Best roster excluding QB?

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What if the Cowboys and Niners were able to clone Mahomes?

Which one would be the best team?

Bonus questions:
You can pick a player at each position from any of these 3 rosters:
Cowboys
KC
Niners

It must be #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2.
- You can't take both Parsons and Bosa.
- If you take Chris Jones you can't have Javon Hargrave.
- The team wil play a "4-3" (4-2-5) defense.

My Answer:
KC: Mahomes, Kelce, maybe Chris Jones.

Cowboys: Tyler Smith

Niners: All other positions.

Reasons:
Bosa mentally better than Parsons.
CeeDee has a loser's mentality.
Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.

Considered DLaw at #2 DE vs KC's or SF's #2 DE but stench of HotBoyz still too strong...

Is Bland better than the other team's #2 CB?
 

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The Cowboys wouldn’t lose to the 49ers three times in a row.. they would have won the last 2 playoff games against them,. Mahomes would have been throwing up Cooper AND CD Lamb.. and 2 of the 3 years Dallas had the top ranked TO defense in the league, meaning more chances for Mahomes to score..
 

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Mahomes prob had to deal with the worst receiving group in the playoffs outside of Kelce, imagine him and CeeDee.

Id trade Parsons for C. Jones, an elite DT is worth more than an elite DE
 

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What if the Cowboys and Niners were able to clone Mahomes?

Which one would be the best team?

Bonus questions:
You can pick a player at each position from any of these 3 rosters:
Cowboys
KC
Niners

It must be #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2.
- You can't take both Parsons and Bosa.
- If you take Chris Jones you can't have Javon Hargrave.
- The team wil play a "4-3" (4-2-5) defense.

My Answer:
KC: Mahomes, Kelce, maybe Chris Jones.

Cowboys: Tyler Smith

Niners: All other positions.

Reasons:
Bosa mentally better than Parsons.
CeeDee has a loser's mentality.
Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.

Considered DLaw at #2 DE vs KC's or SF's #2 DE but stench of HotBoyz still too strong...

Is Bland better than the other team's #2 CB?
Niners by far. better OL. better DL. better LB, better TE, better WR Group. better RB. not even close.
 

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Trent Duffie is an all-pro CB, KC has the best Oline in the nfl if Jason Kelce retires. They would have a lot more players on that conjoined team than just 3.
 

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Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.
Unbelievable that the greatest guard in history can't get selected on the playground. I mean with 136 All Pro selections against like 3 penalties you are just being ridiculous. Just think of all those pancake blocks he's been making these past few years to spring our RB's. Choo Choo!!

/s
 

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I didnt go through each position but I dont see many Id take the cowboys over either of those teams. The niners are head and shoulders above all 3 teams roster wise. They just dont have mahomes.

Some of yall act like the cheifs had garbage on offense they dont. While they dont have CeeDee or some of the niners group they have Kelse and rice isnt no slouch. they had the guy who rogers made a good WR (cant think of his name) but he can play. They had toney and hardman who made some critical drops through the year that got alot of pub but they also made plays (well mahomes made plays)

Both teams running game is better than ours

while our defense created turnovers they were average at stopping the run and undisciplined. Id take either defense over ours and it isnt even close. The niners line is better than ours simply by having trent williams ours is declining but Ill give that the one roster spot where we are competitive
 

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What if the Cowboys and Niners were able to clone Mahomes?

Which one would be the best team?

Bonus questions:
You can pick a player at each position from any of these 3 rosters:
Cowboys
KC
Niners

It must be #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2.
- You can't take both Parsons and Bosa.
- If you take Chris Jones you can't have Javon Hargrave.
- The team wil play a "4-3" (4-2-5) defense.

My Answer:
KC: Mahomes, Kelce, maybe Chris Jones.

Cowboys: Tyler Smith

Niners: All other positions.

Reasons:
Bosa mentally better than Parsons.
CeeDee has a loser's mentality.
Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.

Considered DLaw at #2 DE vs KC's or SF's #2 DE but stench of HotBoyz still too strong...

Is Bland better than the other team's #2 CB?
We are all aware how loaded the 49ers roster truly is, but how long can they keep them altogether, especially when they extend Purdy?
 

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San fran is said to be facing hard times with their cap, this may be our year to be the leader! Knowing us Detriot or Philly will be the new king of the NFC
 

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Mahomes prob had to deal with the worst receiving group in the playoffs outside of Kelce, imagine him and CeeDee.

Id trade Parsons for C. Jones, an elite DT is worth more than an elite DE
You really need to check ages before making such a statement.
 

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What if the Cowboys and Niners were able to clone Mahomes?

Which one would be the best team?

Bonus questions:
You can pick a player at each position from any of these 3 rosters:
Cowboys
KC
Niners

It must be #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2.
- You can't take both Parsons and Bosa.
- If you take Chris Jones you can't have Javon Hargrave.
- The team wil play a "4-3" (4-2-5) defense.

My Answer:
KC: Mahomes, Kelce, maybe Chris Jones.

Cowboys: Tyler Smith

Niners: All other positions.

Reasons:
Bosa mentally better than Parsons.
CeeDee has a loser's mentality.
Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.

Considered DLaw at #2 DE vs KC's or SF's #2 DE but stench of HotBoyz still too strong...

Is Bland better than the other team's #2 CB?
Chiefs had the #2 D in the NFL after the Browns. McDuffie? Nnadi? Justin Reid is the best S on all 3 teams. Karlaftis prolly the best rotational/backup DL on all 3 teams. Creed Humphrey is the best C, and it's not close. Jawaan Taylor is a stud. Thuney the best OG, possibly.
 

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What if the Cowboys and Niners were able to clone Mahomes?

Which one would be the best team?

Bonus questions:
You can pick a player at each position from any of these 3 rosters:
Cowboys
KC
Niners

It must be #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2.
- You can't take both Parsons and Bosa.
- If you take Chris Jones you can't have Javon Hargrave.
- The team wil play a "4-3" (4-2-5) defense.

My Answer:
KC: Mahomes, Kelce, maybe Chris Jones.

Cowboys: Tyler Smith

Niners: All other positions.

Reasons:
Bosa mentally better than Parsons.
CeeDee has a loser's mentality.
Zack Martin too old. Huge decline in 2023.

Considered DLaw at #2 DE vs KC's or SF's #2 DE but stench of HotBoyz still too strong...

Is Bland better than the other team's #2 CB?
Kinda off subject but the decline of Martin is really huge. Any word if was he dealing with any injury, mentally because of the contract stuff or just age. For a guard he’s not that old to have such a sudden decline to me
 

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Kinda off subject but the decline of Martin is really huge. Any word if was he dealing with any injury, mentally because of the contract stuff or just age. For a guard he’s not that old to have such a sudden decline to me
What? Martin is 33, and that's the age at which most players start their decline. Many are pretty much done at that age.
 

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The Niners have the better roster than the cowboys.

If the cowboys had Mahomes. They would have won 2-3 Super Bowl by now with him.
I am going to go out on the limb here and say that there are several teams in the league that you could mke that claim about. id add Reid and kelse also make them formidable.
 
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