Ben Johnson offense scheme

[Sarge]

Pretty big assumption that Johnson would even WANT to come here.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Lets do it. Look at this offensive scheme. And ya'll say scheme doesn't matter? Our scheme looks like nothing compared to this.


But knowing Jerry he will convince to himself that Kellen Moore is close to Ben Johnson but is a lot cheaper and will allow Jerry to do what Jerry thinks he does best. EVERYTHING.

he will not come to dallas. he passed on washington last year because he wasn't aligned with ownership. he wants to go to a place where he is aligned with GM and owner and Dallas is bottom of the list. plus he will cost too much and Jerry won't spend the money.

 

[dreghorn2]

By not interviewing Johnson or Glenn in the first negotiating window, while still holding McCarthy in limbo, the Cowboys can now longer speak to them until after their team is eliminated.

Teams that did, can speak to them after Championship weekend.

Think the Cowboys will wait to talk with them until after the Super Bowl, i doubt it, and they would have a lot of ground to make up after multiple other teams had already had at least two interview sessions.

You can count those two as off the list.

 

[ksadler1]

Nah I’m sayin he’s gonna do something to embarrass us like have a quote saying he would never take out Job or he be like do an interview and then leak that Jerry crapped his pants

My "boyscout" comment was geared more towards the players, not coaches. And honestly, if Jerry isn't embarrassed by now, nothing is going to embarrass him.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

He's not coming to this dumpster fire. This is a job of last resort.

 

[charron]

If Ben can't pick his own staff he wouldn't make that much of a difference. They can not just hire a head coach they need to revamp most of the assistants to align with that coach and the philosophy he brings in.

 

[Shannon1]

he will not come to dallas. he passed on washington last year because he wasn't aligned with ownership. he wants to go to a place where he is aligned with GM and owner and Dallas is bottom of the list. plus he will cost too much and Jerry won't spend the money.

Where are you getting this information!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Where are you getting this information!

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...-lions-nfl-head-coach-interviews/73910731007/

https://www.si.com/nfl/ben-johnson-criteria-for-potential-coaching-opportunities

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...least-15-million-per-year-to-be-a-head-coach/

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

It’s not the money that would keep him away, Jed would keep him away and he knows the boys organization is ran differently than all the others, there owner loves the spotlight and the first to talk to the press after games and other teams the coach does all the speaking first.

 

[quickccc]

Can Ben scheme? Yes. He also has amazing talent at ALL skill positions oh and a top knotch o-line.

and a top notch OL coach at that ... and how many OL coaches are we gonna keep going thru ?

 

[Havic]

and a top notch OL coach at that ... and how many OL coaches are we gonna keep going thru ?

Not many, I think Mike takes the bears job and brings most of the staff with him there

 

[Kwyn]

There are teams in a much better situation than the cowboys that would get a “no” from Ben Johnson.

Might as well have a thread about how great it would be to get Andy Reid.

 

[Tabascocat]

This is a bad season for Johnson to be a hot commodity. NE is filled with not much left that looks desirable. Every team left looks to be a coach killer except maybe Chicago? I think he has one year left on his contract, might be best to look in 2026…. IDK.

 

[Coogiguy03]

These guys have better players too!!! That's what makes him look good

 

[big dog cowboy]

Might as well have a thread about how great it would be to get Andy Reid.

VERY true.

 

[Creeper]

Ben Johnson's offense would not be successful in Dallas. Look at Detroit's players on offense compared to Dallas. Start with the offensive line. You could stop there but look at RB. The disparity between Detroit and Dallas at RB is enormous. At WRs, the Lions have several good ones. We have CeeDee. Look at TE. They have LaPorta. And look at QB. They have Goff we have Dak. Goff's football IQ is way ahead of Dak no matter what you think of Goff. He see the field better and behind a strong offensive line, he finds the open receivers and get them the ball. He is not great, but he is in key ways better than Dak, especially the Dak of 2024.

Ben Johnson cannot fix what is wrong in Dallas.

 

[CCBoy]

he is priced out ,no way the Jones are paying top dollar for coaches anymore.they are penny pinching everywhere, heck they are not hiring enough assistants and players are complaining.

Sure thing, cut back to fifty cents when real millions are to be made.

 

[CCBoy]

Ben Johnson's offense would not be successful in Dallas. Look at Detroit's players on offense compared to Dallas. Start with the offensive line. You could stop there but look at RB. The disparity between Detroit and Dallas at RB is enormous. At WRs, the Lions have several good ones. We have CeeDee. Look at TE. They have LaPorta. And look at QB. They have Goff we have Dak. Goff's football IQ is way ahead of Dak no matter what you think of Goff. He see the field better and behind a strong offensive line, he finds the open receivers and get them the ball. He is not great, but he is in key ways better than Dak, especially the Dak of 2024.

Ben Johnson cannot fix what is wrong in Dallas.

His strength is creative design and there still is tons of talent...he knows football and would do fine. This isn't King Arthur needing the Knights of the Round Table.

 

[thunderpimp91]

So first off let me say that I think Ben Johnson has done a fantastic job this year, and I'm a fan of his work. His attention to every detail is top level. With that said though I would caution anyone who thinks this guy is creating a plug and play top offense anywhere he goes. A ton of the innovation here is just a result of having great players. There are some exceptions here when we start getting into lateral plays and such which is covered nicely in the posted video. Much of this is just football 101 with excellent players.

Play 1 - Great play design, but also great job by the OL and fantastic throw with anticipation. When Goff decided to throw that football the DB still had a hand on the WR. Their QB plays with anticipation, our QBs this year typically hold on to balls like that and we complain after the fact pointing to a lack of separation.

Play 2 - We're really talking about daggers? Dagger concepts have been ran by every team in the league since the 70s. This is football 101 stuff.

Play 3 - Super simple concept. Excellent execution. This really is where the Lions were so much better than everyone this year, and that is in the play action game. They ran it at the highest rate in the league, but also had the backs and OL to make it a true threat. This is what having a stacked roster does for you, and not every team can duplicate this just by running PA.

Play 4 / 5 / 6 - I'll give a lot of props to Ben Johnson here...leaking and slow releasing your TEs is something everyone does, but they are truly next level here and its because of fearless playcalling. A lot of the leaks they call are not the quickest developing and many cannot be replicated by other teams. Part of this is having a great OL and RBs who can block well, but the overall designs here are just beautiful along with just an extremely high level of detail to them at all levels, and the couple plays shown in the video fully capture this.

Play 7/8/ Im starting to lose my place and hope my numbers are right - Excellent job of true offensive innovation. I have no idea how many times they actually ran these lateral plays but it might be the biggest addition to the league since the back shoulder throw started to pop up 15 years ago or so. Itll be interesting to see if other teams can duplicate these plays. The big issue with these plays is you need both the receiver and the pitch man running wide open for it to have a chance. Many teams struggle to get one man running wide open on a play. Is this more play design or the benefit of having a loaded team that teams are playing deep conservative zones on?

Ben Johnson would be at the top of my choice for HC, but I still think this team would need an upgraded roster on the offensive side of the football to look anywhere near Detroit did in 2024. The more I watch Detroit film the more they sort of look like a better version of the 2016 Cowboys, especially on offense. Similar style, passing concepts aren't anything special, but an excellent run threat and playing off a very high play action % makes it look like these guys are just running wild on the secondary. That offense was so good that year it made Jason Garrett coach of the year. Had they had a veteran QB running it and were another WR deep in the form of Jameson Williams those offenses look very similar.