Bethea given 1st round tender

[SLATEmosphere]

Okay, here's my thing with this. Alot of people on here want Thomas or Nate Allen in the first round.

Why not just call up the Colts and ask if they would accept our first rounder for your 25 year old playmaking probowl safety.

The fact that the Colts didn't slap a first and third on him is odd. Or why they arn't giving him a long-term extension(they might for all I know)

Colts might say no, but I think it's worth a phone call.

Bethea is a baller and is a proven probowl player.

Thoughts?

 

[JBS]

Okay, here's my thing with this. Alot of people on here want Thomas or Nate Allen in the first round.

Why not just call up the Colts and ask if they would accept our first rounder for your 25 year old playmaking probowl safety.

The fact that the Colts didn't slap a first and third on him is odd. Or why they arn't giving him a long-term extension(they might for all I know)

Colts might say no, but I think it's worth a phone call.

Bethea is a baller and is a proven probowl player.

Thoughts?

I don't think that is how it works..Cowboys talk with Bethea, sign him and if the Colts do not match the Boys offer they take our pick..

This is one player I would consider signing at the expense of our 1st rounder, not sure I would pull the trigger but I would think about it

 

[Stash]

I don't think that is how it works..Cowboys talk with Bathea, sign him and if the Colts do not match the Boys offer they take our pick..

This is one player I would consider signing at the expense of our 1st rounder, not sure I would pull the trigger but I would think about it

I'd do it.

Proven player just entering the prime of his career over an unproven rookie?

Sign me up.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I don't think that is how it works..Cowboys talk with Bathea, sign him and if the Colts do not match the Boys offer they take our pick..

This is one player I would consider signing at the expense of our 1st rounder, not sure I would pull the trigger but I would think about it

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You give him a contract right? and if the Colts don't match that then you have to give a first for Bethea

That's where the "poisen pill" comes from right?

 

[JBS]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You give him a contract right? and if the Colts don't match that then you have to give a first for Bethea

That's where the "poisen pill" comes from right?

exactly..I really like this kid too..thats why it is so tough for me..I think he is better than any safety we can get at 27 for this upcoming season..that is for sure

I was going to start a thread on his 1st round tender too..but didnt get around to it before you made it

 

[SLATEmosphere]

exactly

Then I would extremely consider doing that.

 

[LeonDixson]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You give him a contract right? and if the Colts don't match that then you have to give a first for Bethea

That's where the "poisen pill" comes from right?

The only way we couldn't trade for him, as far as I know, is if he is not currently under contract to the Colts. If his contract has not expired we should be able to trade. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[JBS]

Bethea has been playing that tampa 2 style of zone defense..any worries about that?

 

[Cover 2]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You give him a contract right? and if the Colts don't match that then you have to give a first for Bethea

That's where the "poisen pill" comes from right?

No. A poison pill would be if the contract stated if he plays more than 5 games a year in Indianapolis the whole contract is guaranteed. There are other examples as well. The 1st round pick is just compensation for signing a tendered player.

 

[masomenos]

Bethea has been playing that tampa 2 style of zone defense..any worries about that?

I think he'd just have a slightly larger zone responsibility, probably not a difficult transition.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I was going to start a thread the other day regarding restricted free agents that got relatively low tenders. For instance, Jared Gaither got a 1st round only tender. Would he be worth a shot? Are there other players in the huge RFA pool that you would offer contract hoping the team didn't match?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I was going to start a thread the other day regarding restricted free agents that got relatively low tenders. For instance, Jared Gaither got a 1st round only tender. Would he be worth a shot? Are there other players in the huge RFA pool that you would offer contract hoping the team didn't match?

Yeah, Gaither was an also interesting one.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Bethea has been playing that tampa 2 style of zone defense..any worries about that?

I don't think so. Our safetys play alot of zone already. Of course it might be different, but nothing too drastic.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Yeah, Gaither was an also interesting one.

I thought so too. For a 23 year old LT that gave up 4 fewer sacks, 7 fewer QB hits and 29 fewer QB pressures than Flozell Adams, you'd have to think about it. Of course at that tender, it almost seems like there is a reason Baltimore is baiting another team to offer him a contract, even if it's as simple as negotiating the contract for them.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Pass....we need oline help with that #1 pick more than a safety

 

[dbair1967]

exactly..I really like this kid too..thats why it is so tough for me..I think he is better than any safety we can get at 27 for this upcoming season..that is for sure

I was going to start a thread on his 1st round tender too..but didnt get around to it before you made it

Just becuse the guy might be better than the first rd pick we have right NOW, doesnt make giving up a first rd pick to get him a smart move. Bethea is a decent NFL player, but he has limited upside and is not a ballhawk. You dont give up premium picks for "decent" NFL starters. We have a "decent" NFL starter there now, already under contract. You do a move like that for an obvious upgrade who would be a difference maker. Bethea is not, and never will be a "difference maker"

 

[dbair1967]

I also cant understand the obsession giving up our top draft pick/s for average starters from other teams, especially when you factor in how good we are at drafting lately. Let the scouts do their jobs and we'll be far better off.

You dont improve your team consistently by giving up premium draft picks for average or "decent" starters from other teams. You have to give up the pick/s and alot of money.

 

[masomenos]

I also cant understand the obsession giving up our top draft pick/s for average starters from other teams, especially when you factor in how good we are at drafting lately. Let the scouts do their jobs and we'll be far better off.

You dont improve your team consistently by giving up premium draft picks for average or "decent" starters from other teams. You have to give up the pick/s and alot of money.

I agree with this 100%

To piggyback that, I don't understand the obsession with wanting to trade young talent for other draft picks. People are calling for Bennett, Barber and Choice to be traded for picks. Every effort should be made to keep young talent in house.

Rule #1 - Don't trade potential high reward picks for average starters.

Rule #2 - Don't trade young, in-house talent for unknown picks.

Really, it seems obvious.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Just becuse the guy might be better than the first rd pick we have right NOW, doesnt make giving up a first rd pick to get him a smart move. Bethea is a decent NFL player, but he has limited upside and is not a ballhawk. You dont give up premium picks for "decent" NFL starters. We have a "decent" NFL starter there now, already under contract. You do a move like that for an obvious upgrade who would be a difference maker. Bethea is not, and never will be a "difference maker"

Bethea is an average and decent NFL starter? Wow..cmon man..

 

[dbair1967]

I agree with this 100%

To piggyback that, I don't understand the obsession with wanting to trade young talent for other draft picks. People are calling for Bennett, Barber and Choice to be traded for picks. Every effort should be made to keep young talent in house.

Rule #1 - Don't trade potential high reward picks for average starters.

Rule #2 - Don't trade young, in-house talent for unknown picks.

Really, it seems obvious.

It does, but in here for some reason it isnt.