going on a look at me bender saying this or that about a player. Or someone from the media or radio show going on about things.

Just one day would be nice. However unless the board goes down for some reason, I guess it is an impossible goal.
What's with you guy...? Do you not understand people have diffrent opinions than you. Lighten up a little huh..? GEEZ. ;<(
 
iceberg;3809917 said:
a good story doesn't sell.

controversy does.

that's all our "media" is anymore and unfortunately the #'s bear it out as what people want too.
Precisely.

Makes me think Henley was a prophet when he wrote the song Dirty Laundry.
 
Go Big D!;3809939 said:
So is Watkins' source, "in the front office", Broadus?
That would certainly explain a lot, heh!


no broaddus started this whole stupid thing.

I just flipped on 103.3 and they are still talking about this.

They are so devoid of being interesting that they have been talking about this repeatedly.

I love how this gets treated like a real story. Amazing.

I just heard ian fitzsimmons say well we know he should be traded but he wont because only jerry is stupid enough to give up a 1 and 3 for a wr.

Horrible station.
 
theebs;3810038 said:
no broaddus started this whole stupid thing.

I just flipped on 103.3 and they are still talking about this.

They are so devoid of being interesting that they have been talking about this repeatedly.

I love how this gets treated like a real story. Amazing.

I just heard ian fitzsimmons say well we know he should be traded but he wont because only jerry is stupid enough to give up a 1 and 3 for a wr.

Horrible station.

Oh, I understand that this started with Broaddus but Watkins claimed he was told this as well by his "source in the front office".

Truth be told, I expect this from Watkins but am really disappointed that Brouddus stooped this low. I used to really enjoy his insight. But we don't need another story making mediot in Dallas. We have enough.
 

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