Best QB option left

[DFWJC]

Facts are Romo will be two years older when this season kicks off.

It really is wishful thinking that they will get 5 elite level years out of Romo.

No.. Three if they're lucky

 

[Romotil45]

Not a good policy? I'm just going with the odds bro. Name me 3 QB's who have played at a high level until they were 41? Not to mention a QB who has a bad back that has had to alter practice schedules etc. I'll wait....

That's fine like I said you are entitled to your opinion. Tell other what their opinions should be not a good policy. I'm always open to friendly debate but I don't tell others they need to come to my realization. I may state facts that support my position to persuade others. What are your facts ? What's odds are you going with exactly ?

 

[Romotil45]

Facts are Romo will be two years older when this season kicks off.

It really is wishful thinking that they will get 5 elite level years out of Romo.

True it has been 2 years since 2014. Wishful thinking how so exactly ? Even after Mannings injury and loss of armstrength he was better than Denvers old savior. Manning was 39 do you think he might have played a few more years if he still had good arm strength ? I think Denver wishes they had him now.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I don't want Dak

 

[jnday]

I'm going back and forth with him and it's not worth it. I mean his username is suggesting Romo's going to play another 9 years.

He is trolling. Don't waste your time.

 

[Romotil45]

Not a good policy? I'm just going with the odds bro. Name me 3 QB's who have played at a high level until they were 41? Not to mention a QB who has a bad back that has had to alter practice schedules etc. I'll wait....

17 NFL QB have played into their 40's. Manning had 2 microdiskectomies and poor arm strength and played until 39. Farce had a very good season at 40. As long as Romo has functional mobility his arm strength the grey matter between his ears and more importantly the desire to play he will be good to go. Farce above should be Farve I hate auto spell check.

 

[Romotil45]

He is trolling. Don't waste your time.

How is friendly debate trolling exactly ?

 

[BubbleScreen]

#4 Joey Bosa Ohio DE Ohio St.
#34 Kendall Fuller CB VT
#67 Sheldon Day DT ND
That fills a lot of holes then...
#101 Christian Hackenberg QB Penn St
#135 C.J. Prosise RB ND
#189 Dadi Nicolas OLB VT
#212 Demarcus Robinson WR Florida
#216 Wayne Lyons CB Michigan
#217 Cassanova Mckinzy ILB Auburn

Not bad, but I think you're drafting another QB high in 17/18. But hey, since this team regularly blows/gives away mid round picks, that 101 is not such a big deal.

 

[Romotil45]

Assuming Goff and Wentz are gone, which is the best option:

1) Lynch at 4
2) Lynch at 15 + Titans 2s (Tunsil)
3) Cook in 2nd
4) Hackenberg in 3rd
5) Dak in 3rd
6) other QB in 4/5/6

2 is hypothetical. The rest seem likely possibilities.

Considering QB only, and that the Titans won't trade, the Cowboys have to go get Lynch at 4. With only 3 elite prospects you have to take Lynch when he's available.

I am intrigued by Lynches size and athleticism. But his wonderlic score concerns me some. This prob why he has slipped in the ratings. Anyone else concerned ?

 

[Romotil45]

Not bad, but I think you're drafting another QB high in 17/18. But hey, since this team regularly blows/gives away mid round picks, that 101 is not such a big deal.

Could be. I would take a QB every year in the 3 or 4 if I had too. If you haven't found your guy by 2019 you then have to think about taking a guy in the first.

 

[KB1122]

I'm aware of the stats regarding mid round QB's. Since I believe Romo is good to go five more years I'm not in hurry. If we don't find the future in the mid rounds by 2018. Then we can start thinking about a first round guy in 2019.

It doesn't work that way. Russell Wilson started day 1. Brady sat one year and was challenging for the starter job in his second. If we take Prescott and if he's going to turn into a great quarterback, he'll be challenging for the starter by the end of year 1, 2 at the latest. If he's still sitting 3 or 4 years from now, he's a lost cause.

 

[Romotil45]

It doesn't work that way. Russell Wilson started day 1. Brady sat one year and was challenging for the starter job in his second. If we take Prescott and if he's going to turn into a great quarterback, he'll be challenging for the starter by the end of year 1, 2 at the latest. If he's still sitting 3 or 4 years from now, he's a lost cause.

I'm just looking for a descent backup that's my first priority. I'm not looking to replace Romo. A guy taken in the 4th could very well be a career backup. I'm not worried about Romo he will be good to go until 40 and perhaps longer if he wanted to. I think you start getting serious about finding a replacement in 2019. Next two QB classes are pretty weak.

 

[gmoney112]

I'm just looking for a descent backup that's my first priority. I'm not looking to replace Romo. A guy taken in the 4th could very well be a career backup. I'm not worried about Romo he will be good to go until 40 and perhaps longer if he wanted to. I think you start getting serious about finding a replacement in 2019. Next two QB classes are pretty weak.

I agree with most of what you've said. I just don't know about Tony "being good" until 40. Elite QB's age better than any position. Manning could have played a few more years at a high level, if not for the neck surgeries. He still had a Manning year just a year ago (They should have let continue on his HGH protocol. I wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually "allowed" at a certain age, when there's more emperical evidence and the NFL realizes they can appeal to the players union AND keep their stars healthy longer.)

Favre was ironman, so that's not really a good example. His body was as tough as his mind, that's not common in the NFL, those guys are big.

If Romo played like Brady I'd say sure. But Romo doesn't play like Brady/Peyton. The best part of Romo's game is that he just seems to make miracles happen. He holds on to the ball longer, often too long to make it happen, but that's his game. When's the last time you saw Brady/Peyton do a sweet spin move out of a blindside rush by the Defensive NFL Player of the year on defense then throw it 50 yards for a TD? Haha, I've never seen it. They get the ball out quick. Brady probably throws the quickest routes in the NFL, or he goes down.

So Tony is going to get hit more. Comes with the territory. Unfortunately, he doesn't come in a Favre titanium casing either. I think he can play 4 more years, but I question his body's ability to keep him on the field. If he misses significant time but played well otherwise is that "good"? And you don't really see 38 year old guys pulling sick juke moves.

I have confidence in him, but it is, admittedly, playing with fire. The sooner you can get a guy in, the better, in my opinion.

 

[Romotil45]

I agree with most of what you've said. I just don't know about Tony "being good" until 40. Elite QB's age better than any position. Manning could have played a few more years at a high level, if not for the neck surgeries. He still had a Manning year just a year ago (They should have let continue on his HGH protocol. I wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually "allowed" at a certain age, when there's more emperical evidence and the NFL realizes they can appeal to the players union AND keep their stars healthy longer.)

Favre was ironman, so that's not really a good example. His body was as tough as his mind, that's not common in the NFL, those guys are big.

If Romo played like Brady I'd say sure. But Romo doesn't play like Brady/Peyton. The best part of Romo's game is that he just seems to make miracles happen. He holds on to the ball longer, often too long to make it happen, but that's his game. When's the last time you saw Brady/Peyton do a sweet spin move out of a blindside rush by the Defensive NFL Player of the year on defense then throw it 50 yards for a TD? Haha, I've never seen it. They get the ball out quick. Brady probably throws the quickest routes in the NFL, or he goes down.

So Tony is going to get hit more. Comes with the territory. Unfortunately, he doesn't come in a Favre titanium casing either. I think he can play 4 more years, but I question his body's ability to keep him on the field. If he misses significant time but played well otherwise is that "good"? And you don't really see 38 year old guys pulling sick juke moves.

I have confidence in him, but it is, admittedly, playing with fire. The sooner you can get a guy in, the better, in my opinion.

For now I continue to see Romo's mobility as a asset an not a liability. I think he sometimes tries to do too much because he knows he didn't have a top ten defense and he feels he needs to score on every possession. However I believe that will change as the defense improves. I believe the plan for 2016 will be similar to 2014 use the running game and use shorter higher percentage throw in a ball control approach to keep 3rd down manageable so he doesn't have to hold the ball too long or be the hero. He can learn to play it safe until its needed in the 4th qrt in a close game. Romo's ok with that because he knows it will extend his career.

 

[9darter]

I really can't see Jerry spending the 4th overall pick on only the third ranked QB, in what would be seen as a reach.

Personally, I still say it's up to the scouts and coaches to get it right with these QBs. If Lynch becomes a good one, he has to be the pick at 4. But I sense that they are not too enamoured with his talents.

 

[egn22]

We have too many defensive needs to take a QB in first three rounds. It will be Hackenberg, Dak or the highest rated other guy in 4th.

It's amazing to me that some are so hell bent on getting a QB early they're ready to reach at 4 for Lynch.
Pass Ramsey pass Bosa pass on Zeke pass on trading back and getting multiple players to get our defensive needs worked out. Nope let's reach for a QB that won't start for another few years

 

[Stash]

That's your opinion which you are entitled to. It's not a good policy to tell people that they need to come to so and so realization. The facts are Romo played well in 2014 after back surgery. Collarbone is no problem bones break it happens.

Apparently, "it happens" again and again.

"The facts" also include the fact that Romo has missed 27 games since becoming the Cowboys' starter. That's 27 games for those of you following along.

Compare that to other franchise quarterbacks. Drew Brees - just two games. Aaron Rodgers - 9 games missed. Tom Brady missed a season with an ACL tear and has been an Iron Man otherwise, missing 1 other game in 2001! And prior to the ACL tear this year, Joe Flacco hadn't missed a single game. Philip Rivers - 0 games.

Even when 'healthy', Romo has been more prone to injury than any of the other franchise quarterbacks in the league, missing far more time than any of the others. And unlike their injuries, involving tendons, Romo's repeatedly breaking bones and permanently damaging his back. The other injuries listed here are 'one and done' types, where the quarterback has never missed time again or been impaired by the original injury.

I love the guy and wish the best for him, and I'd love to see him win a Super Bowl, he's worked his tail off to earn it and the team around him has repeatedly let him down. But, it's certainly in this franchise's best interests to ensure that they have a viable backup plan, both for now and for the future.

 

[Stash]

It's amazing to me that some are so hell bent on getting a QB early they're ready to reach at 4 for Lynch.
Pass Ramsey pass Bosa pass on Zeke pass on trading back and getting multiple players to get our defensive needs worked out. Nope let's reach for a QB that won't start for another few years

Really? Even after seeing two franchises give the better part of two drafts to move up to draft quarterbacks?

And yet "it's amazing" to you?

Who's playing defensive end for this 2016 Super Bowl contender for the first month of the season, if not longer?
Joey Bosa? Even the great pass rushers don't make a huge impact their first year, that's well documented.

Let's face it, this team is in a world of trouble, and there is no 'quick fix' for it. They need to stop putting their fingers in the dike and start building a new one.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Maybe Hogan in the 4th round.

 

[LOBO7]

3RD ROUND / Warming up to this guy.

KEVIN HOGAN, Stanford (6-3, 214, 4.74, 3-4): Posted a 36-10 record, winning three Pacific-12 Conference titles and starting in three Rose Bowls. "He's more ready than Brissett is," one scout said. "He is accurate. He does pretty much everything well. He has a funny release. Doesn't Philip Rivers have a funny release?" His passer rating was 104.2 and his record was 16-6 against AP top 25 opponents. "That (delivery) doesn't bother me," said a second scout. "Sonny Jurgensen had a really weird release. Throws it like Philip Rivers. He's cerebral, smooth." From McLean, Va. "He's your old-time pro QB," said a third scout. "Takes most of his snaps under center. He's good but not anything special." Wonderlic of 38. By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel